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Gun Owners May Be In For An ‘Interesting’ Four Years
Ammoland ^ | 7 November, 2012 | Philip Van Cleave

Posted on 11/07/2012 4:12:42 PM PST by marktwain

Covington VA --(Ammoland.com)- With the elections over now, gun owners are heading into what could be troubled waters.

I don’t have a crystal ball, so were we are headed I can’t say for certain.

However, based on the Obama Administration’s past performance and President Obama’s statements made during the debates, I will point out some of my concerns.

FUTURE FOR FEDERAL GUN-CONTROL **LAWS** First, with the Republicans maintaining control of the House and enough of the Senate to prevent things being ramrodded through, I don’t see gun control, including an “assault weapon” ban, making it into law during the next two years.

(There will be another election in two years that could change things, so that is as far as one can look for now).

That is good news for gun owners because during the debates with Romney, President Obama hinted at wanting to do something with “assault weapons.” Obama also brought up “inexpensive handguns,” while speaking about the very high murder rate in America’s Gun-Control Heaven, Chicago.

I will not be surprised if Obama now starts to talk about gun control with every shooting that gets national attention. He also has Chicago’s crime rate as an excuse to bring the subject up regularly.

While I think Congress will not vote for new gun control laws, we will need to keep a very, very close eye on Congress nonetheless.

FUTURE FOR MORE FEDERAL GUN CONTROL THROUGH OTHER MEANS One of the biggest threats for more gun control would be items that “fall under the radar,” which is what Obama told the Brady Campaign he was working on last year. Here is a list of things that the President could do without needing approval from Congress:

* Use BATFE and the Justice Department to run more staged projects like “Fast and Furious,” that make it look like lax gun control laws in the U.S. are causing mayhem and then taking “actions” to “fix” the problem. Most of the media would be a willing accomplice in such an endeavor as they were with Fast and Furious.

* Use BATFE to ban a variety of guns from import by making sure they don’t fit a changing “sporting requirement” standard, with AKs being the first to go

* Use BATFE to require reporting of sales of certain firearms by gun stores, a de facto registration

* Use BATFE to make certain firearms into Class III weapons that require a tax stamp and registration – for example shotguns that only have a pistol-grip for a stock

* Use BATFE to block import of military surplus ammunition

* Sign various U.N. treaties that affect our right to keep and bear arms. We will need the Senate (and maybe the courts) to block them

GUN CONTROL THROUGH THE SUPREME COURT AND LOWER COURTS Another danger is that there will be more Supreme Court appointments. Two anti-rights judges were appointed during Obama’s last term – Judge Kagan and the self-described “wise latina” Judge Sotomayor. There is only a one-vote pro-rights margin currently, and that could be wiped out easily. Don’t count on the Senate to save the day – they didn’t with the last two appointments.

As more and more appointments are made to lower courts, I don’t expect them to be pro-rights, either. The antis will be using courts more and more often to get what they can’t get through the Legislative branch.

About: Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc. (VCDL). VCDL is an all-volunteer, non-partisan grassroots organization dedicated to defending the human rights of all Virginians. The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is a fundamental human right. Visit: www.vcdl.org


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2ndterm; banglist; constitution; guncontrol
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To: wastedyears
I'm simply proposing some way for states to get around the Feds, and I think having them start to organize their militias at the moment is probably a good idea.

If there is a better and more effective way than this to get around the BATFE and the FFL requirement, let me know.

41 posted on 11/08/2012 11:58:14 AM PST by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: ctdonath2
The background check requirement can be defeated by having a state count a renewed DL as a background check.

The real issue, as you noted, is the FFL problem and interstate shipment of ammo and firearms.

I think the only legal solution to that issue is having the states start creating a semi-organized militia-- if you have the equivalent of CCW training, you can get what you want from a state armorer.

The state buys the firearms and sells them to you as a militia member, possibly using existing FFL holders as the base of armorers.

Of course, when the BATFE swoops in they'll have to be stopped by state or local law enforcement. Or the local militia.

42 posted on 11/08/2012 12:06:54 PM PST by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: pierrem15

Texas could secede. We have better technology than the civil war era. The message WILL get out.


43 posted on 11/08/2012 1:22:21 PM PST by wastedyears (I don't want to live on this planet anymore.)
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To: pierrem15

Better on that: the state can then authorize members to buy new (yes, post-’86) machine guns for themselves. It’s a loophole in 922(o).

(I have a theory some very high politicians own, themselves, new machine guns. It’s legal with the right connections, which they keep very quiet.)


44 posted on 11/08/2012 3:36:46 PM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: ctdonath2
Better on that: the state can then authorize members to buy new (yes, post-’86) machine guns for themselves. It’s a loophole in 922(o).

Yep-- any official member of a state militia can be equipped with automatic weapons.

45 posted on 11/08/2012 6:50:41 PM PST by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: paulcissa; GeronL; SunkenCiv; Lazamataz; TheOldLady; Daffynition; null and void; xzins; ...
Shoot the blue helmets first.

Shoot the blue helmets. I didn't vote for Romney.

I sure dinna vote for the halfrican.

My son did an incredibly stupid thing on Tuesday night. So yesterday wasn't good.

Today we got word my wifes father died. She is already fighting with the state, unemployment, and getting her (God let it be) new business license. And my son. And me. (we're broke)

So my SIL gets word of the FIL's death and heads for the hunting camp where my BIL is. Rolls her truck and dies. 2 dead today. Yay for us.

Aren't ya proud of me Mod? I got this whole thing in without too much fuss. Must be the new me.

46 posted on 11/08/2012 7:22:12 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: bigheadfred

Damn.


47 posted on 11/08/2012 7:24:45 PM PST by null and void (Day 1388 of the Obama hostage crisis - Barack Hussein Obama an enemy BOTH foreign AND domestic)
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To: driftdiver

I always wanted a 22 pistol and Academy has the Sig Sauer “non-threaded” for 329.00 and the “threaded” for 369.00 or so.

Probably within the next 2 weeks.


48 posted on 11/08/2012 7:30:04 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: jaz.357

Interesting that you post that image considering it was Charlton Heston himself that helped get passed the 1968 Gun Control Act that forbis under 21 getting handguns, outlawed interstate gun sales, mail order gun sales, etc. Don’t take my word for it; google Heston and the 1968 GCA along with the NRA. They got it passed but haven’t done a thing to get it repealed.


49 posted on 11/08/2012 7:31:45 PM PST by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: bigheadfred

Oh my, sorry to hear that.


50 posted on 11/08/2012 7:36:16 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: bigheadfred

Sounds like you need a Greek chorus.


51 posted on 11/08/2012 8:29:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: pierrem15

Unofficial even. Need only a government agent give approval.


52 posted on 11/08/2012 9:05:01 PM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: bigheadfred

and we thought our week was bad.

Oh wow, I don’t know how but I certainly hope you and yours can find some peace and comfort after this/these tragedies


53 posted on 11/09/2012 6:46:17 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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