Skip to comments.Conservatives who didn't vote? (Vanity)
Posted on 11/08/2012 8:32:03 AM PST by Al Gore Vidal
There are way too many whose pastors say that voting for anyone but a Christian is not Christian. We are NOT voting for a national pastor, so this is LAME! We ARE voting to continue in a Constitutional government instead of tyranny. Thanks to all who are too narrow of sight to see that America’s future depends on a free society. I guess when they start rounding us all up for the concentration camps they’l realize, but too late. I am ANGRY. Stupid people. Cannot think for themselves, but follow a warped “theology” that doesn’t hold up in the True LIGHT of Scripture. You cannot bend Scripture to hold to every form of government. We do not have a theocracy. Our Constitution was based on Biblical principles. But we were not given a theocracy. but a civilian government. The Scriptures were to inform the people for life and relations with one another and God. They do not tell us how to vote, other than to uphold men and women who live morally and uphold moral principles. I just want to cry! But the worst is their smugness. They think they are superior. Pride cometh before a fall, but we wil ALL participate in your consequences.
Go back into the history of threads here, also the Romney Files that were posted by Robinson for months. Votes for Romney, even against Obama were discouraged and a lot of freepers were banned for disagreeing with that tactic.
I’m not complaining, just noting this in response to your post. I suspect that up to 3 million less votes for Romney versus McCain in 2008, had to do with freeper activity, he’s a Mormon, and, yes, he switched policies, etc. All valid issues at some level, but they all ended up producing 4 more years of Obama and a liberal Supreme Court is on the way.
It’s almost unbelievable how many “conservatives” are willing to let the USA get raped for 4 more years because Romney wasn’t conservative enough. They were given the choice between brain cancer and and a head cold, but apparently were too naive to tell the difference. We could have started the process of reversing some of the damage we’ve incurred under Obama but these people just didn’t understand that sometimes you have to play defense and limit the damage when the only other option is full destruction ahead. Their conviction ate their common sense.
Well how backward thinking is that? I don’t think Romney is conservative enough, so I won’t vote, thus allowing the other guy to accumulate votes.
If that is the reason why people didn’t vote, then they deserve what they got and shouldn’t be allowed to vote in the first place.
And that number includes black folks who say they’re Evangelicals make up about a third of the black population? If not, then the reality is that about 50% of Evangelicals voted for each candidate proving that Evangelicals as a whole don’t put their theology first any more than any other group.
And one other key issue that hurt Romney in the Social Values category was choosing Ryan as VP.
I give Ryan credit for trying to balance the budget. But he failed to recognize that the Budget reflects a seriously impaired economy. Instead of putting people back to work, he went after the safety nets and entitlements.
I want a fiscally responsible government but not one that unwisely drops the import tariffs our founding father’s had in place and then kicks people when they are out of work as a result. Not this way.
How we treat the poor is near and dear to God’s heart. Scripture repeatedly says He watches that. I’m all for eliminating fraud and putting programs on sound footings, but arbitrary cuts and without addressing the economy. Not for me.
Romneys strategy was heavily weighted on getting a huge number
of moderates and independents on both sides. He trashed conserative
candidates during the primaries, but then treated Obama with kid gloves. I am a conservative and I voted for Romney.
Howevr, He failed with his strategy to win without conservative voters.
My suggestion to you is to address your disappointment to the moderates and independents on both sides who did not turn out in
the numbers his campaign expected.
Pick a different strategy or a different type of candidate next time.
Just a quick note to all those that told me if I vote third party I am throwing my vote away...
I voted for rinoromney in spite of myself.. and that was throwing my vote away!!!
my protest vote for a third party would have had a more far reaching message, especially if all on here that KNEW what a fraud rinoromney was stuck to our guns and voted third party..
I am done wasting my vote.... no more moderate or liberal pubs get my vote, EVER...
Here in TN, I did not sit out.
Romney handily carried the state. But I did NOT vote for him.
There was essentially no choice for me to choose from. I told the RNC, when Romney ‘clinched’ the nomination, that he would not have my vote. That he was nothing but Obama-lite. That he was a pro-abort, pro-gay-agenda socialist that happened to have an “R” by his name. Somehow that was supposed to make him ‘palatable’ enough to cast a vote for.
Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.
I told the RNC that if they wanted this conservatives vote, then they would have to run a conservative candidate. Period.
I told them that if they continued their drift to the left, that soon enough that GOP would become so isolated as to be irrelevant.
Seems like I may have been a trifle right.
Someone needs to do some SERIOUS research into WHY so many Repubs did not vote......
Those who didn’t vote at all because Romney was too liberal are like ones who would rather be executed than suffer a few lashes of the whip.....essentially, by not voting they did vote: for the destruction of our nation.
There will be no turning back from the results of:
* new Marxist Supreme Court judges
* Obamacare sealed for perpetuity - or until the nation collapses
* the financial collapse of the dollar and then the nation
Anyone who didn’t vote for Romney is directly responsible for the horrific consequences of four more years of unbridled Obama socialism/fascism. Pro-lifers who didn’t vote just got another four years of an openly avowed baby killing President. Same goes for guns. So, I agree with your post!
Anyone who couldn’t see that Romney would have been vastly different and better than Obama is also a misguided fool.
People who want to sit in a “conservative” ivory tower had better wake up.
My goal is always to get a candidate as conservative as possible elected.
People forget that other people in the country have different opinions than we do. We need to get them to come our way as much as possible. If we insist in purity at the top of the ticket; we become just a cute, irrelevant sideshow.
He does, but he also doesn't expect government to do it. Read John 21:15-18 and observe carefully to whom Jesus is speaking. It's not Pontius Pilate.
“Whether he won or lost didnt matter much to me - as nothing much would change over the next four years, no matter who won the White House.”
You must have overlooked the Supreme Court appointees, i.e., Eric Holder and the other Socialists/Marxists that 0bama will put in there for the next 2 generations.
BUT you sure made your point and you taught the GOP a lesson!
Thanks for nothing.
You can take a number and get in line behind the Marxists and rest of those who want to take the heads of Conservative Christians who vote based on their faith and principles.
The abject hatred and loathing I am reading here of faith-driven biblical Christians because their principles dictate their actions, is literally prophetic.
God’s judgment is on the nation - and deservedly so. Lukewarm Christianity lost us the culture - and as a direct result of compromising with sin - we lost the country.
Welcome to the new normal. Just like the period of the Judges in ancient Israel. The nation has rejected God. We’re not a theocracy, but now it is considered evil if a person is governed by God and refuses to compromise his values for expedience. Read Lamentations and comprehend what we have rightly earned for ourselves.
If not - if spittle and spew of hatred and rage against Conservative Christians keeps you warm at night - then join your comrades on the Left plotting the ouster and criminalization of the faith, and I’m sure you will feel right at home.
Admin Mod.....please remove “gop” from goldstategop’s name. /sarc
Jer 22:15 Shalt thou reign, because thou closest [thyself] in cedar? did not thy father eat and drink, and do judgment and justice, [and] then [it was] well with him?Jer 22:16 He judged the cause of the poor and needy; then [it was] well [with him: was] not this to know me? saith the LORD.
The possibility of the shakeout of fawning elements in the politcal structure will come about quicker with unbridled socialist/corporatist leverage. Had Romney been elected this would have slowed, and much mischief could have resulted behind the scenes.
Compromise, abdication, and unstatesmanlike conduct will be measured now, with the higher level of electorate awareness, and galvanize those who desire better.
I am of the opinion that the purpose of God, to become Sovereign in the affairs of men through Christ, cannot be averted, and this is all precursory to His Advent. I will not be at all surprised should things not return to normalcy, as that would prevent the ushering in of this longed-for event.
For those ignorant of God’s plan to prove man incapable of ruling himself, or others, without His influence and Son, politics and voting will remain a false hope and a temporary panacea for their mortal disconnect. History has proven this hopeless endeavor never fails to fail.
Given the choice between Romneycare and Obamacare that didn’t really seem to be much of a choice. Pragmatism says that second midterm is generally a bloodbath for the party of the sitting president, and sitting VPs tend to get the nomination but don’t win the election. Better in the long run to strengthen GOP control of the House, gain control of the Senate, and hope an actual conservative gets the GOP nod in 2016.
Like Romney who wrote Romneycare and who's father said we should all listen to Alinsky, wouldn't have been 4 more years of socialism/fascism??? It would have just been GOP labeled.
And read WND's article on Romney being a weathervane on abortion. Romney wasn't any more likely than Obama to change things on abortion.
And did you notice the gun taxes that Romney put in place when he was Gov of Massachusetts?
Given a choice between GOP liberalism and Democrat liberalism, I'll choose third party thank you.
IF they sat it out, they will pay, just like those of us that stood in line. The figures pretty much show 14% of Repubs didn’t vote. My biggest disappointment is the Tea Party which has done NOTHING since the 2008 win. That alone should have made Obama lose ... but it didn’t happen. The Tea Party is Dead.
The history of the early church is replete with the members of the church providing individual relief themselves. Whether government has a role in this or not is a subject for debate, but the command to 'feed my sheep' was given to Peter and Acts 4:32-37 specifically names the members of the church as the provider of the means to help the needy.
By the way ... this is very well said.
Pretty much with you except for this:
“Mitt Happens is a genuinely nice guy, but nice doesnt win elections and he didnt excite me.”
Beg to differ with you there. He is not a nice guy. He viciously destroyed better people in the primaries, then went from a Doberman Pinscher in the primaries to a Lhasa Apso in the general.
According to some apologists while he was governor he worked hard “within his church” to discourage abortions “within his church”, and was very devoted to this cause. This is at the same time he was enabling and subsidizing it amongst the “gentiles”. A bit of a Margaret Sanger thing going on there, and proves that he knows the practice is vile. To encourage your group to procreate to the limits at the same time you are encouraging -all- others to chop up their posterity and run them down the sink is not a nice guy. Rinse and repeat this for a few generations and look at the demographics. There is a consistency there, and it is an ugly consistency.
Romney is an unctuous facade. Behind the facade is a pure void. Is Obama worse? Perhaps, but he is less competent and is the enemy at the gate instead of the enemy within our camp. It will be easier to recognize and neutralize his evils than Romney’s.
This election was lost in the summer, not this week.
The party doesn’t GIVE the nominee. Voters in the primaries select the nominee. Maybe by living in an echo chamber, we’re not aware of our actual minority status as conservatives.
I see the Biden free gubmint goodies ticket winning 99 times out of 100. Biden is an idiot and won't even get the Democrat nomination. If he did he would be slaughtered in the general election.
People like Obama. I don't get it, but they do. They see him as "cool". As one of them. The MSM helps to build this persona, and the idiots in this country (and there are quite a few) eat it up.
Romney was a terrible candidate who had a decent October. He was boring and had the personality of a card board cut out. He also ran a very traditional campaign. He was not cool. Most people in this country are politically illiterate. They want cool.
2016 is a different story, and if this economy falls back into recession the Dem candidate is toast. Remeber, Obama can not run again and Biden is simply not cool!!
“I hated Romney in the primaries, but voted for him with enthusiasm.
Yet I wonder if there werent some evangelicals who had little enthusiasm for the choice between the Mormon and the Moron, and stayed home.”
This is exactly where I was — despised Romney in the primaries, but I really grew to like and admire him, and had no problem whatsoever voting for him. I had thought that the evolution of my views was common among other Christian conservatives, but I guess I was wrong.
And I do believe the Mormon thing had a lot to do with so many Evangelicals staying home. How else can we explain him getting 2 million LESS votes than McCain. The McCain campaign barely had a pulse until Sarah Palin, and McCain did absolutely ZERO outreach to Evangelicals, yet it seems that more of them voted for McCain.
I know 90% of the reason they voted for him had to be Sarah Palin, but could she alone have accounted for getting that many million more votes? Could be, but I have to think the Mormon issue was the primary driver in depressing turnout.
Roberts (republican nominee) sealed Obamacare. So much for the argument we elect Republicans and the court will be saved. Snowe could be argued to have even sealed it when she voted it out of committee giving democrats (they thought at the time) cover.
Romney wasn’t going to do a damn thing to drag us away from the fiscal cliff. He made his intention well known by stilfing Ryan on the campaign trail. he made his choice clear when he mediscared in the Republican primary to political advantage.
So yeah...not feeling the guilt trip. Basically all I hear when you guys parrot these lines is that you are either partisan hacks or bought into what those hacks sale to get a few people to the polls every four years. Tired of being treated like garbage by the party, looked down upon and ignored. republicans are just as culpable for this nation’s mess as Democrats. Now please...show me there is a good faith effort to change. Start with DeMint being elected Minority leader with McConnell being booted. Oh? Hasn’t happened yet? Guess it will anyday now right...After all...they’ve only lost several cycles with him at the helm he must be leaving soon...
This is sheer sour grapes.
Unless you can show me vast numbers of ballots with republican representatives and write-ins or blanks for president, then I don't believe this meme. The fact is, every year 2.5 million people die. Over 4 years thats 10 million people. We need to be replacing our departed conservatives with new conservatives. That means converting young democrats who come out of college and can't get jobs. That means converting young men and women who start working and realize that much of their effort is taken from them and given to much less deserving. We need to offer freedom over free stuff. And it's a tough sale.
Well said Sir!
it’s the second time I’ve written that, or something like it, in these threads. No one every even tries to come back at me. I think they know I have them.
Well, I’ll tell you and your kind this - I AGREE with you that Christian Conservatives should not call themselves Republicans.
I’ve read enough on this board in the last two days to recognize Christian Conservatives/Evangelicals and those who put faith and the bible as the compass for their actions - are not welcome in the GOP.
So if it makes you feel better to shout that Principled Conservative Christians are to blame for Obama’s permanence in power, have at it.
Christians who live their faith daily rather than visit it once a week or twice a year do not belong in the GOP. They do not want us, and we no longer support them. It’s time for Christians to move on.
The GOP is all yours. So good luck trying to woo Democrats and moderates with your compromised acceptance of homos, illegals, and abortion to your banner.
We’ll stand on principles and faith - even if it means we are the only ones left standing. If the nation burns to the ground as a result of that - it isn’t worth saving. There are things more eternal at stake than selling your faith out for 30 pieces of silver promises.
I’m permanently finished with the GOP and will only vote Conservative from here on out. Exactly what I did on Tuesday.
Get over it.
You can’t keep voting for the lessor of two evils. You have to draw a line somewhere on what is acceptable, and what is not. Especially when it comes to Abortion, and homosexuality. And to a lessor extent when your better choice is a socialist. Pay no attention to what he tried to deceive you into thinking he was. Pay attention to what he has already proven to be. And I never heard that he got down on his knees and cried that he had seen the light. Otherwise it might be different.
Your argument is tested and proven to be a lie. It does not lead to any kind of awakening for the country. The country continues to slide. Just as it did under Bush. If people had taken a stand then. We would have got Gore, But we would have never ended up with Obama.
The elite play you. The left plays you into giving up your values piece by piece. They sit in rooms and actually plan how to wear you down, and to change you and make you conform to their whims. Gramsci was one of the first to devise such a great plan to take out the west, and his plan worked.
Think of your self as a bouncing Ball. You bounce so high in all your goodness. They get you to compromise. Then you don’t bounce so high. Then they get you to compromise again. You bounce even less high. And so on until you are laying still on the floor completely broken from what you once were. Like wise they destroy your country as well. You Willingly let yourself be deceived.
Likewise when you hear that Boehner has compromised. Then what you are really hearing is that you are losing your country little by little to those who hated what it was, and wished to destroy it.
Why should God help anyone who stands for nothing. He won’t.
The key to this election is corruption from the top down. Gangsters on the left have coopted the election. As Rove and others have made clear, the results as reported are impossible. This is a stolen election. It does not need to be proven. Obama’a election is proof on its own. The fireworks will come. They will be slow burning but will build into a confligration that will bring down the martinettes ruling us. Take a deep breath, friends. There will be a purging such as we have never seen.
“As Rove and others have made clear, the results as reported are impossible.”
I like your sentiment as it is just. But Officially it will go nowhere. Those are the times we live in.
It is not like the fraud has not been discovered before. It has. It was during the 2000 election. And what did congress do. They forced states to switch to voting systems that are way more problematic, and way more easy to cheat. They did nothing to ensure that the elections were fairly monitored or that ineligible people could not vote or even vote as many times as they wanted. I have to admit that I was shocked when even the UN admitted that something was horribly wrong with all that. But experience says it is only going to get worse. Even the republican congress will not take up that fight.
Ok, you have established that you are a person of principal.
What if, in advance of the election, you had known that there was a strong liklihood that Obama, in his 2nd term, would find a way with his Dem cohorts to seize an additional 2 more terms after this one, and rule for 12 more years?
OR,that the Dems would so consolidate their power that the Repubs would not be able to regain the presidency for 12 more years?
Would you STILL have not voted for Romney?
Please don’t avoid the question by saying it’s not possible.
I am a Christian conservative, and I think anyone who thinks a vote is some kind of soul searching journey into their Biblical beliefs is arrogant and a navel gazing narcissist hiding behind phony self righteousness. I am not an official member of the GOP in any way, shape or form other than voter registration.
This has nothing to do with wooing your arrogant self to anything. You made a horrible decision. Period. You threw away every precept of the wisdom of Proverbs for some kind of charismatic witchcraft. Be gone.
I think anyone who calls themselves a Christian, and then thinks they can compartmentalize their faith and compromise with agendas promoting sin as some kind of virtue - are CINO’s.
Or to quote Jesus “This people honors Me with their lips, but their hearts are far, far from Me”. - Matthew 15:8
Be comforted in your wrath against Christians who will not sell out their faith or principles to vote for your party’s liberals - we will no longer be a part of your party or ever vote for anyone in it.
Enjoy the consequences. You earned them.
Your Bible quote is not relevant to this discussion, and I could pull a 100 out to make you look foolish, but I won’t use the Word that way.
And you are dumber than I think if you think helping Obama win is less evil than voting for Mitt. That’s retarded, and I don’t mean to insult the mentally handicapped.
A vote is NOT ABOUT the voter, I repeat, it is NOT about the voter -
And it’s not about a profession of faith: It’s not about that at all, you judgmental arrogant ass. I worked hard, much harder than you, to prevent Mitt from being the nominee. My conscience is totally clear. What did you do? Where were you then?
Thus I was left with a choice this week. At the time of that choice, my only Christian response is to make the best, or in this case, the least damaging, choice. There are seasons for everything.
And this is the end of our season together. You are too ignorant/arrogant and I’m done with you.
Absolutely, I would have voted for Romney if I believed that a strong liklihood that Obama would somehow overturn free elections and the constitutional amendments limiting his terms.
In that case, it would no longer be a contest between two liberals that are both horrible on social values and on economic policies. One of the candidates would at that point be a clear threat to our democracy, and I would vote for the lesser evil.
I know people have tried to make that case for Obama as it is, but I don't see it.
It is concerning to me that the rule of law is not being followed with regard to Obama's citizenship and eligibility. But as I mentioned, the GOP has had control of the House and could have investigated. They share equal responsibility for that conspiracy and can no longer use it as an argument that I should vote for the GOP candidate.
"OR,that the Dems would so consolidate their power that the Repubs would not be able to regain the presidency for 12 more years?"
Well that depends on what you mean by "consolidate their power". If you mean sway voters, that's just the free election process. I don't see how they could do that unless they do a wonderful job for the next 4 years. Or the GOP gets even more stupid then they already are.
I don't believe the democrats are trying to make us all dependent. We are not as Romney said 47% dependent now. But even if we were, that's not a model that is sustainable, I don't think they could continue that for 4 years and be viewed favorable, much less 12 years. It's pretty clear neither candidate understands what has happened to our economy and neither knows how to fix it.
Of course, with failure to fix the economy, we may become more dependent on the government, and we may very well test how sustainable it is. And if the GOP's response continues to be to cut safety nets with no plan to fix the economy, that approach could very well keep democrats in power for some time.
It is simply because no authority will take up the cause of justice that existing authority must be brought down. The mechanics for this are not yet in place but millions of citizens are on a unified quest for the means to do so. The ballot box has failed. The consequences are dire.
Even as I voted for Romney, I had a sick feeling that he was going to disappoint me, as a conservative. I just knew that he was going to give in to the Dems and Bohner and McConnell would be as spineless as usual.
Well, I feel sure they will still cave on demand.
If 113,098 others in CO are like you, that explains the loss of the state.
Lost NM by 76,400. Thanks.