Posted on 11/08/2012 12:48:05 PM PST by NYer
I get where you’re coming from. I voted for Romney and I wanted him to win, but at the same time I wasn’t expecting much from him even if he won.
The way I see it we’re headed off a fiscal cliff at 80 MPH. Romney might have slowed it down to about 40-50 MPH, but we’d still be headed off the cliff. Now that Obama has won and has more flexibility he’ll probably speed it up to 120.
The ETA may be in doubt, but the destination is not.
“Oh sure. Marco Rubio who thinks Republicans should address illegal immigration?”
How does he think it should be addressed? We need to close the border with Mexico. No border, no country.
If Rubio supported that, I would support him.
If Rush Limbaugh is correct, the border jumpers are coming here to hop on the gravy train, not to carve out a better life in the “Land of Opportunity”. The ones who are already here need to understand that continuous unfettered illegal immigration will cause the welfare ship to sink and eventually cost them their own government benefits. Rubio would make a good messenger of truth to the Hispanic voters (legal and probably illegal as well) who went 75% for Obama.
The RNC is just waiting to get lucky so they can have another turn at the helm.
And that's not just my Opinion!
However, I do have an important question. Do we really know for certain that the conservatives didn't show up? Because I suspect cheating more than no-showing. Too many reports of long lines to vote. Most of us have a great deal more sense than the caller who's tired of moderates.
This is what happens when in 4 years you add 13 million to food stamps and a couple of million more to disabilty rolls. 15 million votes is alot of a headstart to overcome.The House must defund the welfare funding or no amount of tv ads and organizing will win.
The answer to me seems pretty obvious. You are looking at a real lost generation. You don’t smile a 40 million dollar smile and flash your shiny successes to inspire your troops. You go out and offer solutions, not a hearty supply side pep talk about making us great again. The core of the Republican party is full of walking wounded taxpayers. Go out and tell them you aren’t forgotten - over and over. Tell them Obama put them in chains, but instead of lavishly-paid bureaucrats getting all the perks paid for with every red cent left in the land, you’ll do a little redistribution of your own - out of their hands and back into the States where the conditions for production is being met, not to States like Illinois who steal votes and cash alike, overtax their businesses and reward failure. Speak to the essence of the hatreds that must be boiling under the skin of the forgotten ones. Speak to the hot center that must be there.
I carefully listened to the debates. HOW MANY TIMES did Romney say “I agree with the President” or “The President was right when he...(fill in the blank).
How many times?
When you can’t tell a “moderate” republican from an ultra liberal democrat, then that republican is NOT going to get m
my vote.
If I vote for someone in a party other than democrat or republican, than that individual just isn’t going to win due to how our voting system is structured. It’s worse than wasting a vote as the effect is the same as not voting at all.
I’ve been a registered republican for over 30 years. This year I registered as an independent. Why?
I can’t tell a republican from a democrat on enough key issues to actually make a difference.
Presidents don’t seem to know what their job is any more. Presidents don’t make jobs, business people do! So when a president or contender stands there and tells me he’s going to create XYZ jobs, he’s lying. I don’t vote for known liars.
When a president or contender says HE’s going to raise taxes on this group or that, he’s stepped out of bounds. It’s CONGRESS’s job to initiate taxes, not a president’s job. So when a president or contender tells me that he rules congress and controls [i]their[/i] vote, he’s telling me he’s corrupt. And so is congress for buying into it, abiding by it and not doing THEIR jobs.
Anymore, both parties are globalists. That means that American sovereignty is down the tubes. It means that BOTH parties are nothing more than sock puppets. Each is controlled by the global agenda. I expected the Democrat party to be that corrupt as it’s the party of amoralism. But now that the Republican party has lost it’s nerve and sidled up to the democratic agenda, there is absolutely NO point in voting for a republican any more.
They sold us out by not adhering to what they preached over the last several years. Putting a wishy-washy, stammering man in the republican slot, a man who couldn’t answer the tough questions with specifics and in detail, who could not and would not level with those whose support he was requesting was the icing on the cake for me.
The republican contender lost my vote during those debates because it was painfully obvious to me that he was not, and is not, a republican or a leader. He might be a very nice man, a wonderful husband and father, but from my eyes, he’s not a president.
And that’s just the beginning.
I don’t like the platform of the democrat party, or it’s idologies, but I will give this to them: They adhere to it. By comparison, Republicans lack commitment to the nation, and to the people.
Just my opinion, but I have a sneaking suspicion that there are a few million others who share similar sentiments, and who either did not vote, or voted for an alternate party.
Big talk, but we still lost our frigging country.... and we may NEVER get it back.
While you may take pride in thinking that you didn’t lick a boot, you are now eating the enemies filthy socks.
NOBODY with ANY argument is going to convince me that giving Obama the election and thus the ability to continue to wreck our country and ruin our lives, was a good thing, period.
Zactly!!!!
I posted my thoughts on this last night and had to listen to all the intellectually hollow posters claim there was this national scam and theft of our votes.
Not one ever considered just how friggin massive that fraud would have to and the sheer number of people who would have to be involved.
People get giddy when they think they’ve pulled off some great scam and they open their mouths.
Where are those people and who were their leaders?
Consider that the vote is not some amorphous thing that happens automatically. There are very real human beings in the checks and balance of this process and many last night were asking me to think thousands and thousands did this???
Really??? Across what 5,6 states??? there are that many dishonest people and everyone knew better than to talk?
1. To all those who couldn’t vote for a Mormon: You reelected an incompetent muslim America-hating commie. Feel better now? Romney would have been a weak president but far better than what we are stuck with. You also reelected Holder, Big Sis, Clueless Joe and the whole hee haw gang. The Supreme Court will be dominated by leftists (although we may not notice the change on that one). Once the boomers start retiring in droves, SS and Medicare will be destroyed. Taxes will be raised on all of us - the rich will shelter their wealth, guys like me will be taxed into poverty. Thanks.
2. Don’t underestimate the effect of the Obama-led twitter noise about riots if he lost - a lot of weak people who live near black communities were afraid to vote so they stayed home. They were afraid for their families and homes, so it’s somewhat understandable, and it cost Romney thousands of votes as a minimum. It cost Obama nothing to set up.
3. Vote fraud in the inner cities was rampant and turned the tide in the big cities in the swing states. They can generate as many votes as they need in these precincts. The only way to stop it is voter ID laws, enforcement, and enough real live Americans voting that cheating won’t be enough.
Rush and the rest here seem to be going off election night totals which are incomplete. There are still votes being counted. Romney is going to end up surpassing McCain’s 2008 popular vote number and Obama will end up under-performing 2008 by about 2M votes. Still enough for about a 3% margin of victory. Some 2008 Obama voters sat out, but the Dem turn out machine replaced them with new voters from their core demos.
I’m right there with you and this whole business of the election being stolen is just so Al Gore.
Bottom line is GOPe and RNC gave us a crap product and I can see how
People would decide “Yea, I ain’t buying. You need to do some R&D and improve the product. This rev. Sucks”.
And I wanted him/her to explain the comment.
Fair enough?
Sure is.
Extremely well said.
Also very true.
The entire Paul agenda does not have to be taken wholesale, but there are a lot of votes to be had by taking the stuff he is correct about and trumpeting it.
The youth vote is out there for the taking. All the cool kids are Paulians. We need to figure out how to tap into that pool of voters. Taking some of the Paul stuff and crediting him for it would go a long way.
The 'discouragement' was happening here - for almost a year. It may have worked and worked well.
This makes me really upset. Romney was not my first choice, not even my fifth choice. But he was still a far sight better than Barack Hussein Obama (mmmmm mmmmm mmmmm). I have a disability. It is painful to walk on both of my knees, and there was a very long walk from the parking lot into the gymnasium where I had to vote. But doggone it, I took my cane and I kept stopping and resting all the way in and all the way back, and I cast my vote. And these people stayed HOME?????
Anyone who voted for Obama, and anyone who didn’t vote, deserves the government we end up with. But the rest of us don’t. Yet, we’re being flushed down the toilet right along with them.
>Christian conservatives are the Republican base and they are not going to vote for a liberal and some included being a Mormon in their decision.
I’m sure they are very proud of themselves...just like the muslim scum are so proud and ready to die for “the cause”.
The only difference between an islamist enforcing their religious beliefs and the Christian conservatives enforcing theirs is death by action and death by inaction.
Common sense isn’t.
Once. Now tell me how many times Ginsburg, Breyer, Kagan and Sotomayor have voted with Roberts.
http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/91013/sonia-sotomayor-supreme-court-liberal-voice?page=0,1
Sotomayor has exhibited a similar style in her written opinions. Last term, for the first time ever in a Supreme Court opinion, she used the phrase “undocumented immigrant,” rather than the term “illegal immigrant,” which the Court had used many times previously. Lest that be perceived as an accident, Sotomayor used “undocumented immigrant” several times again during oral arguments in a later case, even while her colleagues used “illegal immigrant.”
It is still early in her tenure, but these are all good reasons for liberal constitutionalists to feel encouraged by Sotomayor.
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