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Boehner: ‘Obamacare Is The Law Of The Land’

Posted on 11/08/2012 2:46:03 PM PST by ConservativeMan55

As ABC News reports, House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) has confirmed that the House GOP will no longer attempt to repeal Obamacare. When asked about the future of the health care reform law, Boehner said “the election changes that” and “Obamacare is the law of the land.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: boehner; healthcare; obama; obamacare
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The SC can make things up as they go along. If they want Obamacare, they’ll find a way to get around the illegal tax argument.

141 posted on 11/08/2012 3:47:26 PM PST by cydcharisse (`)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Do something about it, tanned one. DO NOT DARE to agree to ANYTHING that you can stall or quash. Who the hell cares what they say about Republicans. We will be bashed no matter what you do, even if you cave. So be brave.

142 posted on 11/08/2012 3:49:56 PM PST by EnquiringMind
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To: ConservativeMan55; Grampa Dave; tubebender; Ernest_at_the_Beach; WilliamofCarmichael; budwiesest; ..
About a month before the election, my wife went in to see her cardiologist. She told the doctor that they should maybe hurry up the valve job on her heart as she is 71 and probably wouldn't make it past the death squad review.

His immediate reply was an emphatic "He's NOT getting re-elected!"

She said "How can you say or even think that with such confidence?"

He just repeated his claim even more emphatically!!!

We're now thinking we should probably check the coroner's office to see if the dear doctor has arrived!!!

143 posted on 11/08/2012 3:49:56 PM PST by SierraWasp (Welcome to the next 50 months of an unprecedebted lame duck session!!!)
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To: ConservativeMan55

How about you cut this government to bone? How about that John?

If the House doesn't authorize it, they can't spend it.

How about you try that?

Oh I'm sorry - am I offending people with my rant?

I'll probably catch more Hell for my post than Boehner will and I'm not the one taking your money and freedom. :(:(:(:(:(
144 posted on 11/08/2012 3:52:36 PM PST by Tzimisce (2016? Not if the country's dead. :(:(:(:(:()
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To: ConservativeMan55
Obamacare is the law of the land

Try again, Bonehead.

That a law limited to such objects as may be authorised by the constitution, would, under the true construction of this clause, be the supreme law of the land; but a law not limited to those objects, or not made pursuant to the constitution, would not be the supreme law of the land, but an act of usurpation, and consequently void.
St. George Tucker

145 posted on 11/08/2012 3:53:14 PM PST by MamaTexan (In Propria Persona)
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To: SC_Pete

Who the Hell cares if the GOP has the senate in 2014?

What are they going to do with it besides not a damn thing?

Meanwhile we are stuck with the horror of Obama care?

**** the GOP.

146 posted on 11/08/2012 3:54:04 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: PeevedPatriot

I say we draft a simple contract with the GOP, we state that unless they pledge to do our bidding (which amounts to nothing more than protecting the word and spirit of the constitution) we will not write a check.
I have given them alot over the years, in many ways.
The last one to represent me was The Gipper back in the 80’s. Everyone one of the rest were left of center damn it!
We need to fund a coalition instead of funding the GOP put every penny in escrow and negotiate our terms. In this way we can make the Grand Old Party grand again.

147 posted on 11/08/2012 3:54:35 PM PST by RavenLooneyToon (Tail gunner Joe was right.)
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To: lesko

He and Diane Sawyer evidently had a few before and after this interview.

148 posted on 11/08/2012 3:55:57 PM PST by rfp1234
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To: LucianOfSamasota

It’s Just Time to Fire Boehner! That’s it. Obamacare has been the law of the land for a while. He is pointing out the obvious. It is also obvious that Boehner is completely worthless and Republicans do not need him. He is completely in the way of the troops.

He must go! He absolutely must go!, and it is high time for this to be repeated over and over, until he is gone. How in the world is it that the conservative media doesn’t start a push to tell this guy to Get Lost? How many more times does he have to cave to Obama before people who matter start to notice.

149 posted on 11/08/2012 4:02:42 PM PST by Windy City Conservative (Kyle Smith)
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To: rfp1234

Oh Yes, Levin is all over it. If only Rush, Sean and the other Conservative media outlets would join in, Boehner would be kicked out of the speaker’s chair in a few hours.

150 posted on 11/08/2012 4:04:17 PM PST by Windy City Conservative (Kyle Smith)
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To: mtrott

Makes me wonder. Was the take over of the student loans a way for the government to fix the Dr. Shortage? I thought that their is a amendment to that take over that states something to the affect that having the loans the person has to donate time to the government?
I also believe that the pubs will not give up the power over the people either. And the people on this board think otherwise, they have not thought through the power over the people they would give up. When this was passed, this was the final nail. The system can not be fixed, way too late. If some politician tells you otherwise, they are lying.

151 posted on 11/08/2012 4:04:40 PM PST by luv2ndamend (Same party, different letter.)
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To: LibLieSlayer
If boner were nancy pelosi and Bush were in office and this was his bill... there would not have been any funding of any part of “Bushcare”. There are procedural moves that can be made to slow implementation to a crawl. dims would do it and tell America that they will block it until they control all three branches and then they would pledge to repeal it... but our side are like mittens... too nice and too timid

So true but the pubbies ARE basically the same as the (D)s. They are controlled by the same elites. The (R)s can only talk a story - they can't implement it. Their money people wouldn't allow such.

152 posted on 11/08/2012 4:07:10 PM PST by Digger
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To: FlipWilson
Why couldn’t he have simply said, “until such time as we have the votes to repeal it, it is the law. I will continue to hope that one day we do have the votes but until such time, I am bound to obey the laws passed by congress, as disreputable as they may be.”

Worse things are coming very rapidly. I agree that the above is a rational statement, but I suspect that Congress may have to keep their powder dry for much more “Unlawful” Shenanigans from this WPOS President

153 posted on 11/08/2012 4:07:18 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: BlessingsofLiberty

Why are there any Boehner supporters here? I don’t get it. What has Boehner done that any Freshman member of the House couldn’t also do? BOEHNER MUST GO!!! For crying out loud, I’ve been saying this for almost 2 years; isn’t it obvious yet?

154 posted on 11/08/2012 4:08:13 PM PST by Windy City Conservative
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To: MamaTexan

“That a law limited to such objects as may be authorised by the constitution...”

Tell that to the masterful SCOTUS Justice Roberts.

155 posted on 11/08/2012 4:08:16 PM PST by BlessingsofLiberty (Remember Brian Terry...)
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To: ConservativeMan55

It doesn’t matter if it’s the law of the land or not if the country falls into bankruptcy and violence. Keep your powder dry folks. The takers will come after your stuff when (not if) the checks stop coming. Revolution is around the corner and it will be the takers versus the makers.

156 posted on 11/08/2012 4:08:59 PM PST by ChuckHam
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To: Soul Seeker
Yes folks, continue on blaming people for not voting all the while ignoring the GOP was just playing everyone with no intention to ever repeal it. I knew they had no intention, it was sealed with Roberts’ vote. If they were truly against it they’d have fought it with their jobs on the line by holding back funding and certainly wouldn’t stop with on election.

Bingo! Exactly. Just what I expected from the minute it was made law.

157 posted on 11/08/2012 4:09:39 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Since this is an Obamacare-related thread, please consider the following, but also let me know if this material has already been posted.

Regardless what Boehner says about Obamacare being law, I have been disturbed with the Supreme Court's decision on Obamacare as per the following explanation. Regardless that Justice Roberts referenced Gibbons v. Ogden in the Obamacare opinion, he seems to have "overlooked" (ignored?) clarification in the Gibbons opinion concerning the federal government's constitutional authority to address healthcare, actually the lack thereof.

More specifically, Roberts seemingly ignored two key statements in the Gibbons opinion which clearly indicate, imo, that Congress has no constitutional authority to make legislation of any kind regulating public healthcare.

In fact, note that the first statement below clarifies, in a single sentence, that not only is public healthcare a state power issue, sovereign state powers to address public healthcare issues protected by the 10th Amendment, but also that Congress has no constitutional authority to regulate intrastate commerce; FDR's activist justices got the Commerce Clause wrong in Wickard v. Filburn.

"State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, c. are not within the power granted to Congress (emphases added)." --Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." --Chief Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

In other words, Congress cannot make laws to lay taxes or establish penalties in the name of intrastate public healthcare any more than it can make laws regulating 1st Amendment protected religious expression and freedom of press imo.

Here's two more excerpts from USSC case opinions which likewise indicate that Congress has no constitutional authority to make laws regulating intrastate healthcare. Note that Justice Barbour referenced the above excerpt from Gibbons in New York v. Miln, expanding it as follows.

"Inspection laws, quarantine laws, health laws of every description (emphasis added), as well as laws for regulating the internal commerce of a state and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c., are component parts of this mass." --Justice Barbour, New York v. Miln, 1837.

And before Constitution-ignoring FDR nuked the Supreme Court with activist justices, Constitution-respecting justices had again emphasized that Congress has no business sticking its big nose into intrastate medical practice.

“Direct control of medical practice in the states is obviously beyond the power of Congress.” –Linder v. United States, 1925.

Unfortunately, until the states decide to delegate to Congress via constitutional amendment the specific power to tax and spend in the name of public healthcare, the federal government's unconstitutional power grab concerning Obamacare is stalling the states from establishing their own healthcare programs, evidenced by Massachusetts' RomneyCare.

The bottom line is that constitutionally indefensible federal Obamacare is glaring evidence that Article V of the Constitution is the best kept secret of the unconstitutionally big federal government imo.

158 posted on 11/08/2012 4:10:43 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: TigersEye

Hope there is a massive layoff in this country. They can be without health insurance and when they go to Dr hope clinics say no to them.

159 posted on 11/08/2012 4:12:09 PM PST by YukonGreen
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To: tsowellfan
It’s not going to be defunded because John Boehner is speaker.

All the more reason Boner should not be Speaker. Maybe we can persuade Caliph Hussein to give him a Cabinet job.

160 posted on 11/08/2012 4:12:37 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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