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Boehner: ‘Obamacare Is The Law Of The Land’
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Posted on 11/08/2012 2:46:03 PM PST by ConservativeMan55

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To: ConservativeMan55

Spoken like the true sell-out RINO he is and always will be.
The House controls spending in this country and this sell-out just cowers down to the communist like a dog in heat.


101 posted on 11/08/2012 3:18:49 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: tsowellfan

Well, with Roberts’ cleverly engineered decree that it’s a tax, perhaps it can be brought back before the court with a challenge on the basis that it’s an illegal tax.


102 posted on 11/08/2012 3:19:00 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: ConservativeMan55

{#%>€.
I can’t listen to Mark Levin now (at dentist) but I hope he’s tearing
Boehner 3 or 4 new ones.


103 posted on 11/08/2012 3:19:32 PM PST by rfp1234
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To: tsowellfan

There’s a lot of crap they could defund...


104 posted on 11/08/2012 3:20:37 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: ari-freedom

Obamacare IS HERE TO STAY. Obviously, voters wanted it, they re-elected Obama. Boehner knows it will be devastating,........the people will have to learn a costly lesson.


105 posted on 11/08/2012 3:20:56 PM PST by Toespi
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To: SoFloFreeper
BULLSHIT! NO CONGRESS IS REQUIRED TO FUND THE ACTS OF PREVIOUS CONGRESSES!!! DEFUND OBAMACARE NOW!!!
106 posted on 11/08/2012 3:22:12 PM PST by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: Soul Seeker

yeah, well, if you don’t support the electable alternatives to Obama and his cabal, you’re gonna get more of it, friend.

the fact is boehner and the house passed repeals of obamacare. all were resisted by the senate.

this election cycle was another chance. the voters chose otherwise.

we can resist obamacare with lots of stuff, but it is the law of the land until it is repealed...and we cannot blame the gop. we must blame obama.

every doctor that leaves the practice, blame obama.
every premium increase, blame obama.
every lost job, blame obama.

stop blaming the damn gop for not being able to stop what is the law...blame the assclown who signed the bill.


107 posted on 11/08/2012 3:22:22 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: ConservativeMan55

No, but they would vote to repeal and Obama would veto it. If the GOP has the votes to override, then so be it. WE WIN. Otherwise, they have a great issue to play against Hillary in 2016. Game, set, match. At least that’s the way they seem to be playing it.


108 posted on 11/08/2012 3:22:48 PM PST by SC_Pete
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To: Kansas58

“A couple of points:

1.) I am of the opinion that SOME of the legal efforts not yet decided will help us a great deal.

a.) Conscience Clause, contraceptive/abortion mandates, when the “intent” of Congress was that such would not happen by “executive order” remember?

b.) The “State Exchanges” are an integral part of Obamcare, and many States will refuse to implement these exchanges on their own. Their really isn’t a funding method to fund much of Obamacare without these “State Exchanges” is there? The “Default” program, the Fed program, has no funding vehicle. The House is not likely to provide such funding.

2.) GIVEN THE ABOVE, there is SLIM chance that the House Republicans have something up their sleeves. We can FOLLOW THE LAW, OBAMACARE IS THE LAW, and we can still stop much of what the libs want, BECAUSE THAT IS THE LAW!”

I do think this is going to blow up big now, in several of the states, and there will be a lot of media coverage. As we speak, the IRS is preparing forms that you will have to complete and submit with your income tax return. I think republicans need to start immediately to do whatever it takes to point out each and every adverse event that occurs in their district, such as doctors closing their practices, doctors refusing to accept Medicaid/Medicare patients, businesses closing, businesses eliminating or reducing full time employees, companies eliminating health benefits, etc. They need to go on local media every chance they get and shout these outcomes from the rooftops for the next three years, because this is going to require a groundswell of support from the grass roots in order to get rid of it.


109 posted on 11/08/2012 3:23:02 PM PST by mtrott
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To: ConservativeMan55

No surprise there. We haven’t had a congress in four years, why start now?


110 posted on 11/08/2012 3:23:19 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: skeeter
I agree, we voted and more people preferred Obama and his policies. The people now own Obamacare and it's consequences. I think come mid terms in 2014 people will know how bad obamacare is. What the House Speaker should have added, was Obamacare is the law of the land and the only changes to the law we will agree to is complete repeal. You know the dems are going to try and improve the negative effects coming....
111 posted on 11/08/2012 3:23:23 PM PST by martinidon
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To: Toespi

I think this is more like passive aggressive Republican non voters said “Let it be.” Barack squoke by, overall turnout was less than in 2008 and so was Barack’s margin.


112 posted on 11/08/2012 3:23:40 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Boener is a symptom. Citizens now have no control over anything really. Rates of taxation, innumerable laws on the books, regulations covering everything, state and local codes etc, or where any of the money skimmed from the private sector is spent. Every citizen is now a wholly owned subsidiary of the health insurance leviathan. They sold us like cattle.


113 posted on 11/08/2012 3:24:18 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: NKP_Vet

The GOP and Conservatives are becoming a smaller and smaller minority. Immigration, education, and social engineering have evinced an electorate that is progressive. Why fight it, you can’t win. Today I decided to give in to Obama...just like Boehner. Drive the train, Mr. President. Open the borders. When the jihadis blow up the Mall of America the people will start worrying about their security


114 posted on 11/08/2012 3:24:36 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

I was wrong. Boner isn’t as dumb as he appears to be. He’s moreso.

You want to keep trying to repeal Obamacare, first of all, because it’s teh right thing to do. Second, you want to repeal it for 2014, 2016, 2018, 2020. But Speaker RINO doesn’t seem to have enough brain cells to understand that.

We need to contact our good Republican members asking them to put in bills to repeal Obamacare, to defund it, to reduce the number of IRS agents (to avoid sequestration, of course) so they can’t enforce it, and to define the taxing power (narrowly so Obamacare falls outside it.) We need to keep making an issue of it.

Three states voted to nullify it in their states Tuesday, whcih means it’s as unpopular as ever. So keep using it as an issue.

But then, the GOP might win and the RINOs will not allow that.

Boner needs to be challenged. Apparently, like most Republican leader, his only principle is to have no principles and his only strategy is preemptive surrender.


115 posted on 11/08/2012 3:25:50 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Just before the 2014 elections, the House should once more present the Senate with a repeal and say “ok, are you SURE you don’t want this?”


116 posted on 11/08/2012 3:25:50 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: ScottinVA
He had his chance when Bachmann wanted to defund Obamacare, which the GOP House could have done. Don't think they really care. They have theirs after all .Even if they get sent home, they have their golden parachute and Cadillac care for them and theirs.

vaudine

117 posted on 11/08/2012 3:26:10 PM PST by vaudine
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To: ConservativeMan55

I was wrong. Boner isn’t as dumb as he appears to be. He’s moreso.

You want to keep trying to repeal Obamacare, first of all, because it’s teh right thing to do. Second, you want to repeal it for 2014, 2016, 2018, 2020. But Speaker RINO doesn’t seem to have enough brain cells to understand that.

We need to contact our good Republican members asking them to put in bills to repeal Obamacare, to defund it, to reduce the number of IRS agents (to avoid sequestration, of course) so they can’t enforce it, and to define the taxing power (narrowly so Obamacare falls outside it.) We need to keep making an issue of it.

Three states voted to nullify it in their states Tuesday, which means it’s as unpopular as ever. So keep using it as an issue.

But then, the GOP might win and the RINOs will not allow that.

Boner needs to be challenged. Apparently, like most Republican leader, his only principle is to have no principles and his only strategy is preemptive surrender.


118 posted on 11/08/2012 3:26:10 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The courts are the ONLY hope now. We did not win the Senate. It's all but over.

HealthCare is a major thing to be threatening to pull from the American People. MAJOR! Obama did it, but slowly and while the private insurance companies still existed. He also lied. He lied about every aspect of ObamaCare. He claimed there will always be a choice between ObamaCare and private insurance. That's not going to be true in the end. There will be NO alternative. It will either be ObamaCare no NO healthcare. And that's OUR problem if we do not rid this nation of ObamaCare NOW.

We lost the Senate. Only thing left now is the courts - but it needs to be done now.

My assumption: ObamaCare is not only the law of the land (like abortion) but it's here to stay. That's sad!

119 posted on 11/08/2012 3:26:24 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: SoFloFreeper
A. You don't say it, even if you think it.

B. You come up with ways to undermine it, defund it, repeal pieces of it. Maybe even think about how to package a repeal as part of a budget deal.

C. You don't do B is you are afraid of the Washington Post and you are a big government liberal who likes having huge federal spending that you can help parcel out. That is who Boehner is.

D. So, given that Boehner is a liberal who does not have big problems with the end of freedom in America and the imposition of Obamacare, what he said is correct.

120 posted on 11/08/2012 3:27:04 PM PST by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: martinidon
I wish I could imagine a situation where Obamacare is repealed, but I can't. We can't even agree to reform SSI, which is headed for oblivion.

The whole shabang will come down first.

121 posted on 11/08/2012 3:27:08 PM PST by skeeter
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To: ConservativeMan55

There is no ‘law of the land,’ Boehner, the people voted for a banana republic instead. Take your insurance, take your ‘tax’ and take your FedMob ‘laws’ and stuff them.


122 posted on 11/08/2012 3:29:02 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: tsowellfan

It’s financially untenable and the consequences are going to be unacceptable. It would be cheaper and easier and better for America’s health to give free health care plans to the welfare set.


123 posted on 11/08/2012 3:29:11 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: All; ConservativeMan55
And now we have a thread full of idiots calling for Boehner's head.

Boehner lives in reality.

Look: OBAMA WON. The Dems made GAINS in the Senate. No thanks to Akin & Mourdock.

The House already repealed ObamaCare in 2011; it accomplished nothing. There is no opportunity to repeal until 2017 at which point it should be "fully implemented" and the American People will see it for what it is.

That said, it's even with Republicans swept in to power for 2017, entitlements DO NOT GO AWAY.

124 posted on 11/08/2012 3:31:40 PM PST by newzjunkey (Obama thanks Pontius Pilate Freepers for giving him four more years!)
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To: TBP

It’s not going to be defunded because John Boehner is speaker. I said from the very beginning that any conservative running for congress should be a required campaign promise to “Repeal John Boehner as Speaker” (it would have been worth at least 3% in the polls)

John Boehner needed to go long ago. It’s too late. Damage is done.

Remove him now and we can talk about defunding ObamaCare. Until then, ObamaCare is indeed the Law of the Land. Mr. Speaker said so.


125 posted on 11/08/2012 3:32:21 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: Tuxedo
Now, he can defund it. And then defund whatever else - DOE, DHHS, EPA, etc. And not a thing Obama nor the Senate can do about it. Any regulation put forth, he can strike their budgetary amount just like that. Will he? Nope - we got the wrong guy as a Speaker.

I can't believe it took 42 posts for someone not to overlook the obvious. If you don't mind, let me shout this, like a poster earlier on the thread:

He can defund it. And then defund whatever else - DOE, DHHS, EPA, etc. And not a thing Obama nor the Senate can do about it. Any regulation put forth, he can strike their budgetary amount just like that.

There. I feel better.

Thank you.

Cordially,

126 posted on 11/08/2012 3:32:48 PM PST by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: Tuxedo
Need someone like Ron Paul

Since the Speaker of the House doesn't have to be a member of the House, this would be a perfect use of Dr. Paul, and a good way to repair bridges with the Paulies. And Speaker Paul would control the agenda. You know it would be very different from Boner's agenda.

127 posted on 11/08/2012 3:34:12 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: kabar
We already know that Boehner had struck a deal with Obama including raising taxes.

Stop feeding yourself lies. It was never a discussion of rate changes. The "deal" Boehner offered was always about eliminating loopholes, broadening the base.

What happened to wanting everyone to have skin in the game?

The cognitive dissonance on display here is mind boggling.

128 posted on 11/08/2012 3:35:22 PM PST by newzjunkey (Obama thanks Pontius Pilate Freepers for giving him four more years!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
It’s financially untenable and the consequences are going to be unacceptable. It would be cheaper and easier and better for America’s health to give free health care plans to the welfare set.

I agree 100%. But the American people will never know the truth. The unacceptable consequences will somehow be blamed on republicans and not the real problem "ObamaCare".

"We" (The American people) are destroying ourselves

129 posted on 11/08/2012 3:36:08 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan

Oh, they’re going to have the truth forced upon them when they can only book three weeks in advance with a third world doctor.


130 posted on 11/08/2012 3:37:45 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: ConservativeMan55

If boehner is annointed again... we should let the gop know that we will march on DC. I will go and I would imagine Beck would organize it.

LLS


131 posted on 11/08/2012 3:38:52 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (I AM JOHN GALT)
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To: ConservativeMan55

He is a drunk and he is justthisclose to a scandal.

LLS


132 posted on 11/08/2012 3:39:46 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (I AM JOHN GALT)
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To: ari-freedom

“You call this fighting?”

You must have missed the first two years of Obama’s administration. He controlled both the Senate and the House.

Boehner lead the charge against Obama Care and he also helped defeat Cap and Trade. He was in the minority for two years in the House. Obama passed Obama Care with his socialist majority.

The House voted twice to repeal Obama Care. Filthy Harry Reid would never bring it the floor. It wouldn’t have mattered with the Socialist controlled Senate.

I have issues with Boehner. But, let’s not rewrite history.


133 posted on 11/08/2012 3:39:59 PM PST by BlessingsofLiberty (Remember Brian Terry...)
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To: newzjunkey

It isn’t an entitlement, though. It’s an albatross. It would be cheaper just to give the welfare set free health care plans.


134 posted on 11/08/2012 3:40:03 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yep, and I need to find out how I can invest in off-shore medical care. So many doctors are going to retire or quit that we may see the creation of a medical industry that is outside US jurisdiction.


135 posted on 11/08/2012 3:40:59 PM PST by mtrott
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To: Bizhvywt

“Was Boehner crying?”

No, but, I feel like crying for my country.

Maybe a good cry is called for at this time.

Pray for the USA


136 posted on 11/08/2012 3:42:32 PM PST by BlessingsofLiberty (Remember Brian Terry...)
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To: mtrott

I don’t know why they couldn’t do it even in Canada or Mexico. There’s nothing I know of in the law of either place which would forbid medicos to set up offices whose purpose was only to serve foreigners.


137 posted on 11/08/2012 3:42:57 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: tsowellfan
The unacceptable consequences will somehow be blamed on republicans and not the real problem

This is an excellent point. Employers bear a heavy tax burden under Obamacare but will get blamed for layoffs and salary cuts instead of the law causing them. It'll be more business-bashing instead of spotlighting the real problem. Evil insurance companies will be blamed for premium increases. Doctors who can't make a go of it caring for Medicare/Medicaid patients will be out for profit alone.

138 posted on 11/08/2012 3:44:33 PM PST by PeevedPatriot ("A wise man's heart inclines him toward the right, but a fool's heart toward the left."--Eccl 10:2)
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To: newzjunkey
No thanks to Akin & Mourdock.

Don't blame Akin and Mourdock. They were both opposed to Obamacare and voters who clearly knew that made a deliberate choice to elect their opponents who will now enable Obamacare.

Schizophrenic female suburbanite Republicans who thought that they could vote for McCaskill and still escape the curse of Obamacare are about to wake up to their worst nightmare -- and there is no morning after pill to abort what they have just conceived.

139 posted on 11/08/2012 3:45:13 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: SoFloFreeper
If boner were nancy pelosi and Bush were in office and this was his bill... there would not have been any funding of any part of “Bushcare”. There are procedural moves that can be made to slow implementation to a crawl. dims would do it and tell America that they will block it until they control all three branches and then they would pledge to repeal it... but our side are like mittens... too nice and too timid.

LLS

140 posted on 11/08/2012 3:45:13 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (I AM JOHN GALT)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The SC can make things up as they go along. If they want Obamacare, they’ll find a way to get around the illegal tax argument.


141 posted on 11/08/2012 3:47:26 PM PST by cydcharisse (`)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Do something about it, tanned one. DO NOT DARE to agree to ANYTHING that you can stall or quash. Who the hell cares what they say about Republicans. We will be bashed no matter what you do, even if you cave. So be brave.


142 posted on 11/08/2012 3:49:56 PM PST by EnquiringMind
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To: ConservativeMan55; Grampa Dave; tubebender; Ernest_at_the_Beach; WilliamofCarmichael; budwiesest; ..
About a month before the election, my wife went in to see her cardiologist. She told the doctor that they should maybe hurry up the valve job on her heart as she is 71 and probably wouldn't make it past the death squad review.

His immediate reply was an emphatic "He's NOT getting re-elected!"

She said "How can you say or even think that with such confidence?"

He just repeated his claim even more emphatically!!!

We're now thinking we should probably check the coroner's office to see if the dear doctor has arrived!!!

143 posted on 11/08/2012 3:49:56 PM PST by SierraWasp (Welcome to the next 50 months of an unprecedebted lame duck session!!!)
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To: ConservativeMan55
USELESS AS T**S ON A F***ING BULL!

How about you cut this government to bone? How about that John?

If the House doesn't authorize it, they can't spend it.

How about you try that?

Oh I'm sorry - am I offending people with my rant?

I'll probably catch more Hell for my post than Boehner will and I'm not the one taking your money and freedom. :(:(:(:(:(
144 posted on 11/08/2012 3:52:36 PM PST by Tzimisce (2016? Not if the country's dead. :(:(:(:(:()
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To: ConservativeMan55
Obamacare is the law of the land

Try again, Bonehead.

That a law limited to such objects as may be authorised by the constitution, would, under the true construction of this clause, be the supreme law of the land; but a law not limited to those objects, or not made pursuant to the constitution, would not be the supreme law of the land, but an act of usurpation, and consequently void.
St. George Tucker

145 posted on 11/08/2012 3:53:14 PM PST by MamaTexan (In Propria Persona)
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To: SC_Pete

Who the Hell cares if the GOP has the senate in 2014?

What are they going to do with it besides not a damn thing?

Meanwhile we are stuck with the horror of Obama care?

**** the GOP.


146 posted on 11/08/2012 3:54:04 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: PeevedPatriot
DEFUND THE GOP!

We need to have a CONSERVATVE CONTRACT WITH THE GOP.
I WILL NOT CONTINUE FUNDING THIS SHAM.
I say we draft a simple contract with the GOP, we state that unless they pledge to do our bidding (which amounts to nothing more than protecting the word and spirit of the constitution) we will not write a check.
I have given them alot over the years, in many ways.
The last one to represent me was The Gipper back in the 80’s. Everyone one of the rest were left of center damn it!
We need to fund a coalition instead of funding the GOP put every penny in escrow and negotiate our terms. In this way we can make the Grand Old Party grand again.

147 posted on 11/08/2012 3:54:35 PM PST by RavenLooneyToon (Tail gunner Joe was right.)
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To: lesko

He and Diane Sawyer evidently had a few before and after this interview.


148 posted on 11/08/2012 3:55:57 PM PST by rfp1234
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To: LucianOfSamasota

It’s Just Time to Fire Boehner! That’s it. Obamacare has been the law of the land for a while. He is pointing out the obvious. It is also obvious that Boehner is completely worthless and Republicans do not need him. He is completely in the way of the troops.

He must go! He absolutely must go!, and it is high time for this to be repeated over and over, until he is gone. How in the world is it that the conservative media doesn’t start a push to tell this guy to Get Lost? How many more times does he have to cave to Obama before people who matter start to notice.


149 posted on 11/08/2012 4:02:42 PM PST by Windy City Conservative (Kyle Smith)
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To: rfp1234

Oh Yes, Levin is all over it. If only Rush, Sean and the other Conservative media outlets would join in, Boehner would be kicked out of the speaker’s chair in a few hours.


150 posted on 11/08/2012 4:04:17 PM PST by Windy City Conservative (Kyle Smith)
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