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Boehner: ‘Obamacare Is The Law Of The Land’
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Posted on 11/08/2012 2:46:03 PM PST by ConservativeMan55

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To: ConservativeMan55
I knew it... the Party would cave.

Sometimes laws need to be disobeyed.

51 posted on 11/08/2012 3:00:48 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Was Boehner crying?


52 posted on 11/08/2012 3:01:15 PM PST by Bizhvywt
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To: ConservativeMan55

And just when did they ever try to repeal it? I don’t remember them withholding funding. LOL

Yes folks, continue on blaming people for not voting all the while ignoring the GOP was just playing everyone with no intention to ever repeal it. I knew they had no intention, it was sealed with Roberts’ vote. If they were truly against it they’d have fought it with their jobs on the line by holding back funding and certainly wouldn’t stop with on election.

NOT. ONE. MORE. VOTE. FROM. ME.


53 posted on 11/08/2012 3:01:15 PM PST by Soul Seeker (I will work every day to make Washington, D.C. as inconsequential in your lives as I can - Perry)
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To: nevermorelenore
change the law, stupid !!! that’s what we’re paying for !!!!!

And how would you do that, specifically? Given that the Senate and White House are in Democrat control? This is your chance to lay out your plan to change the law, Speaker Nevermorelenore.

54 posted on 11/08/2012 3:02:06 PM PST by kevao (Hey, Obama: The 1930s called, they want their economic policy back.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Sheesh. I’ve complained for years about tone deaf Republicans who can’t smack a softball out of the park. The proper answer: “Obamacare is a disastrous piece of legislation that is going to put bureaucrats between doctors and patients, drive up costs, degrade the quality of care, and lead to substandard care in a rationed system. That’s going to become brutally clear in the next couple of years as the taxes kick in and millions, soon tens of millions, of people lose their current coverage and get dumped into government rationed schemes. 60% of the American people didn’t want Obamacare to begin with, and only a president and democrat congress of surpassing arrogance would have crammed it down their throats. The recent election results probably mean we don’t have the votes for repeal right now, but Obamacare stinks to high heaven and its going to get worse. We have a huge job ahead to salvage what we can of quality medical care and to put American citizens and their doctors back in charge. “

That’s not hard.


55 posted on 11/08/2012 3:02:09 PM PST by sphinx
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To: ConservativeMan55

How does this guy ever make it to work? He obviously has to wait until all lights are guaranteed to be green before he leaves his home.

Sheesh.


56 posted on 11/08/2012 3:03:26 PM PST by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: BlessingsofLiberty

THERE IS NOTHING THE HOUSE CAN DO TO STOP OBAMA CARE!!!

Boehner as just telling the truth.

It is the Law of the Land!!

ENJOY!!!

(elections do have consequences and if you didn’t vote, you don’t have a dog in this fight)


57 posted on 11/08/2012 3:03:26 PM PST by BlessingsofLiberty (Remember Brian Terry...)
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To: ConservativeMan55
DEFUND IT!

The House Republicans have already funded it longer than necessary. I think it's March 2013 when a vote for continued funding is due. DEFUND it already!

58 posted on 11/08/2012 3:03:35 PM PST by PeevedPatriot ("A wise man's heart inclines him toward the right, but a fool's heart toward the left."--Eccl 10:2)
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To: snarkytart
How do you make font that big? I’ve been wanting to scream around here for the last 24 hours but don’t know the code.

Making a font that big pretty much guarantees that no one will want to read it. I always scroll down away from posts like that. It's the internet equivalent of screaming at the top of your lungs. Very annoying.

59 posted on 11/08/2012 3:03:45 PM PST by COBOL2Java (The GOP-e said "Beat a Marxist with a Liberal!" What a colossal blunder.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

boehner is being a douche. he acts like the election was a landslide. it wasn’t.


60 posted on 11/08/2012 3:03:51 PM PST by Reagan_Country_USA
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To: ConservativeMan55

Every time you see or hear from one of those 3 million folks that stayed home, be sure to thank them for this and the many other gifts headed our way.


61 posted on 11/08/2012 3:03:57 PM PST by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Romney & Ryan.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: ConservativeMan55

I think the Republicans should give the Democrats everything they want. Don’t fight a thing. Let them raise taxes, open the borders, raise the debt ceiling, force Catholic hospitals to pay for abortions, etc. Let’s see where we are in four years.


62 posted on 11/08/2012 3:03:57 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
“Obamacare is the law of the land.”

They said the same thing about Prohibition in 1928.

63 posted on 11/08/2012 3:04:03 PM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: ConservativeMan55; All
A couple of points:

1.) I am of the opinion that SOME of the legal efforts not yet decided will help us a great deal.

a.) Conscience Clause, contraceptive/abortion mandates, when the “intent” of Congress was that such would not happen by “executive order” remember?

b.) The “State Exchanges” are an integral part of Obamcare, and many States will refuse to implement these exchanges on their own. Their really isn't a funding method to fund much of Obamacare without these “State Exchanges” is there? The “Default” program, the Fed program, has no funding vehicle. The House is not likely to provide such funding.

2.) GIVEN THE ABOVE, there is SLIM chance that the House Republicans have something up their sleeves. We can FOLLOW THE LAW, OBAMACARE IS THE LAW, and we can still stop much of what the libs want, BECAUSE THAT IS THE LAW!

64 posted on 11/08/2012 3:04:24 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: FlipWilson
Why couldn’t he have simply said, “until such time as we have the votes to repeal it, it is the law. I will continue to hope that one day we do have the votes but until such time, I am bound to obey the laws passed by congress, as disreputable as they may be.”

Yes, that would've been okay, too. Probably better.

My point above was just to let him acknowledge the truth....

65 posted on 11/08/2012 3:05:07 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: BlessingsofLiberty

As Obama says we don’t need no stinking law. F Boehner and the republican party.


66 posted on 11/08/2012 3:05:40 PM PST by boomop1 (term limits will only save this country.)
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To: Euro-American Scum

Yeah but prohibition is different. Obamacare will add millions upon millions of people to the government dependency.

Those people.. much like the Obamaphone lady will never give up those benefits and will fight tooth and nail to keep them.

And once they have those benefits anyone proposing to repeal Obamacare will be called heartless, racist, etc.


67 posted on 11/08/2012 3:05:53 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: SoFloFreeper

Nice try.

The House could have defunded it. They chose not to because of the storm that would follow. Oh, not over the law itself, but that Democrats would have attached it to something else considered politically untenable.

As to Romney...give me a break. His would be Chief of staff supported it and Romney refused to say he’d repeal all of it.

Republicans had no intention of following through. they were just hoping they could milk the issue toward another 2010 win. well, not enough people bought into the fairytale they constructed this time.


68 posted on 11/08/2012 3:06:08 PM PST by Soul Seeker (I will work every day to make Washington, D.C. as inconsequential in your lives as I can - Perry)
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To: skeeter
And I think there are a fair number of Obama voters, who didn't necessarily support his ridiculous health care reform, who need to understand what the consequences of their stupidity are.

That's what I'm talking about. Give them everything they want. ALL the corporations will move overseas.

69 posted on 11/08/2012 3:06:08 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Interesting times are turning into hellish times at quite a pace. Where will we be a month from now?


70 posted on 11/08/2012 3:06:13 PM PST by TBall
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To: COBOL2Java
<font size=100>SCREAMING MEMES GO HERE!</font>
71 posted on 11/08/2012 3:06:35 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: SoFloFreeper

To paraphrase Clint Eastwood, Boehner’s just not doing the job, and we’ve got let him go.

They need to elect Paul Ryan as the new speaker NOW.


72 posted on 11/08/2012 3:06:45 PM PST by diamond6 (Pray........pray very hard!!)
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To: ConservativeMan55
NOTHING is permanent.

That's what so many said about legalized abortion.

Many of them are dead now - old age.

You don't think private insurance companies will keep their doors open and wait for that day to come do you? There will be no other alternatives as time goes by. People will not trust such a big change.

Good luck with that now. Making abortion illegal will actually be easier. We missed our chance to repeal it on tuesday. We lost. It's hear to say.

73 posted on 11/08/2012 3:06:48 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: ConservativeMan55
I think we should repeal Boehner

Honestly, what do you expect him to say? Elections have consequences.

It was passed by the Senate and the House.
It was upheld by the Supreme Court.
The country voted the President who signed it back in for another four-year term.

That's it, as far as the legislature is concerned. At least for now.

There will be many consequences of this bill, and some of those can be litigated or legislated over. But the law is the law. We missed our last chance to stop it two days ago.

That's life.

74 posted on 11/08/2012 3:06:59 PM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: JerseyDvl
Is there anyway to install a new Speaker of the House or is it based on seniority?

Unlike the Senate (Majority Leader), the House Speaker need not be a current rep. If Boner is gonna keep acting boneheadish, and no current rep wants to step up to the plate, then they can elect a speaker from outside the house... Maybe Allen West, for example, while he fights his close election - someone like him would be a great speaker.

75 posted on 11/08/2012 3:07:06 PM PST by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: ConservativeMan55

Please consult your doctor if you experience a Boehner lasting more than four years as Speaker. It could be fatal to your health.


76 posted on 11/08/2012 3:08:00 PM PST by rfp1234
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To: mtnwmn
I think you are on to something. I was part of the march on DC with the Tea Party. There was enormous hope that by electing Reps and gaining control over at least the House, the Rep leadership would have seriously tried to cut government spending. They did nothing and spending actually increased.

Now we have the sequestration battle that will probably involve some nefarious bookkeeping without reducing spending. Hell, if we can't cut $100 billion a year out of a $3.7 trillion dollar annual budget for the next ten years, how the Hell are we ever going to cut spending?

77 posted on 11/08/2012 3:08:15 PM PST by kabar
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To: ScottinVA
I agree Boehner should be replaced for other reasons, but in this case, why?? We lost. Boehner is acknowledging the obvious. What`s he supposed to say?

I'll tell you what he should say. He should say "Mr. President, you may feel you have a mandate after this election but it pales next to the mandate you ignored when you rammed Obamacare down the American people's throat. It was a huge mandate, 70% of the people, and you didn't care.

And they still don't want it by much bigger margins that your election. So we'll honor that mandate and keep trying to stop Obamacare for the people, for the majority of American people.

78 posted on 11/08/2012 3:08:15 PM PST by Kenny (<p)
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To: Mamzelle

Precisely. There are consequences to an election. Frankly, I think Boehner is giving them exactly what they voted for, I’m loving it.


79 posted on 11/08/2012 3:08:30 PM PST by Toespi
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To: ConservativeMan55

Bump


80 posted on 11/08/2012 3:09:20 PM PST by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: ConservativeMan55

Such BS. 0-care defies the laws of economics which trumps any pronouncements by rinos or socialists. The states will have a lot to say about this issue by refusing to set up state exchanges.


81 posted on 11/08/2012 3:09:35 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: ConservativeMan55
OBAMACARE IS NOT FREE!

Geez LOUISE! Every reckoning, every estimate is that it's going to cost way more to add the people it's supposed to add, than if the government had just cut them a check for the premiums of normal health insurance as we know it now.

82 posted on 11/08/2012 3:09:57 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: WashingtonSource

Yes. I agree he could have said more...it is just that we needn’t bash him for stating the truth.

Boehner DID pass repeals. Obama and Reid and Pelosi are to blame for Obamacare.

And by the way: as more doctors flee (some have already testified to that fact on this thread), it will be a GREAT TIME for us to remind people about why it should be REPEALED.


83 posted on 11/08/2012 3:10:04 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Euro-American Scum
They said the same thing about Prohibition in 1928.

BIG difference between Prohibition and Healthcare.

Healthcare deals with people's lives.

We had our chance on tuesday. We lost. It's here to stay.

John Boehner needed to go years ago.

84 posted on 11/08/2012 3:10:15 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: BlessingsofLiberty

“Why attack Boehner? He fought Obama Care.”

You call this fighting?


85 posted on 11/08/2012 3:10:22 PM PST by ari-freedom (Election Day should be after Thanksgiving, not right after Halloween)
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To: All

Defund it.

Spending originates in the House. Republicans control the House and have for 2 years. Did they defund it? No? Then don’t tell me they couldn’t do anything. They never intended to get rid of it. When Boehner admits that, then you all go praise him for truth telling. Until then he’s just continuing to spin.


86 posted on 11/08/2012 3:10:56 PM PST by Soul Seeker (I will work every day to make Washington, D.C. as inconsequential in your lives as I can - Perry)
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To: Toespi

In a sense, yes. The Republicans won’t be left holding the bag when the train wreck happens (to shamefully mix a metaphor).


87 posted on 11/08/2012 3:11:08 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: PeevedPatriot

“DEFUND IT!

The House Republicans have already funded it longer than necessary. I think it’s March 2013 when a vote for continued funding is due. DEFUND it already!”

Exactly. They always have that power.

The thing I fear is sequestration. The Rats will hold the military funding hostage until Obamacare is funded.

Still, we can not bend over and let them ram us from behind. We’ve got to use what little power we have to at least leverage SOMETHING out of this.

Quit being weenies!


88 posted on 11/08/2012 3:11:19 PM PST by diamond6 (Pray........pray very hard!!)
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To: ConservativeMan55

I miss Newt
89 posted on 11/08/2012 3:11:57 PM PST by ari-freedom (Election Day should be after Thanksgiving, not right after Halloween)
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To: tsowellfan

Won’t it be funny if Americans end up going to CANADA for important health care?


90 posted on 11/08/2012 3:11:57 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: kabar

http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/07/boehner-to-obama-this-is-your-moment-we-want-you-to-succeed/


91 posted on 11/08/2012 3:13:09 PM PST by freedommom
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To: diamond6
The Rats will hold the military funding hostage until Obamacare is funded.

And so let them do that. Get Obama's drones out of Afghanistan. Let him go totally peacenik. Let's see what happens.

92 posted on 11/08/2012 3:13:27 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: ConservativeMan55

. According to Jefferson’s Manual, a 19th century procedural manual that has been largely incorporated into the House Rules:

A Speaker may be removed at the will of the House, and a Speaker pro tempore appointed.

A resolution declaring the Office of Speaker vacant presents a question of constitutional privilege, though the House has never removed a Speaker. It has on several occasions removed or suspended other officers, such as Clerk and Doorkeeper. A resolution for the removal of an officer is presented as a matter of privilege.

There is, however, a catch. Speaker Boehner may presently be the highest ranking Republican in Congress, but speakers are elected by the entire House — not simply the majority party. A resolution removing Speaker Boehner — most likely because of a Tea Party revolt seeking to replace him with someone even further to the right — would require either overwhelming support in Boehner’s own caucus or collusion with the Democrats.


93 posted on 11/08/2012 3:14:04 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: freedommom

Hey, they’re all politicians on Mt. Olympus where even bitter rival gods cavort with one another.


94 posted on 11/08/2012 3:14:28 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Bonehead needs to have his nuts cut off — assuming he has any, and he can be the 1st patient


95 posted on 11/08/2012 3:15:06 PM PST by gemoftheocean (...geez, this all seems so straight forward and logical to me...)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Thank you! Even though I was kinda being sarcastic. lol

BUT I do need to know more code for this place.


96 posted on 11/08/2012 3:15:08 PM PST by snarkytart
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yup. Only way to stop it now is in the courts but it NEEDS to be done now.

John Boehner is right with this statement. But he’s still USELESS and NEEDS TO GO. He’s been a disaster!


97 posted on 11/08/2012 3:15:39 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: SoFloFreeper

Simple solution:

DEFUND IT.

All spending originates in the House.

Boehner is the Speaker of said House.

WHY IS HE NOT PURSUING THIS TO KILL THIS MONSTROSITY?


98 posted on 11/08/2012 3:16:02 PM PST by jstolzen (All it takes for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke)
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To: kabar
Hell, if we can't cut $100 billion a year out of a $3.7 trillion dollar annual budget for the next ten years, how the Hell are we ever going to cut spending?

We aren't. Game Over. The country has changed. It is no longer a christian Republic, it is a godless Democracy, with factions vying for a piece of the pie. I say if you can't beat' em. Join 'em. Raise taxes, raise corporate taxes, open the borders, just let Obama have everything he wants. Don't fight a single bill. They won't know what the hell to do if we stop opposing them. Then when it all turns south, which it will eventually anyway, they will be in the pilot's seat.

99 posted on 11/08/2012 3:16:53 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: Toespi
Precisely. There are consequences to an election. Frankly, I think Boehner is giving them exactly what they voted for, I’m loving it.

You and I are on the same page...give them everything they want. They will be flummoxed if we stop fighting. Maybe they will actually do something responsible for once.

100 posted on 11/08/2012 3:18:30 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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