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America, A Quaint Memory....
Original Content | Nov 9, 2012 | By Laz A. Mataz

Posted on 11/09/2012 12:39:44 AM PST by Lazamataz

It appears the America I knew and loved will be a quaint memory.

By whatever means, the forces of the extreme left have undertaken, and apparently succeeded, in performing the coup de grace on a staggering nation.

The causes of their Presidential election-year victory are many. They include:

Fraud helped tip this election. While it is entertaining to think of ways to unseat the benefiters of such fraud, it is not likely to happen. The fraudulent results shall stand. And, the fraud will snowball, as those who benefit from the fraud make sure no laws can be enacted to prevent fraud. It will increase, and it does not appear there is any recourse to stop it.

Demographics helped tip this election. This is another unrelenting trend. Single mothers will not lessen any time soon, and these women tend to view government as a caretaker -- and so they look to Democrats. There is talk in the Republican camp of loosening immigration standards and, probably, amnesty for illegal aliens. Therefore, we will continue to see an inexorable rise in the number of Latinos in America. I say this without judgment, but merely as an observation. However, they vote predominantly Democrat.

And as our students are relentlessly taught morals and values that the extreme left holds dear, the adults who will stand by our side, and eventually replace us, will continue to add to the numbers of the extreme left citizenry.

What can we expect?

  1. A Republican party who, pointlessly, will shift far to the left. They will not capture any more votes than the Democrats, of course. But they will try.

  2. No more Republican Presidents, ever. George W. Bush is very likely the last Republican President you will see in your adult lifetimes.

  3. Congressmen and Senators will be increasingly Democrat, until, as in California, there will be a supermajority in both Houses of Congress. In short, American politics will become a single-party affair.

  4. Firearms ownership will be drastically curtailed, via a UN Treaty that will subvert, if not supercede, our Second Amendment. The world looks at America as an oddball, and the world wants our guns gone.

  5. We will be increasingly Socialist/Communist. Socialism and especially Communism destroys innovation, strips hope, and makes poverty universal.

I, your humble author, wish I had better news. I wish I had a solution to all this. I don't. Perhaps someone smarter than I can come up with an idea.

I will mention this: The solution must be Gramscian in nature, that would allow us to slowly subvert the forces of Marxism. Gramsci was a Marxist himself, and he came up with the concept of a 'political society' (which rules through force) and a 'civil society' (which rules through consent). The Marxists understood this and realized that the most powerful ideological shifts can only come by the will of the people. The failures of Nazi Germany and the USSR generally show the Marxists that force is a poor substitute for civil will. It should show us the same.

There are those among us I hear speaking of a complete collapse of the US economy as a solution -- a reset button, if you will. Does anyone seriously believe that a government that would follow would be MORE like the America of liberty and free enterprise that we yearn for? Remember, the citizenry (with great voter fraud help) voted Obama back into office after a miserable four-year leftist performance. Even without the voter fraud, there still remains fully half of America that holds the ideals of the left as sacrosanct. We can dismiss the 'reset button' idea as impractical and unlikely to achieve our goals.

Any solution we undertake will be and must be, multi-generational. We will not live to see its fruits. There must be a meeting of great minds to start determining a long term course that will help return our land to the liberty and the love of free enterprise we once had.

I do have some good news. It appears that the left is not choosing to kill its enemies, at least not yet. I hope they continue to remain nonviolent. If they have studied Gramsci well, they probably will remain nonviolent. Political force is ultimately self-defeating.

If that remains the case, we can still pursue our lives. We can raise our children, marry, laugh, love and honor our God, and enjoy and build the best life we can, albeit at a lower standard of living than we have had. I recommend that, while still searching for a solution to these issues, each and every one of you do this very thing. We have no control over the nation, ultimately (though we can impart our small spin) so enjoy your life to the fullest!


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To: Lazamataz

“America, A Quaint Memory....”

And it happened so quickly.


101 posted on 11/09/2012 4:50:49 AM PST by kenmcg (t)
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To: Lazamataz

You make the point of them having 50 years of experience in the War on Drugs.

My point is that despite that fact, drugs are ubiquitous.

Making guns and ammo illegal will only take them off the store shelves and into the trunk of someone’s car or the back of a van.


102 posted on 11/09/2012 4:52:03 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Lazamataz
"Can you cite the de Tocqueville prediction? It would save me the lookup, and enrich this thread."

Mais certainment, avec plaisir ...

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.” ― Alexis de Tocqueville

103 posted on 11/09/2012 4:53:05 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Own It.)
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To: Travis McGee

That is, indeed, the short term. I will be required to stay relatively close to a blue zone in a very red state, for work purposes. But, given the need to escape, I have a friend who will welcome me in the more rural regions.


104 posted on 11/09/2012 4:53:11 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Travis McGee

That is, indeed, the short term. I will be required to stay relatively close to a blue zone in a very red state, for work purposes. But, given the need to escape, I have a friend who will welcome me in the more rural regions.


105 posted on 11/09/2012 4:55:21 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz

Yeah, you don’t want to be around when Hurricane Rwanda smashes into Superstorm Bosnia.


106 posted on 11/09/2012 5:13:20 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: StAnDeliver

I’m pretty sure that’s a bogus internet quote, but no matter, it’s probably close enough to his thoughts.


107 posted on 11/09/2012 5:14:37 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Lazamataz; Jim Robinson; All
Folks, let me give a little analysis here...

Yes, the O-bomination is fully upon us, but even in the wreck of a defeat, there are things we can salvage.

Jim, while I agree that the economy is in ruins, it is NOT destroyed yet. The wheels of commerce and capitalism grind on - albeit slowly. Yes, the apparatus is in place to destroy it, but the machine is not in gear yet. We can interrupt it before the double-clutch comes - IF we display resolve to reverse it, unlike our current leadership.

Next point is, the Left has displayed their one important, maybe fatal flaw: HASTE. Let me illustrate:

Look back to early 2007. Newly anointed Speaker Pelosi, barely days in power, corners GWB in the White House. It's easy to divine what was said to Bush: "You have 24 hours to fire Rumsfeld or the impeachment proceedings start." The very next day, Rumsfeld "tenders his resignation".

Fast-forward to 2009. The Leftists, giddy over the realization that they fully hold the reins of power, go into overdrive to implement the O-bomination. Why the urgency? Hindsight shows us that they lost their momentum the very next election cycle, with the rise of the Tea Party insurgency. Now it wasn't that they knew the Right would rise against them; it was that they couldn't wait to start the machine.

Gaze back again to 1991. The worst calamity to the Left (the fall of Soviet Russia), plus the 1994 drubbing, set them back a generation. But back then, they were still led by old Leftists who learned one thing from their ideological sisters in Russia and China: patience. They fell back on their core groups - the unions, the teachers, the media - to reshape the battlefield and play the long game.

But that's not who's in charge now. The new Leftists are the product of the instant-gratification generation. They want it NOW, without the patience of their elders.

And that leads us to Odinga and the Chicago Way. Because the Chicago Way produces immediate results; it's in-your-face activism, perfect for a generation of snot-nosed rebellious youths who are conditioned to have everything on demand.

You see now how the rapid rise of the Left was facilitated, and you can also see the effects of this mindset. Not even 48 hours after the election returns, Odinga announces revisiting the UN gun grab. At almost the same hour, Feinstein out in Cali announces a proposal to ban ALL semi-automatic weapons, rifle and handgun alike. These are yet more examples of their haste. They can't resist jumping the starter's pistol in their race to start the machine.

It's as predictable as handing a SigSauer to a Crip: you KNOW the thug can't wait to use his new toy.

Folks, we can use our enemy's haste to our advantage. They are flushed with overconfidence, and that will be their tripping point. We simply need to adopt the trait that the old-school Marxists failed to instill in their progeny.

We need to be patient. We need to rebuild, watch... and prepare.

108 posted on 11/09/2012 5:30:04 AM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Lazamataz

A Humble Prognostication

Economic catastrophe starting about 2015
We have only seen a whisper of this
Entrepreneurs cease to Build Businesses, Jobs disappear
Distribution Channels Collapse
Health Care drops to level of Frontier Medicine

Government responds by Killing Self Love
and replacing it with Fear

About 20,000,000 deaths in US alone
possible as much as 1/3 population
Widespread suffering, starvation, pestilence
Cities will be death traps

The only thing to prevent it was to
permit a lesser catastrophe
But the cards are dealt now

Be Kind One to Another
Tenderhearted, Forgiving One Another

Do Justly, Love Mercy, Walk Humbly

Live in Christ


109 posted on 11/09/2012 5:44:41 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: Lazamataz

Two things:

1. I believe the polls were correct. I think there really was a huge turnout for Romney and it was blocked with fraud. We must get to the bottom of that first and foremost. The Allen West thing is a start.

2. The two biggest losers Tuesday were Joe Biden and Andrew Coumo. They will never be President. The democrat party will never again run a white male for president.


110 posted on 11/09/2012 5:59:18 AM PST by PeteyBoy (The fence--Build it and they won't come!)
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To: Democrat_media; Lazamataz; All; TheSarce
Scotland is voting to be independent of Britain. So why can't we have on our ballots for each state the right to vote for independence(secession)? Many of us in states voted for several amendments. Why can't we vote for independence?

I LIKE IT! If hundreds of thousands of freepers would contact their State Rep & Sentator and really talk about this, the middle America (fly-over) could get along REALLY WELL without east and west coast.

111 posted on 11/09/2012 6:05:30 AM PST by The Bat Lady (Volunteer at your county elections to count military & mail in ballots)
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To: Lazamataz

I think you’re wrong about they won’t start killing their perceived enemeis. (ie. “us”)


112 posted on 11/09/2012 6:07:42 AM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Lazamataz

Very well thought out but extremely bleak, Laz. Thank God I reside in Texas, where, though we have more than our fair share of illegals, we still have an economy that is perking along...and a governor that won’t let the feds horn in on it if he can possibly prevent it. We have jobs and NO state income tax unless the dims take over here next cycle, which they keep hinting out in our local paper.

I find that politics are very distasteful to me after seeing the shenanigans that went on during this past election. I think I’m all about puppies and kittens from now on. :)

I don’t want my head to completely explode.


113 posted on 11/09/2012 6:15:31 AM PST by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: Lazamataz; Old Sarge; LibLieSlayer
We, the elders, will suffer most from Bammy and Co. The young are being co-opted daily, with promises of Unicorns and free phones. The biggest threat to elders are the massive printing presses, making the dollar begin to swirl.

They started their goal with the "crazy money" SSI's and accelerated with their QE's. The US Treasury owes the US Treasury??? China isn't the biggest threat or problem, BUT, they could be part of a solution.

I have posted many pics from the Zimbabwe spiral, and that is where we are going.

Sell all you can sell, move to a fertile ground, and go Galt. Truckers could park their rigs, or just take care of local needs. Lower income and begin 'taking' in every way possible. Set up tax free's and let them expense the needs of the "community", while no longer "feeding the beast". You can't tax what you can't see!

Personally, I am planning to move to the Philippines after Christmas. I have begun divesting hard assets and will be happy to fish and play for the rest of my life. I have skills to offer, if needed, and can contribute in any community.

Laz, thanks for your thoughts. Once again, you have nailed our collective consciousness (and conscience!!!)!


114 posted on 11/09/2012 6:16:06 AM PST by WVKayaker ("Mitt Romney couldn't keep up with lies and spin of Barack Obama" - Sarah Palin 10/24)
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To: Brad's Gramma

I never gave them one damn cent this time. I sent a small contribution to a candidate that I supported till he got ousted by the one we ran with and that’s IT.

I think money (or the lack thereof) is the key to turning them. It’s what they understand. It’s ALL they understand.


115 posted on 11/09/2012 6:21:18 AM PST by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: Lazamataz; Brad's Gramma; Colonel_Flagg; TheOldLady; onyx; All

What's really important!

116 posted on 11/09/2012 6:35:21 AM PST by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: Lazamataz

I have read “The Book” and know how the story ends....the good guys win.

That is one ray of hope in this cold, dark world.

I agree with your plan, we need a 100 year plan, like the Chinese...a campaign plan with strategic objectives and shorter tactical goals and objectives.

Pray, Prepare, keep your head on a swivel.


117 posted on 11/09/2012 6:45:08 AM PST by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet.)
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To: PeteyBoy
1. I believe the polls were correct. I think there really was a huge turnout for Romney and it was blocked with fraud. We must get to the bottom of that first and foremost. The Allen West thing is a start.

You can wake up from this dream right now. Investigate voter fraud? My gawd, they won't even investigate what amounts to the deliberate abandonment of our people in Benghazi! Boehner (spit!) has already bent over and held out the vaseline jar ("This is your moment, Mr. President"). He's wagging his tail, lolling his tongue, just a happy little bitch waiting for his master's command. Investigate voter fraud? It is to laugh... and cry.

2. The two biggest losers Tuesday were Joe Biden and Andrew Coumo. They will never be President. The democrat party will never again run a white male for president.

You are right on that score.

118 posted on 11/09/2012 6:47:02 AM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: PeteyBoy
1. I believe the polls were correct. I think there really was a huge turnout for Romney and it was blocked with fraud. We must get to the bottom of that first and foremost. The Allen West thing is a start.

I also believe there was an unprecedented level of voter fraud, and I believe that this marks the end of fair elections in America.

Four points, which will become its own essay, two of which were observed first by Travis McGee (hat tip)

  1. I do not believe the fraud was the creation of Democrat votes, though there were some there. I believe the fraud was the ELIMINATION of Republican votes.

  2. What informs me of this are several items: A) You cannot tell me Republicans turned out in LOWER numbers than they did in 2008. No way. Not with the energy surrounding Romney and Ryan. B) Obama was likely unaware of the machinations, and had a dour "I'm going to lose" expression on his face for most of the last 2 months of the election season.

    In short, he did not build this win. Someone else made it happen.

  3. With the new fraud engine in place, we will NOT see a repeat of 2010. In fact, Obama's cronies will pick up quite a few seats in Congress and the Senate in 2014.

  4. Michelle Obama will run in 2016 and 2020 and win handily both times.

119 posted on 11/09/2012 6:49:40 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz

I believe what you are saying is, don’t spend your life shoveling sand against the tide when you can be enjoying the sun on the beach. I dig it.


120 posted on 11/09/2012 6:50:26 AM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Lazamataz
..brilliant,as usual--enjoyed your commentary for four election cycles

I see the root as to why things went wrong as spiritual not political. We had plenty of warnings.

This may get me banned, but I see the possibility of civil war coming. As I told a family member in Texas, perhaps the only solution is a Second Confederacy--this time they are in the right. That would be a great Tom Clancy novel.

Again, thank you and until they come and take us away--don't hold the mayo...

121 posted on 11/09/2012 6:51:29 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: LUV W

Little red x’s are important, I will grant you that.


122 posted on 11/09/2012 6:51:37 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz

I say Long “Live our Republic” out of Respect for what she once was. I hate to think of her as dead.

Ok fine; it was hastily put together but I still find a lot of good nuggets in there.

I wonder sometimes If I will be like Jeb’s Dad in Red Dawn Yelling from Behind the Fence?

“AVENGE ME GIRLS AVENGE ME!!!”

Since I don’t have boys it will be up to my Daughters.


123 posted on 11/09/2012 6:52:39 AM PST by Rightly Biased (How do you say Arkanicide in Kenyan?)
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To: WalterSkinner; Travis McGee
..brilliant,as usual--enjoyed your commentary for four election cycles

Why aren't you on my ping list?

This may get me banned, but I see the possibility of civil war coming. As I told a family member in Texas, perhaps the only solution is a Second Confederacy--this time they are in the right. That would be a great Tom Clancy novel.

Civil war, no. Civil unrest, yes. We are far too 'marbled' for sides to emerge, other than the CW2 Cube that Travis McGee brilliantly explains.

124 posted on 11/09/2012 6:57:36 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Irenic

[Some people were suggesting that conservatives move to red states...]

The trend we are seeing is liberals are migrating to red states to escape the crushing laws enacted by the politicians they elected.

It happened here in SC and is still happening, it’s how we got the likes of Leslie Graham. However, there may be a ray of optimism in this trend.

Things will become worse in the coming years and these liberals will realize, there is no state left to run to anymore because they have corrupted them all.

It’s then and only then that they will being saying to themselves...’what have we done’?


125 posted on 11/09/2012 7:00:45 AM PST by RetSignman ("A Republic if you can keep it"....)
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To: RetSignman
Things will become worse in the coming years and these liberals will realize, there is no state left to run to anymore because they have corrupted them all. It’s then and only then that they will being saying to themselves...’what have we done’?

You clearly don't understand liberals. When they fail, they double down. Gun control doesn't work? DO IT MORE.

So, when liberalism is shown to fail, they will simply go more communist.

126 posted on 11/09/2012 7:06:26 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz

“I believe the fraud was the ELIMINATION of Republican votes.”

Roger that....also don’t forget the elimination of the military vote. Absentee ballots lost, delayed, etc.

Someone said that the military went half and half for PREZBO....I do not buy that for one second, if true, it is only due to the loss of most military ballots.


127 posted on 11/09/2012 7:06:46 AM PST by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet.)
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To: spodefly
I believe what you are saying is, don’t spend your life shoveling sand against the tide when you can be enjoying the sun on the beach. I dig it.

That, to an extent, but also be prepared to run from the tsunami, because that is coming too.

128 posted on 11/09/2012 7:08:14 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Travis McGee
Trav, you've said you don't believe that a Gramscian plan is reasonable at this point. You've pointed to the CW2 as the reason why, stating that it would be like the Czar and his advocates planning a long term solution while Lenin's troops came.

While I agree with that point on some levels, we are not one individual or small group, we are legion. I'd have to correct your thesis to 'it would be like one-half of Russia planning a long term solution while Lenin's troops came for the Czar.' Eventually, communism collapsed, and if they had some form of long term planning, they might have transitioned to democracy.

Hold on though. I see a hole in my argument. The system Lenin put in place was closed, if you had any liberty leanings you were removed, often gulaged. Our system was open, and communists could infiltrate with impunity.

I guess our sysem of openness is weaker. It allows the left to infiltrate, whereas leftist systems crush out any infiltrators.

129 posted on 11/09/2012 7:17:53 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: little jeremiah

[I think you’re wrong about they won’t start killing their perceived enemies...]

I agree, remember Waco?


130 posted on 11/09/2012 7:19:04 AM PST by RetSignman ("A Republic if you can keep it"....)
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To: Travis McGee

Here’s somewhat of a history of attributions on that quote:

http://www.lorencollins.net/tytler.html

Brief summary - “nobody knows”.


131 posted on 11/09/2012 7:20:38 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Lazamataz

It shows up for me. :(


132 posted on 11/09/2012 7:26:23 AM PST by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: Travis McGee
I’m pretty sure that’s a bogus internet quote, but no matter, it’s probably close enough to his thoughts.

"The worst part of the internet is that you cannot trust that some historical figure's quote is actually true." -- Abraham Lincoln, 1927

133 posted on 11/09/2012 7:32:38 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Democrat_media

“So why can’t we have on our ballots for each state the right to vote for independence(secession)?”

When Texas joined the union, it kept the right to secede. I don’t think any other state has that right, but I could be wrong about that.


134 posted on 11/09/2012 7:41:16 AM PST by Marcella (“When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic)
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To: Jim Robinson

“Solution? Don’t run RINOs.”

Your four words state it exactly.


135 posted on 11/09/2012 7:50:11 AM PST by Marcella (“When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic)
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To: Lazamataz

[You clearly don’t understand liberals...]

Oh, I understand them alright, Laz but even they don’t see that they are nothing more than ‘tools’ being used by a communist agenda.

When the time comes when they are no longer needed they all will disappear along with the complicit media, black ‘leaders’, RINO’s, all newspaper media, Congress, (the new Politburo).

You can say, I CLEARLY don’t understand liberals, I expected that, but I do CLEARLY understand what can happen when we rely on our weak, fearful republicans who are more concerned about building on their pensions than protecting the Constitution.

When it’s time when THEIR oxes are gored, their simpering and anguish wailing will never be heard.


136 posted on 11/09/2012 8:01:28 AM PST by RetSignman ("A Republic if you can keep it"....)
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To: Lazamataz

Laz

Chiming in late here. I agree with what you wrote. We have clearly passed the tipping point to socialism. My brother thought we had passed it several years ago. I knew the floodgates were creaking in 2000 when Bush narrowly beat Gore, and we managed to stave it of one last time in 2004 when the dems ran an unlikeable arrogant prick in Kerry. This was despite what I thought was the media’s best efforts to win the election. But now, it is clear that conservatism, as a national political philosophy, is dead.

Three things have all come together to kill conservatism. First, the American public has been dumbed down and conditioned to expect government to do everything for them, including doing their thinking. The takers outnumber the makers and the demographics have irretrievably shifted. Second, the media, which always leaned left, now knows that there is no accountability and they are openly agitating and propagandizing for the left. Third, because of both of the above, the left knows they can steal any election they want.

The GOP will be allowed to exist for a while as window-dressing. The left needs a convenient boogeyman while it cements its final control over the nation. But yes, it’s over.

I have voted in my last national election. It does not matter any more. For the time being, I live in a “red” state and will still vote in state and local elections. However, it is only a matter of time before the left begins the purge here, too.

So like you, I will hold my family and my Lord close. I will not cooperate with the statists to the extent possible. I will not fly the flag. I will not go watch “Red Dawn”. If the Chines or whoever invade, let them. I no longer have a country to fight for. It was already conquered from within so what do I care who it is that seeks to oppress me?


137 posted on 11/09/2012 8:24:33 AM PST by henkster (If you let them do it to you, you got yourself to blame.)
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To: Lazamataz
"Early voting gave Dems weeks to ship low info voters to polls." - Dan Gainor (Media Research Council)
138 posted on 11/09/2012 8:25:25 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Own It.)
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To: Lazamataz; Travis McGee

Whether it’s Tytler or de Tocqueville hardly disturbs the essential truth of the quote...


139 posted on 11/09/2012 8:28:14 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Own It.)
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To: Jim Robinson; Lazamataz
“The squish lost because he could not enthuse his base. Karl Rove, FOX News and the GOP-e ignored the tea party base (hell, kicked us in the teeth)...”

I don't think moderate Republicans realize what happened at the national convention. Those at a national convention are the top workers with the most influence in their state as regard to Party politics. These are active movers and shakers.

When Romney, his attorney, Sununu, and the national chairman, illegally called a vote passed on a rule that stripped conservatives from being delegates in the future and gave Romney the right to dump them and choose his own, conservatives howled on the floor of the convention but they were ignored.

From that moment on, Romney was toast but he was too dense to know it. He has pushed people around in business and thought he could do that with the Party. The mover and shaker conservatives went home and talked. Romney lost.

140 posted on 11/09/2012 8:29:42 AM PST by Marcella (“When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic)
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To: Lazamataz

I thought I’d be over it by now, but I’m still grieving, albeit without the wholesale sobbing that was going on earlier in the week. I felt better last night, but then I got a look at what would’ve been the website for Romney’s transition, and it killed me all over again.

Thanks especially for your last paragraph, Laz. My husband said something very similar, and I’m trying to hang onto it. God IS completely in control, and I am going to focus on Him, family, friends, home, and my FR family.


141 posted on 11/09/2012 8:31:51 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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To: Lazamataz
Larry, if those who will not sign on to the socialist model of oppressive federal oligarchy will raise their children to be more self-reliant and do their best to close OUT the debauchery onslaught from Hollyweird and TV, and home school their children, then a more virtuous people will rise up in the midst of the debauched democrat socialist society and become the light to many who haven't a clue but love their children. It is an internal flux which can save America, but which is very hard to define in sound-byte communication.

Sting had a song titled 'I Hope The Russians Love Their Children too', IIRC. We can hope the liberals love their children too, and that as the society becomes more and more cancerous at least some of these progressive fools will awaken to see the destruction they are endorsing which is destroying their children. But we can only accomplish it through example, because one of the hallmarks of liberals and leftists is that they have closed minds so rhetoric has no chance of awakening such dead souls.

142 posted on 11/09/2012 10:12:56 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Lazamataz
Here is the quote: “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.” ― Alexis de Tocqueville
143 posted on 11/09/2012 10:22:07 AM PST by Marcella (“When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic)
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To: Lazamataz
That, to an extent, but also be prepared to run from the tsunami, because that is coming too.

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. And pray.

144 posted on 11/09/2012 10:32:55 AM PST by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
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To: Travis McGee; Jim Robinson; humblegunner; All
“Maybe we old whites should all “go Galt” to the max possible, and not pull the wagon any more. “Your turn. Good luck.” And move away from the predictably dangerous urban conflict zones, into deep red counties in deep red states. That CW2 Cube thing.”

Already there - am in Montgomery County in Texas, the most Republican county per capita in Texas - at least 95% Republican. Getting close to 400,000 in the county but the county is very large, lots of rural area as well as small towns. Our Republican office stays open all year, not just when there is an election.

There is a diversity of people here - from middle income to rich. Every election, state office candidates come here for money and exposure. Same for federal candidates - coming for money and to get their message out. Eric Cantor was here a few months ago. Palin and Cruz (now US senator elect) were here together a few days before the primary.

That was during the Chick-Fil-A thing and Palin and husband were photographed at one of our stores here while getting their chicken.

There is no place better to live than this county. Every office holder is a Republican. We like guns in this county and there is a shooting range about 3-4 miles from me.

There are regular gun shows in a convention center type building every so many months and it's always packed.

Medical services are excellent here and since we are about 60 miles north of Houston, a more serious disease can be treated there in the Houston Medical Center - among the best in the world.

If you are in a blue state and want a red state in which to live, Texas, come to the most extreme red county in Texas, Montgomery. I think Humblegunner lives somewhere in this area, but don't know his exact area.

145 posted on 11/09/2012 10:44:31 AM PST by Marcella (“When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic)
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To: Marcella
I think Humblegunner lives somewhere in this area, but don't know his exact area.

I live right at that magical spot where EMC, Harris & Liberty meet.

I'm in the last little bit of Harris, by virtue of zipcode.

Wouldn't trade it for the world.

146 posted on 11/09/2012 11:01:31 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: Marcella

No, we reserved the right to divide into five separate states. I don’t really want to weaken Texas that way.

Regardless, our rights come from God not the Union. So if it comes to secession, we have the right to claim it. Whether or not the Union would allow us to secede without violence is another story.


147 posted on 11/09/2012 12:00:22 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan
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To: humblegunner; Jim Robinson
“I live right at that magical spot where EMC, Harris & Liberty meet.”

Okay, I know where you are, not far from me (zip down my east 105 to Cleveland and find the tri county meeting spot from there. I was in Liberty County a lot giving election law seminars every primary for a number of years - did that in Cleveland, town of Liberty, and Beaumont. I lived in San Jacinto County for a number of years before I came to Montgomery County.

I think we are in a good place to weather whatever happens.

Now, if we could just get Jim R. to move here....

148 posted on 11/09/2012 12:08:54 PM PST by Marcella (“When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic)
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149 posted on 11/09/2012 12:39:36 PM PST by Brads Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: Marcella; Jim Robinson
I think we are in a good place to weather whatever happens.

Hard to think of a better place...

150 posted on 11/09/2012 1:50:54 PM PST by humblegunner
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