Posted on 11/09/2012 12:39:44 AM PST by Lazamataz
I see the root as to why things went wrong as spiritual not political. We had plenty of warnings.
This may get me banned, but I see the possibility of civil war coming. As I told a family member in Texas, perhaps the only solution is a Second Confederacy--this time they are in the right. That would be a great Tom Clancy novel.
Again, thank you and until they come and take us away--don't hold the mayo...
Little red x’s are important, I will grant you that.
I say Long “Live our Republic” out of Respect for what she once was. I hate to think of her as dead.
Ok fine; it was hastily put together but I still find a lot of good nuggets in there.
I wonder sometimes If I will be like Jeb’s Dad in Red Dawn Yelling from Behind the Fence?
“AVENGE ME GIRLS AVENGE ME!!!”
Since I don’t have boys it will be up to my Daughters.
Why aren't you on my ping list?
This may get me banned, but I see the possibility of civil war coming. As I told a family member in Texas, perhaps the only solution is a Second Confederacy--this time they are in the right. That would be a great Tom Clancy novel.
Civil war, no. Civil unrest, yes. We are far too 'marbled' for sides to emerge, other than the CW2 Cube that Travis McGee brilliantly explains.
[Some people were suggesting that conservatives move to red states...]
The trend we are seeing is liberals are migrating to red states to escape the crushing laws enacted by the politicians they elected.
It happened here in SC and is still happening, it’s how we got the likes of Leslie Graham. However, there may be a ray of optimism in this trend.
Things will become worse in the coming years and these liberals will realize, there is no state left to run to anymore because they have corrupted them all.
It’s then and only then that they will being saying to themselves...’what have we done’?
You clearly don't understand liberals. When they fail, they double down. Gun control doesn't work? DO IT MORE.
So, when liberalism is shown to fail, they will simply go more communist.
“I believe the fraud was the ELIMINATION of Republican votes.”
Roger that....also don’t forget the elimination of the military vote. Absentee ballots lost, delayed, etc.
Someone said that the military went half and half for PREZBO....I do not buy that for one second, if true, it is only due to the loss of most military ballots.
That, to an extent, but also be prepared to run from the tsunami, because that is coming too.
While I agree with that point on some levels, we are not one individual or small group, we are legion. I'd have to correct your thesis to 'it would be like one-half of Russia planning a long term solution while Lenin's troops came for the Czar.' Eventually, communism collapsed, and if they had some form of long term planning, they might have transitioned to democracy.
Hold on though. I see a hole in my argument. The system Lenin put in place was closed, if you had any liberty leanings you were removed, often gulaged. Our system was open, and communists could infiltrate with impunity.
I guess our sysem of openness is weaker. It allows the left to infiltrate, whereas leftist systems crush out any infiltrators.
[I think you’re wrong about they won’t start killing their perceived enemies...]
I agree, remember Waco?
Here’s somewhat of a history of attributions on that quote:
http://www.lorencollins.net/tytler.html
Brief summary - “nobody knows”.
It shows up for me. :(
"The worst part of the internet is that you cannot trust that some historical figure's quote is actually true." -- Abraham Lincoln, 1927
“So why can’t we have on our ballots for each state the right to vote for independence(secession)?”
When Texas joined the union, it kept the right to secede. I don’t think any other state has that right, but I could be wrong about that.
“Solution? Don’t run RINOs.”
Your four words state it exactly.
[You clearly don’t understand liberals...]
Oh, I understand them alright, Laz but even they don’t see that they are nothing more than ‘tools’ being used by a communist agenda.
When the time comes when they are no longer needed they all will disappear along with the complicit media, black ‘leaders’, RINO’s, all newspaper media, Congress, (the new Politburo).
You can say, I CLEARLY don’t understand liberals, I expected that, but I do CLEARLY understand what can happen when we rely on our weak, fearful republicans who are more concerned about building on their pensions than protecting the Constitution.
When it’s time when THEIR oxes are gored, their simpering and anguish wailing will never be heard.
Laz
Chiming in late here. I agree with what you wrote. We have clearly passed the tipping point to socialism. My brother thought we had passed it several years ago. I knew the floodgates were creaking in 2000 when Bush narrowly beat Gore, and we managed to stave it of one last time in 2004 when the dems ran an unlikeable arrogant prick in Kerry. This was despite what I thought was the media’s best efforts to win the election. But now, it is clear that conservatism, as a national political philosophy, is dead.
Three things have all come together to kill conservatism. First, the American public has been dumbed down and conditioned to expect government to do everything for them, including doing their thinking. The takers outnumber the makers and the demographics have irretrievably shifted. Second, the media, which always leaned left, now knows that there is no accountability and they are openly agitating and propagandizing for the left. Third, because of both of the above, the left knows they can steal any election they want.
The GOP will be allowed to exist for a while as window-dressing. The left needs a convenient boogeyman while it cements its final control over the nation. But yes, it’s over.
I have voted in my last national election. It does not matter any more. For the time being, I live in a “red” state and will still vote in state and local elections. However, it is only a matter of time before the left begins the purge here, too.
So like you, I will hold my family and my Lord close. I will not cooperate with the statists to the extent possible. I will not fly the flag. I will not go watch “Red Dawn”. If the Chines or whoever invade, let them. I no longer have a country to fight for. It was already conquered from within so what do I care who it is that seeks to oppress me?
Whether it’s Tytler or de Tocqueville hardly disturbs the essential truth of the quote...
I don't think moderate Republicans realize what happened at the national convention. Those at a national convention are the top workers with the most influence in their state as regard to Party politics. These are active movers and shakers.
When Romney, his attorney, Sununu, and the national chairman, illegally called a vote passed on a rule that stripped conservatives from being delegates in the future and gave Romney the right to dump them and choose his own, conservatives howled on the floor of the convention but they were ignored.
From that moment on, Romney was toast but he was too dense to know it. He has pushed people around in business and thought he could do that with the Party. The mover and shaker conservatives went home and talked. Romney lost.
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