Skip to comments.Could Romney run in 2016, following Nixon's example? (vanity)
Posted on 11/09/2012 4:38:36 AM PST by Zhang Fei
(Putting on my flak jacket). Let me say that I'm no fan of Romney's politics, but the guy ran a decent campaign, and he appeals to swing voters in a way that Santorum and Palin cannot. And let's face it - what's he going to do with the rest of his life? If there's one thing he's got, it's time and money. He can learn from his mistakes, just as Nixon learned from his, and perhaps lead the GOP to victory in 2016.
See "Gore, Albert" and "2000 Election" as an additional illustration of how this worked from the other side. That guy was running as the incumbent vice president under Bill Clinton, and he had so thoroughly sold his soul in politics that he couldn't even carry his home state (Tennessee), or even Clinton's home state of Arkansas.
Maybe BO’s unthinking suppporters will be so chaotic in their failure at individualism by then, a conservative will be able to wald in, fix it with order and a compliant House, Senate and tired failed out of money electorate.
Tomney, God love him, was defined by the left because he was undefined himself.
It’s not a winner.
First order of business: Decree the Dem party outcasts.
Second order of business: No work, no money.
Third order of business: Make citizenship mean something: not a citizen, no bennies.
It would have been nice if the GOP could have morphed Mitt Romney’s executive leadership skills and Rick Perry’s political background into a single candidate.
I agree, and add, I dont think we can ever win again, regardless of who we run. UNLESS, the it is after the country completely folds, and then who would want it? The 47% have spoken, and I think they will grow and suck the country bone dry.
- NO MORE OPEN PRIMARIES. I don't like Democrats nominating our candidate.
-Conservatives radio hosts or TV anchors as moderators for GOP debates. I'm tired of CNN or MSNBC hosts trying to trip up our candidates on abortion, when the whole world is aligning against the US and prepared to take us out.
- Nominees need to go on Limbaugh. George W. bush went on Limbaugh, he won twice. McLame and Romney didn't, and they lost.
Close to 4 million conservatives stayed home because he was a moderate. I think he ran a real good campaign as well, but evidently these 3+ million warned after McCain that they would do this if a conservative was not put on the ticket. They did it. I want them back
And in that shift, the GOP needs to learn the Art of Political War, as discussed by Horowitz in his book of that title.
The GOP establishment is part of the leftist problem. They play the role of enabler by not attacking the left, by offering a lame defense against leftist attacks, by running candidates that they believe will appeal to the ‘other side’ while they don’t give a damn about appealing to us but rather attack us by referring to us as those who ‘cling to guns and the Bible,’ and by overtly destroying those candidates that do appeal to the base.
Don’t listen to the state-run media lies, my FRiends.
Conservatives with conservative cultural values did not lose because of their ideas. They lost because they were destroyed or abandoned by the GOP and unjustly attacked by the left and their state-run media.
We do not and should not move to the left just to win.
AND speaking of debate mods. HOW did obama know that crowley would have the transcript right there handy to use when Romney brought up benghazi? I believe they planned that, and it worked even though crowley admitted later that Romney was correct, her backing up obamas lie won that debate for obama, and stopped Romneys momentum.
By the time obama gets through, there won’t be a 2016.
I think Mitt Romney was one of the most capable, competent men ever to mount a campaign for the White House. His problem was always going to be two-fold: (1) that doesn't mean he'd be the best candidate to run for the position; and (2) a capable executive is so focused on achieving objectives within an organization that he ends up doing things in one position that hurt his chances of winning a campaign for another one. Item (2) is exactly what happened here, and is why his presidential aspirations would have been better served if he had been governor of Ohio or Texas instead of Massachusetts.
In what world did he run a decent campaign? He turned out less of the base than McLAME. He let them demonize him over Bain Capitol. He let them demonize him over the 47% remark. He let them say he was a felon and a murderer...and did not hit back...jsut grinned and said "naaaaaw....shucks...I not all that...geeee." He had, by most accounts, a HORRIBLE team surrounding him. He never once made F&F an issue. He didn't make Libya OR Benghazi an issue. He didn't make foreign policy an issue. Every time I looked around on national TV ads...I saw Obama ads. Everytime I got on Youtube...or Facebook...or Google...I saw Obama (and I said the GOP was WAY behind in E-media back in 2008! And this year was WORSE). "ORCA" was a failure. Had he been as viscious and run the general like he did the primary...he might have won.
I also echoed MANY Freepers about Romney: You CANNOT be governor of Taxachussets and be a conservative. NO WAY...NO HOW.
Run Romney in 16?
You need to upgrade your body armor to something more modern.
Romney is done like McCain. Time for a non-establishment candidate like Allen West. No more RINO’s or country clubbers either or socialist-lite.
There is no such thing as a swing voter. Just people who vote and people who dont
All the guys who imagine they can hold their base just by registering as a Republican and then campaigning for the non existent undecided middle of the road moderate swing voters LOSES!
There's this iron clad rule of campaigning they always forget ~ first secure your base. Cater to them. Attract those who are like minded about your solutions even before you campaign ~ BTW, learn what it is they will be like minded about too ~ they are NOT interested in more reacharounds.
The other rule to observe and never violate is DON'T DISCOURAGE YOUR BASE OR EVEN A PART OF IT FROM VOTING 'CAUSE THAT"S WHAT WILL HAPPEN
The last 8 years Republicans seem to have abandoned voter registration drives so the storehouse of like-minded Republicans is replenished. We have rules in Virginia that make getting on a primary ballot so difficult we actually don't have enough folks running to attract a crowd!
That's not the way to play the game.
as out of work liberals move to republican states..they too will be voting left..its a che movement
This is the fallacy that continues to cost us elections. Every time we seek to appeal to the swing voter we lose.
The last time we ran a conservtaive was Ronald Reagan. He won in the biggest landslide we've ever seen.
Forget the swing voters. They will follow whoever is strongest. Forget the liberal 47%, they hate us and always will hate us. Run a STRONG conservative and let them be a conservative.
We are a country divided and will remain divided until we get the parasites off of welfare and they either starve or regain a work ethic. (this may take a couple generations). We need to get every conservative to the polls every time. We need to impose our will on this country without regard to offending the liberals. Let them scream until their heads explode if they want. (It'd be fun to watch)
We msut retake our country and half measures (running another GOP-E selected wuss) aren't going to get the job done.