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Could Romney run in 2016, following Nixon's example? (vanity)
Nov 9, 2012 | Zhang Fei

Posted on 11/09/2012 4:38:36 AM PST by Zhang Fei

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To: Zhang Fei

I learned to like Romney in the end, but for a variety of reasons he did not bring out the base. He attracted less votes than Palin did in 2008. Too bad the GOP-e did not use the Palin magic in 2012. The GOP-e has no clue how to attract its base. Zero!

101 posted on 11/09/2012 6:24:44 AM PST by Chgogal (Obama helped murder US Navy SEALs.)
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To: jocon307
However, I keep remembering the piece I read somewhere which plainly stated that, as a candidate for office, Romney was (and sadly remains) a big time loser.

My sense is that he did not want it badly enough, and underestimated the amount of detailed knowledge and political skills it takes to win office. I get the impression that politically-speaking, he's a part-timer rather than someone who's deeply engaged in the minutia. He is a great family man whose children have benefited from his attention and guidance. The nation, however, has suffered from his inattention to politics, that culminated in his defeat in 2012.

In contrast, Reagan was an aloof father whose life's work wasn't raising his children; it was figuring out how to raise this nation out of the disasters of the 60's and the 70's, and how to get in a position to implement his preferred policies. As a result, several of Reagan's children have turned out pretty dysfunctional, and it's clear that this must have been a source of pain for him. In retrospect, we owe Reagan a great deal for the personal sacrifices he made on the road to the presidency, so that we could have the decade that slowed down the economic death spiral which was simply a matter of time once FDR initiated the New Deal.

102 posted on 11/09/2012 6:25:28 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: TSgt

That’s what we said this time

103 posted on 11/09/2012 6:41:45 AM PST by Gil4 (Progressives - Trying to repeal the Law of Supply and Demand since 1848)
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To: keckkw
Close to 4 million conservatives stayed home because he was a moderate.

Short-sighted thinking, because that probably cost us the Senate as well. That did more harm than reelecting the Marxist.

104 posted on 11/09/2012 6:44:00 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Zhang Fei

Mr. Romney, like Rove, was in it for the $$$$$$$$$$$$ only.

Backstabber Rove made an estimated 50 to 200 million from the
disaster. So watch for him to eagerly repeat it.

America is so screwed that the GOP did not listen.

105 posted on 11/09/2012 6:44:05 AM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Triple

RINO Romney and backstabber Rove did not even
let Ms. Palin SPEAK. And the result is they
are richer, and all America is poorer.

106 posted on 11/09/2012 6:45:06 AM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Zhang Fei
Romney dusted off Thomas Dewey's 1948 playbook and ran on not being offensive and not making mistakes. Just like Dewey, he went down to a vulnerable president in a terrible economy. In 1948 Truman lost nearly 1.5 million votes compared to the dem votes for FDR in 1944. Given the total votes cast (around 50 million) that's quite a lot. It works out to losing 6% of the votes than FDR had in 1944. On the other hand Dewey lost a small sliver, less than a percent. But he didn't gain any votes; people didn't come out for Truman but they didn't give their votes to Dewey either. And he lost.

Why Romney chose that model we will never know for sure but I'd be willing to bet that the same guy who suggested to W that he should ignore the critics and not respond may have influenced it. Karl Rove, losing elections for everyone but Bush since 2000.

107 posted on 11/09/2012 6:45:38 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Zhang Fei

Stop smoking crack! Romney was a horrible candidate. Not only was he not a true conservative, but he’s a member of a religious cult (Mormonism) which is NOT a Christian faith!!!

108 posted on 11/09/2012 6:54:49 AM PST by islamisasataniclie
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To: muawiyah

Does anyone FORCE a company to offer coupons? I thought not. But the modern American electorate is likely to DEMAND that companies offer them coupons or else...

Taking advantage of an offered lower price is not wrong. Demanding government take from others by force and give to you is evil.

109 posted on 11/09/2012 7:05:21 AM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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To: adc
-"And how in the heck do we implement that? What will it take to do that in every state?"

We can't, unless we get rid of all the RATs and have Republican "conservative" majorities in those states. Which means, then, that we're screwed.

110 posted on 11/09/2012 7:15:10 AM PST by LibFreeUSA
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To: Diogenesis


111 posted on 11/09/2012 7:15:30 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: islamisasataniclie
he’s a member of a religious cult (Mormonism) which is NOT a Christian faith!!!

It's ironic to read such comments on a website called free republic. Our forefathers risked their lives and livelihood for religious freedom. Somehow the intolerance they sought to escape crossed the ocean with them.

112 posted on 11/09/2012 7:32:31 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: TennesseeProfessor

No hope a’tall until someone emerges with the balls to respond like Reagan when being dissed by the media.

My favorite political moments were when Ron would smile, shake his head and say “Well, (insert name of lamestream would-be character assassin), there you go again, but .....”

I think the REAL difference between Reagan and the rest of the pitiful candidates the GOP has been running of late is the personal goals of the men in question.

I TRULY believe that Reagan’s goal was to help this country, even to the extent that he ran the milktoast, NWO promoting GHWB as his running mate in order to mend fences within the party.

The goal of the rest of the bunch has been to get elected POTUS.

And, don’t give the kneejerk BS about “ya have to get elected first”.

Reagan got elected BECAUSE his goal permeated his personality AND his campaign, not because he wanted to be POTUS.

THAT’s why Obamination got elected - he has also convinced the sheeple that he GENUINELY wants to help this country (including the “... I’ll be a one term president” statement).

113 posted on 11/09/2012 7:41:37 AM PST by CanuckYank
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To: dead


Right now I’m not even seriously thinking about 2016; I still haven’t gotten over Tuesday. I can think of only two people I’d want to run: Allen West or Mark Levin. Both are pure fantasy, so who cares.

114 posted on 11/09/2012 7:43:48 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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To: Zhang Fei
NO…NO…a thousand times no…in succession I’ve had to pinch my nose for:

....that my nose now resembles Michael Jackson nose prosthesis!!

115 posted on 11/09/2012 7:51:48 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Zhang Fei

Romney couldn’t beat Obama?

Romney didn’t beat McCain.

Disgraceful. A billion dollar campaign? What did Republicans get for their money?

McCain, 2008 popular vote: 58,319,442

Romney, 2012 popular vote: 58,163,978

That is the biggest fact of this election and no one is talking about it.

116 posted on 11/09/2012 8:13:19 AM PST by gandalftb
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To: Zhang Fei

NO WAY!!!!!!!!

117 posted on 11/09/2012 8:16:01 AM PST by knife6375 (US Navy Veteran)
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To: Morris70
If you just count candidates who were nominated by a major party, not potential nominees, the only time since 1892 that a candidate who had earlier lost an election came back to win is Richard Nixon in 1968.

Before that the only real cases are William Henry Harrison in 1840 and Grover Cleveland in 1892 (and he was a former President who had a plurality of the popular vote in 1888). Andrew Jackson won in 1828 after losing in 1824 but that was in the interval between the end of the first party system (Federalist vs. Republican) and the rise of the second party system (Whig vs. Democrat), and the winner of that election had to be selected by the House of Representatives.

The elections before 1804 don't count because the second-highest vote-winner became Vice President.

118 posted on 11/09/2012 8:43:37 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Zhang Fei

Romney could only run now if he had Sarah Palin for backbone

119 posted on 11/09/2012 9:08:43 AM PST by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: John O

“The last time we ran a conservtaive was Ronald Reagan. He won in the biggest landslide we’ve ever seen.”

Yes, but don’t forget that he won such a landslide, in part, because he was able to attract/convert “Reagan Democrats.” He was able to do so because, on top of being a true conservative, he was also the “Great Communicator” - in other words, he was able to communicate his conservative principles (and, more geneay, his vision for the future of America) to all Americans.

One problem with our modern political culture (gerrymandered districts, the internet, the pretty sharp divide between conservative and liberal media, etc.) is that today’s conservatives do not need to be good at selling their ideas to people who do not already self- identify as conservatives ( and believe me, there are plenty of people who hold conservative beliefs on the issues, but do not necessarily view themselves as ‘conservatives,’ so to speak). The next Reagan (if that person exists) will need to be able to do that).

120 posted on 11/09/2012 9:40:14 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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