Details of Dianne Feinsteins Upcoming Assault Weapons ban begin leaking

Truth about Guns.com ^ | Nov. 8th, 2012 | Nick Leghorn

[John S Mosby]

Everyone saw this coming. Dianne Feinstein, the Democratic Senator from California and co-sponsor of the USA PATRIOT Act extension, has been rumored to be meeting with ATF officials in the past few days and trying to come up with an outline for her next attempt at passing a new assault weapons ban. It seems like she does this once a year anyway, but in the wake of the Obama re-election people are on high alert for anything gun control related. And this time, it seems like all that practice of introducing failed legislation is leading to a more disturbing version of the bill…

David Codrea at the Examiner received the following tip from a source inside the NSSF:

I just heard that Sen. Feinstein’s attorney is meeting right now with folks from FTB and ATF legal (Eric Epstein [legal], Todd Martin [Legal] and Earl Griffith [FTB] and others) to discuss a new SAW ban, that she would want to start pushing through as soon as (if) Obama gets reelected.

- – No pistol grip allowed - – No HC Mags - – No grandfathering - – No sale permissible if in possession

That is all I know right now

[Travis McGee]

It's typical for cowards to project cowardice on everybody else. We understand.

[Godebert]

If I recall, it was an army doctor (Col. Lakin) that upheld his sworn oath to defend the Constitution, not a navy seal. You’re all talk, Travis.

[OneWingedShark]

If I recall, it was an army doctor (Col. Lakin) that upheld his sworn oath to defend the Constitution,

That still pisses me off; the case entirely deprived the Col of his right to question the legitimacy of his orders.
(Wrote a thought experiment on it.)

[Godebert]

Your thought experiment was more like a statement of fact.

'So then, I believe that I have a fairly solid case in saying that the authority a commander has is indeed derived from their superior, all the way to the president who, as Commander-in-Chief, derives his authority from the Constitution.

Of course The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.

There is not a single member of the military serving today that is doing so lawfully. They serve the Usurper, not the United States of America.

[OneWingedShark]

>>'So then, I believe that I have a fairly solid case in saying that the authority a commander has is indeed derived from their superior, all the way to the president who, as Commander-in-Chief, derives his authority from the Constitution.
>
>Your thought experiment was more like a statement of fact.

Ah, the experiment part is in the questions asked. I wanted a very solid ground on which to base it, and further arguments, upon.

>Of course The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.
>
>There is not a single member of the military serving today that is doing so lawfully. They serve the Usurper, not the United States of America.

That is actually very much the reason I got out: it became apparent to me that the service as-a-whole was not concerned with upholding their oaths to the Constitution. (The other major factor was that I was tired of being lied to, especially on the personal level: "you only need to pass your PT test and you'll get your promotion" -- and then they promote a guy to SGT who had been in as long as I'd been a SPC.)

[arthurus]

How can you fight back when you don’t even have the luxury of dying while shooting it out with a SWAT in a raid. A little drone with a little missile is sufficient. Obama will use such. From now on we have to wonder if something like that house in Indianapolis is not the effect of a drone carrying out the kenyan’s determination that the occupant is an enemy of the State, a “Terrorist.” The government doesn’t have to announce or admit anything at all.

[Borax Queen]

Wow, no kidding! I hadn’t been thinking about the drones when I posted on this thread, but that was the first thing I wrote my friend yesterday, after she sent me the Yahoo story on Indianapolis.... It’s horrible times, “V for Vendetta” style.

[ArrogantBustard]

Assuming this goes nowhere in the House, how can DumBO issue an EO to do the same thing?

Simple: 0dinga simply picks up a pen, writes such an executive order, and signs it.

That little "Constitution" thing you're thinking of won't do you a bit of good at 0300 when the BATFags show up at your back door.

[Neoliberalnot]

FYI:
“2009 Nobel Peace Prize nominee Jim Garrow shockingly claims he was told by a top military veteran that the Obama administration’s “litmus test” for new military leaders is whether or not they will obey an order to fire on U.S. citizens.”