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The Voters Who Stayed Home (The Key to Understanding the Results of the 2012 Elections)
National Review ^ | 11/10/2012 | Andrew McCarthy

Posted on 11/10/2012 5:13:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: carton253
He believes there was no difference between Romney and Obama. He was so blind and stupid that he couldn't tell the difference between a good man and a poser. Between a man who loves his country and a man dedicated to destroy it.

The Rush caller wants the country to burn because he believes that Ronald Reagan will emerge from the ashes. How little he knows history. Reagans don't emerge from the ashes... Hitlers do.

If you stayed home, for any reason, you have earned my contempt and scorn.

Lot of those here on FR. Until the last minute the that was the rule here: No Romney.

There are two ways at looking at the quote: "We got the country we deserved.: 1)Voters chose Obama because he gives them bread,circuses and phones. 2) People did not vote for Romney because they wore blinders (the horse kind) and wanted to prove a point. Good luck with either.

151 posted on 11/10/2012 8:00:18 AM PST by madison10 (This kind come out only with fasting and prayer ~~ Jesus)
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To: JCBreckenridge
Everybody I voted for won except Romney.

But the irony is that the Romney haters didn't just cost the presidency, they also sabotaged the senate and a bigger share of the house.

nobody has ever won by losing.

152 posted on 11/10/2012 8:00:38 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: JRandomFreeper
You cannot make me vote for a liberal

No one's trying to make you vote for anything. I guess your shortsighedness also prevents you from understanding that the election is over.

Some are just trying to point out how illogical you are for refusing to vote. Thus, what you CLAIM to hate has gained greater power.

Your name is spelled I-D-I-O-T.

153 posted on 11/10/2012 8:00:48 AM PST by what's up
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To: JRandomFreeper

Careful. It sounds as if you are saying your decision not to vote this week, and perhaps in the future, is not philosophically reasoned, but an emotional reaction based on retaliation for perceived insults.


154 posted on 11/10/2012 8:02:51 AM PST by floralamiss ("For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.")
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To: JRandomFreeper

Let me tell you something about your self righteousness: it makes you ignorant. As stated, I worked very hard against Mitt in the primary. We all lost that fight. I was never excited about him.

So, you say you won’t vote for a liberal no matter what. Fine. Your right. But maybe go to this link, and if you have ever been half the man that is unveiled in this link, you get back to me. I won’t hold my breath, because you aren’t half the man you so self righteously attack as being morally inferior to you.

I have many problems with Mitt as a candidate and with his faith. Having said that, I trust he and God can work that out with no help from me. Meanwhile, he walked it out better than you ever will. Read and repent.

http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/09/12/the-incredible-stories-of-character-the-media-isnt-telling-you-about-mitt-romney/


155 posted on 11/10/2012 8:02:58 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: muawiyah
For example, the biggest issue is that the Candidate be a lifelong, true-blue Republican.

So there is no room in your philosophy for anyone to ever change. In other words you're a purist. You would have sat out 1980 and refused to vote for Reagan.

Congrats.

156 posted on 11/10/2012 8:04:25 AM PST by what's up
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To: Ken H

My comments are to those who are stating they did “stay at home”, “no vote” or “voted 3rd party”, those who on this site were advocating others do the same and have described some of us who voted for Romney as “battered wives” and also want to say that this was not a denigrating remark. Of course much worse has been said of me and I only believe it’s making him feel better about his lack of effort in beating obama.

I know it’s difficult to overcome election and voter fraud in close elections and this was very close especially in the swing states. With the re-election of obama it is not likely to get any better. Republican voter registration was up in states that register by party from all accounts I’ve read prior to the election so that would mean we either had a massive die off of Republicans or we had many stay home that could possibly have given us a winning margin in some of these swing states.


157 posted on 11/10/2012 8:05:05 AM PST by duffee (Romney 2012, NEWT 2016)
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To: hopespringseternal

I thought that social conservatives were forced to vote for Romney and that we had no other choice.

Are you saying that’s not true?


158 posted on 11/10/2012 8:05:31 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
I voted for Tom Hoefling. I voted against both of his liberal opponents. I know that many folks voted for Romney because the 2012 election was "the most important election in our lifetime." Before that, the election of 2008 was "the most important election in our lifetime." Hell, I recall very clearly how the elections of 1992, 1996, 2000 and 2004 were also "the most important elections of our lifetime." I'll bet the election in 2016 will also be "the most important election in our lifetime."

McCain got enough votes in 2008 to lead elitists like Rove to believe that the GOP should nominate another liberal in 2012. Although Romney got fewer votes than McCain, my fear is that Romney got enough votes to lead elitists like Rove to believe that the GOP needs an even more liberal candidate in 2016.

In my view, the only way to change the direction of this country is for people to quit voting for liberals, period. If conservatives vote for liberals, that's what they'll get the next time, every time. The elitists pay attention to election results. There is only one way to tell them that enough is enough. Quit buying their baloney!

159 posted on 11/10/2012 8:05:35 AM PST by Tau Food (Praise God. Trust God.)
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To: what's up
You didn't comprehend what I wrote. I said we are long past the time where we need to pick up spare Democrat politicians.

The day of the RINO is over.

160 posted on 11/10/2012 8:07:11 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Your rant doesn't cancel my 'self righteousness'

It doesn't gain you a single, solitary vote.

Angry can be good.

Sometimes, it can just be destructive.

You are there.

/johnny

161 posted on 11/10/2012 8:07:11 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: floralamiss
Who says I didn't vote? I didn't say that. Cruz won, didn't he?

I'm immune to personal attacks, but many voters that are watching aren't.

Perhaps one should consider that.

/johnny

162 posted on 11/10/2012 8:09:23 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Timber Rattler

Now Timber that’s funny. I’ve never said that. I would NEVER say that. But you have to ask yourself: why did that concept even enter your mind?

We know this: someone on FR is the smartest person on FR. Someone on FR is the dumbest person on FR. This is true of any group of people of course.

Now I’ve nominated some as perhaps the dumbest. But I’ve never even broached the subject of the smartest and certainly never said that I was.

And yet, you did bring up the subject.

Food for thought.


163 posted on 11/10/2012 8:11:31 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: SeekAndFind

I am sick to death of people on ur side saying we did not turn out

Hell in St Lucie county the turnout was 140% for hte Dems, col Allen West is doing his recount there

When ARE WE GOING TO STOP SAYING THIS AND POSTING CRAP AND NOT DEAL WITH THE RIGGED ELECTION?


164 posted on 11/10/2012 8:11:43 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: madison10

I think I’m going with the third option. I’m going to church tomorrow and ask God to send real revival to this land.


165 posted on 11/10/2012 8:11:43 AM PST by carton253
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To: what's up
Your name is spelled I-D-I-O-T.

Sticks and stones, son, sticks and stones. Personal attacks on me aren't going to get that vote you crave.

/johnny

166 posted on 11/10/2012 8:11:59 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

“You claim that fiscal issues are NOT moral issues”

LIAR.

I said that fiscal and social issues are intertwined. Social conservativism is good fiscal sense - because strong families with a mother and father are much less likely to use government resources.

“Obamas government strip you of your freedoms and your property, just how much good will you be to the unborn?”

If I am arrested for defying Obamacare than I will go to jail rather than collaborate.

“When you don’t have a job, and can’t afford 15 dollar gas, and inflation has made feeding you and your family a real challenge, just how will you get to the pro life rally?”

I have already dropped my hours in response to the Obamacare mandate, and I make sure my take home pay is insufficient for Obama to take any of it. I’ve gone Galt since Obama was elected four years ago, and I will spend another 4 years going Galt.

I’ve been ready for 4 years. Where the hell were you, Rombot?


167 posted on 11/10/2012 8:12:05 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: SeekAndFind
A huge slice of the electorate stayed home.

No, actually millions of older, white Republlican voters died and the democrats added those names to their voter turnout.

168 posted on 11/10/2012 8:12:08 AM PST by Brandonmark (OWCM is The new American Minority!)
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To: muawiyah
I did comprehend what you wrote.

You won't be accepting ANY candidate who might be a repentant liberal who wants to run for office.

Even though many of the strongest conservatives even on this site, for example, once were deluded liberals in younger years.

In other words...you're a purist with no room for any other view.

169 posted on 11/10/2012 8:12:58 AM PST by what's up
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To: JRandomFreeper
It doesn't gain you a single, solitary vote.

You are an obtuse pharisee. It's not about that. That is not the issue at all. Small minds are obsessed with people. Mediocre minds are obsessed with issues. Big minds deal with ideas. You are obsessed with what I, a person, wants - and how I, a person, am advocating for it. Thus, your small minded obsession with me.

I am not obsessed with me. I am interested in the idea of the best way to preserve the Republic, which in some cases, means logically the best way to slow down the destruction of the Republic. Big minds, big ideas. Small minds, obsessed with people and emotion.

170 posted on 11/10/2012 8:14:39 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: what's up

You got it, She’s been perfect all her life. She demands the same.


171 posted on 11/10/2012 8:15:39 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: JRandomFreeper
Personal attacks on me

It's not a personal attack. It's a fact. You continue to think people here are trying to earn your vote (although the election is now over).

Meanwhile for some obscure reason you think you do not live under the same standards and pout in the corner.

This does not exhibit a whole lot of smarts.

172 posted on 11/10/2012 8:17:50 AM PST by what's up
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To: C. Edmund Wright
How is that working out for you on the winning the White House and Senate thing?

Didn't work, did it?

What you are doing isn't working.

Sorta sucks to keep playing those same cards over and over again....

/johnny

173 posted on 11/10/2012 8:17:56 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JCBreckenridge
I’ve been ready for 4 years. Where the hell were you, Rombot?

THIS IS DELICIOUS. You show what a fool you are for 2 reasons. A, you call me a rombot after I worked for two candidates who opposed him - and B, this...

Where was I? Oh, I don't know, just writing an article that went viral and was linked to every Randian website everywhere - quoted by every talk radio host - and derided by every liberal website on the planet - IN DECEMBER OF 2008!!!!!!!!!! You didn't go nearly as Galt as I did, nearly as soon as I did, nor had the impact I did....LOL

Read it and realize you are out of your league: http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/12/blame_me_for_job_losses.html

174 posted on 11/10/2012 8:21:01 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: what's up
Calling someone an idiot is a personal attack, hero.

Own it. You did it. It's on the record. Lots of folks tune out when you do that.

I disagree with you. I will be respectful when I do that, and not call people names.

I think you are wrong.

/johnny

175 posted on 11/10/2012 8:21:30 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: what's up
Not sinse the last major faction change ~ which was pretty much over by the 2004 election.

8 years later we've had no major movements, and running one of their own kind isn't going to attract further large groups of Democrats to the Republican brand. What it will do is alienate legitimate Republicans.

This is not rocket science ~ it's politics. You may be willing to give away our top slot to a leftwingtard again, but I"m not, and we don't have to anyway. You don't see the Democrats doing that!

176 posted on 11/10/2012 8:22:25 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: who knows what evil?

“Here is who is at fault...the GOP nominates a candidate who was being rejected by 65-70% of Republican voters all the way thru the primary process. They leave their primaries ‘open’ to Democrat shenanigans.”

A good place to start is eliminating the open primaries. The Dems use open primaries to choose their opponents. Akin would likely not have been a GOP Senate candidate without Dem voters in the primary and the Republicans would have picked up a Senate seat in Missouri.


177 posted on 11/10/2012 8:23:53 AM PST by Soul of the South
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To: JRandomFreeper
Idiots are those with lesser intelligence.

For example, everyone knows that calling Biden an idiot is really a plain statement of fact.

And those who claim to hate abortion yet sit back and allow abortionists to gain in power are...well...idiotic.

178 posted on 11/10/2012 8:23:53 AM PST by what's up
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To: JRandomFreeper

What is it that I am doing? I am neither Karl Rove nor Todd Akin. I am neither Reince Preibus nor Richard Mourdock.

I support those like Ted Cruz, Ron Johnson, Scott Walker, Allen West - that’s the mindset I represent. Again, the solution is not the establishment way, nor is it the bottom of the barrel tea party way - it’s the top line tea party way. That’s where I am. Maybe google Ron Johnson of Wisconsin. He and Cruz are good examples of where the future should be. And that way IS working.


179 posted on 11/10/2012 8:24:21 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: Brandonmark
Even more millions of Democrats dropped dead and just disappeared.

See what happens when you run those voter registration rolls to clean out the dead, departed and non-existent!

Another hit like the one the Dems just had and they'll disappear as a political party.

180 posted on 11/10/2012 8:26:08 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Running a candidate who ran on a platform of lower taxes, reforming entitlesments, religious freedom, picked a far right man for VP, is a successful businessman, will not cut the military, and is against Obamacare is "their own kind"?

In your la-la world I'm not surprised you find that true.

181 posted on 11/10/2012 8:28:59 AM PST by what's up
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To: JRandomFreeper

You were responding to carton253’s comment about the presidential race, and I responded to yours. You threw in Cruz. No one was talking about Texas.


182 posted on 11/10/2012 8:29:46 AM PST by floralamiss ("For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.")
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To: C. Edmund Wright

And yet, in the end, you chose to support him, just like you are castigating all those who decided that Romney was unworthy of their support.

That is why you are now a Rombot. :)

“Read it and realize you are out of your league”:

Interesting. You know nothing of me, and yet you are so confident in your success as to boast about your own.

First rule of going Galt - is the same as fight club. You don’t give people the tools to take away what you have. ;)


183 posted on 11/10/2012 8:29:54 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: what's up
The law comes down pretty hard on bombing these guys, but that's the only proven way to actually eliminate an abortionist, so don't get into anything that touches on that aspect lest they come to the door to talk to us.

We don't 'eliminate' abortionists, we vote their enablers out of office!

184 posted on 11/10/2012 8:30:33 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Then why are you attacking people here in Texas who did support him?


185 posted on 11/10/2012 8:30:59 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: muawiyah
we vote their enablers out of office!

Too bad so many who claim to hate abortion failed to do just that.

186 posted on 11/10/2012 8:32:26 AM PST by what's up
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Texas has the same demographics as the blue states, but yet we keep electing Republicans, but will the National GOP listen to us.....Hell, no.


187 posted on 11/10/2012 8:32:36 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: what's up
He didn't actually run on the party platform.

Democrats who run as Republicans do not, as part of their nature, adhere to the customs, traditions, beliefs and language of the party.

The truth is that when a Republican runs on Democrat issues, the people will usually vote for a Democrat (in reality, the Democrats will turn out in even greater numbers to vote for their own Democrat, and not ours)

188 posted on 11/10/2012 8:34:16 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
He didn't actually run on the party platform.

Largely...he certainly did.

189 posted on 11/10/2012 8:35:42 AM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

Do you actually think Republicans didn’t show up and vote for Romney? The death rate among Baby Boomers is sufficient to account for missing people.


190 posted on 11/10/2012 8:37:11 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: what's up

There’s a difference between some and all. Some doesn’t count when you say all.


191 posted on 11/10/2012 8:38:15 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
You seem to be all over the map in your comments.

But I'm still focused on your assertion that you will never support someone who's been what you call a "tru blue Repub all their life".

Good luck with that tiny party you will be trying all your life to create.

192 posted on 11/10/2012 8:40:12 AM PST by what's up
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To: dfwgator
but will the National GOP listen to us.....Hell, no.

They can't hear us over the roar of their own awesomeness... in their mind, anyway.

Hey... their guys write articles that get published. They must be special.

Meh... Lost cause, imho.

/johnny

193 posted on 11/10/2012 8:40:29 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: what's up

You do realize that there are multiple conversations going on in this thread, so no, I’m not all over the map ~ this is called multi-tasking. We elitists do it with ease. (/snork snork snork).


194 posted on 11/10/2012 8:44:00 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Timber Rattler
"They were warned, repeatedly."

Yup, they told the Paul Supporters to go bound sand and then dissed Palin and the Tea Party supporters. And now they are surprised they lost? Telling the base they are not wanted works every time. /s

195 posted on 11/10/2012 8:44:23 AM PST by jpsb
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To: what's up
Idiots are those with lesser intelligence.

Really?

Like that guy that picks up my trash at the curb on Tuesdays and Fridays... He doesn't speak english, so we converse in spanish.

I'm careful to say thank you to him and be polite. He may not know the chemistry and physics I know... he may not be able to make a bernaise over an open flame...

But I DAMN sure don't berate him because I'm smarter than him.

I need him. Right where he is, doing what he is doing.

I damn sure wouldn't call him an idiot, in any language.

So... you don't need me or want my vote. That's all I'm getting.

/johnny

196 posted on 11/10/2012 8:47:20 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: muawiyah
You do realize that there are multiple conversations going on in this thread

Your comments to me are all over the place. I'm not commenting on conversations you may be having with others.

197 posted on 11/10/2012 8:47:34 AM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

IF you simply work backwards through the thread and link my comments to you I think it will become quite clear to you that I am responding to every claim you make, and correcting you when you misrepresent what I have said ~ and BTW you do that a lot. If I didn’t say something I didn’t say something and don’t try to put words in my mouth.


198 posted on 11/10/2012 8:51:41 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: JRandomFreeper
I damn sure wouldn't call him an idiot, in any language

You might call him an idiot if he had done something or not done something which allowed evil to reign. In fact, I would hope you would do so to try to shake him out of his stupidity.

But, Random, I no doubt would be polite to you if our relationship consisted only of you picking up my trash.

199 posted on 11/10/2012 8:55:24 AM PST by what's up
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To: muawiyah
You may want to cite what you're addressing because the line of progression is lost when you jump from voting only for lifelong Repubs to bombing abortion clinics to voter fraud in rapid succession.

And, no, I did not put words in your mouth. You did that to yourself.

200 posted on 11/10/2012 8:57:52 AM PST by what's up
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