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We don't need more "negotiations" that we always lose out on. America is on life support and negotiations will not save her. The only way to save America at this point is to let it crash and rebuild the right way. No more ghetto mooches. No more "freebies".
1 posted on 11/10/2012 7:12:32 AM PST by tobyhill
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Please don't let the mainstream media convince you of what "Boehner said"...here is a direct statement from him on November 8:

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40 posted on 11/10/2012 8:43:33 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: tobyhill
Pandering and negotiations with our ideological enemies is what got the Republicans in this mess in the first place. If they don't work to support candidates who stand for conservative principles without apology... without excuses and can COMMUNICATE these principles effectively, they will always lose.

The moochers in this country will never vote for a republican, so forget about them. We want to energize folks that truly believe government is the problem, because it is. They need to quit using phrases like "working across the aisle" and they need to ignore the pundits. If they don't, they will never win another election again.

42 posted on 11/10/2012 8:48:00 AM PST by grimalkin (Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. Friedman)
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To: tobyhill

It was a mandate for Boehner to resign as Speaker. He is no leader.


43 posted on 11/10/2012 8:48:31 AM PST by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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My guess is that tons of Obama voters have no idea about what a debt ceiling is, what going over the cliff is, what a federal debt and deficit is, what the GNP is, etc. All they are concerned about is getting free EBT cards and the free Obamaphone, along with extended unemployment benefits with no work requirement. Rush is right- they voted for Santa Claus.


47 posted on 11/10/2012 8:58:05 AM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: tobyhill
What percentage of votes have third party efforts EVER received? 5%? Maybe 10% when Perot tried it? That is not the smart move, Infiltrate the GOP. replace the rino's. The percentages favor a renewed Tea Party effort to change the complexion of the existing structure.
49 posted on 11/10/2012 8:59:33 AM PST by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: tobyhill; All; Clint N. Suhks
Again as I just posted, in Speaker John Boehner Changes Hard-line Tone and Pledges Immigration Reform

To: Clint N. Suhks

House Speaker John A. Boehner, one of the most hard-line members of Congress on immigration, now says that comprehensive reform – which includes a pathway to legalization for the undocumented -- will be a priority in 2013.

Speak John A. Boring needs to be CHALLENGED by someone who is from the TEA PARTY (if he wins the re-count, I'd say Allan West. If not him, Paul Ryan!!) 35 posted on Saturday, November 10, 2012 12:06:39 PM by

ExCTCitizen (More Republicans stayed home then the margin of victory of O's Win...)

52 posted on 11/10/2012 9:10:34 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (More Republicans stayed home then the margin of victory of O's Win...)
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we conservatives are the RINO’s I guess. We have no place in the GOP. We mistakingly believed this party was an alternative to the Democrat Party but it is really an arm of the Democrat Party


53 posted on 11/10/2012 9:19:40 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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I don’t think Obama thinks its the end of the world if tax rates go back to where they were before Bush. His preference is for a huge voting block - say 60% - to pay no taxes and lock in power. But I think he can live with Clinton era tax rates.

As a result Obama is in a much better negotiating position. Boehner is between a rock and a hard place.

If we had a warrior in Boehner’s job he would be wise to hold strong. Better Clinton era tax rates than allow dems to permanently lock in even more power. It does hurt the economy as does ObamaCare. But Obama gets the blame. Yes he will try to blame Republicans. But this admits that lower Bush tax rates for <250K was actually a good thing and Clinton era rates were too high. so he has a problem there.


54 posted on 11/10/2012 9:32:50 AM PST by plain talk
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I do not post vanities, or threads. Know how but normally do not do it. One vanity during my tenure. Have drafted a proposal. A prayer you will not mind my posting to your thread. It may need a thread of its own, but this is a draft proposal. My apology if have done what you would not desire me do, in placing a post to your thread (draft proposal follows)

(insert date)

(To Your Senators: )
The Honorable (full name)
(Room #) (Name) Senate Office Building
United States Senate
Washington, DC 20510

Dear Senator:

(To Your Representative: )
The Honorable (full name)
(Room #) (Name) House Office Building
United States House of Representatives
Washington, DC 20515

Dear Representative:

My name is (insert name). I live at (insert address) end of paragraph. My credential are (list credentials). (Or for someone like I am.) I am a citizen of the United States.

(Honorable name of representative or Senator), today I write a request. I voted our last election and voted for you during the time of your running for elective office. Today, I write with many others. We are like minded and want what is best for our nation. This past November 6, 2012 taught me lessons. To return to Conservatism and to restore our nation, am humbly requesting my proposal be a consideration by those of like-mindedness within the body of Congress of the Republican Party. This proposal is extreme, though necessary for future generations running within the Republican Party to attain office. I pray my letter has not made file thirteen, for I propose the following. Allow the economy to crash. Back away from legislation by voting “present”. Tell the people elections have consequences, before and after voting “present”. The democrats won. Allow the democrats to take the blame for the coming crash. My children and grandchildren are depending upon your votes to secure for our future generations a chance to be Americans once more. Americans are resourceful. We will survive, if we are Americans, and not destine to become a dependent class of peoples. Your votes will make the difference. I humbly request the vote of “present” on all matters involving spending of taxpayer dollars. The economy will most certainly crash. Then America will rebuild. Americans are a proud and free people, and resourceful. Guard the door of our nation with our military, and Americans will sort this matter out. Your votes for freedom will ensure a better tomorrow. The dependent class will suffer. All Americans will suffer. Our suffering is ongoing at this point. I do not embrace the coming suffering, but know is a necessity for building a free people. I will embrace the suffering if Americans (all Americans) can be equal not in monetary blessings but instead equal in the blessings of freedom.

Request is to vote “present” on all legislation regarding funding of said/ any legislation. Allow the economy to crash. Further request, as was above, the freedom to guard our interior of our nation by our Law Enforcement. With military cuts looming, as will be the democrats compromise, give the men and women guarding our borders and our peoples the opportunity to do what they do best. Doing what is done best is being an American.

Sincerely,

(Your name here)

55 posted on 11/10/2012 9:45:53 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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Boehner if the GOP becomes known as the job creating party for the working middle class, they will triumph in 2016. Republicans win when people make good money working for private industry. When times are bad, voters turn to Democrats.

Republicans have to increase the acceptance of their brand name. Right now they are the job exporting, Obama hating, tax cuts for the rich, low approval Congress, women controlling and screwers of the middle class. How has that worked out for winning?


56 posted on 11/10/2012 9:49:52 AM PST by ex-snook (without forgiveness there is no Christianity)
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Time for the Republicans to go “Scorched Earth” let the Rats own the collapse.


57 posted on 11/10/2012 9:50:52 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: tobyhill

Stupid Boner. He won and retained control of the US House, yet he acts as if he lost.


59 posted on 11/10/2012 10:20:43 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: tobyhill

What happened with this?
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/09/dont_bet_on_a_boehner_bombshel.html

Can Boehner be blackmailed by the leftys? Do we really want this man as Speaker of the House— he’s already acting as if he runs the whole enchilada and none of the other representatives matter.

I can’t stand the man.


60 posted on 11/10/2012 10:23:43 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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It is time for Conservatives to recognize they have no place in the GOP.

We haven't since Reagan left office.

63 posted on 11/10/2012 11:49:34 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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Who is John Galt?

I am John Galt.

66 posted on 11/10/2012 12:01:58 PM PST by NELSON111
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