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BREAKING: Massive Voter Fraud in St. Lucie County, Florida
Townhall ^ | November 10, 2012 | Heather Ginsberf

Posted on 11/10/2012 11:13:13 AM PST by cruise_missile

On Tuesday only one precinct had less than 113% turnout. “The Unofficial vote count is 175,554 registered voters 247,713 vote cards cast (141.10% ). The National SEAL Museum, a St. Lucie county polling place, had 158.85% voter turn out, the highest in the county.”

The Supervisor of Elections, Gertrude Walker, had this to say concerning the 141% voter turnout: “They may have had something like that in Palm Beach County, but we’ve never seen that here.”

So maybe Allen West wasn’t crazy to ask for a lock-down on the ballot boxes and machines in this county. According to the report given the day after elections, Allen B. West garnered 52,625 votes in St.Lucie county and Patrick Murphy 65,896 votes.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: allenwest; election; florida; patrickmurphy; voterfraud
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To: Red Steel
You believe everything you read? You mean they voted on more than one form? Really? Well, where are the examples that we can see of one of these multi-form votes from the disputed counties? Lets see them. How about some testimony from voters.

Here is an article from early October, which mentions that the Florida ballots were "so long that voters will have to fill out multiple sheets with races on both sides, then feed those multiple pages through ballot scanners, one page at a time."

And, here (PDF) is a copy of the St. Lucie county sample ballot, showing four pages worth of elections and ballot questions (e.g., 2 sheets, with races on both sides).

And, for good measure, here is a link to the Florida Department of State election results page, reflecting a 70% turnout in St. Lucie county. 70% is, of course, half of 140%, and thus consistent with the point that the 140% number reflects (as the initial report stated) the two "cards cast" by each voter. 70% turnout * 2 cards = 140% "turnout" (measured as cards cast/registered voters).

51 posted on 11/10/2012 12:16:56 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: cruise_missile

We may wish we’d had foreign observers before this is over. We couldn’t have done worse & they were incredulous that there was no ID required.


52 posted on 11/10/2012 12:17:32 PM PST by KGeorge
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To: cruise_missile

Unfortunately St. Lucie County is a Dem stronghold.
Nothing is unusual or illegal as as long as they get Colonel Allen West.


53 posted on 11/10/2012 12:17:44 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: AZLiberty

I’m not Dumpster diving over there. lol


54 posted on 11/10/2012 12:18:12 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline, it's back. 2008, the Decline of America)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
Possibly plausible, but I'll wait until Allen West gets to look at the process and the "votes" to determine if these clowns are on the up and up.

I don't tolerate the lies I get everyday from the Dems to believe them about anything they say especially counting votes.

55 posted on 11/10/2012 12:21:20 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: CommieCutter

Right. It continues to occur and ever more blatantly.

Still, the pubs don’t seem to care.


56 posted on 11/10/2012 12:30:03 PM PST by Memphis Moe
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To: Russ
Then the judge is in on the coup also.

This is clearly organized. If one considers how long the Journolist was in operation before it was accidentally discovered, it's not a stretch of the imagination to assume that there are other "lists" out there, too, that we don't know about.

This is a systematic overthrow of our government. I've been saying for a year now that we are going to witness massive greater than 100% voting in precincts.

He we are.

-PJ

57 posted on 11/10/2012 12:35:52 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Red Steel

Sample Ballots

http://www.miamidade.gov/elections/s_ballots/11-6-12_sb.pdf

www.browardsoe.org/GetDocument.aspx?id=4636

http://www.slcelections.com/Pdf%20Docs/sample%20ballot/combined%20sample%20ballot%20with%20watermark.pdf


58 posted on 11/10/2012 12:36:02 PM PST by Ray76 ("We're ready to be led" - John Boehner, leader of the opposition)
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To: GRRRRR
It is a way to obscure voter fraud when it happens. It really is a double percentage count of a single vote. A "multi-vote" form vote should count as 1 - not 2 or 3 or whatever. Who cares if another page or the backside of the form was used. The Dems seem to do.

An analogy would be what the Social Security Administration did after Obama was found to be using a Connecticut Social security number. They mixed up the prefixes making it harder to determine which state the SSNs was issued from.

59 posted on 11/10/2012 12:41:57 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Abigail Adams

The same group that will address the PA polling places that kicked out the Republican poll watchers and registered 99% for Buckwheat.


60 posted on 11/10/2012 12:43:51 PM PST by matthew fuller (God is cast his early vote 10/29 in Obamaland!)
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To: cruise_missile

VOTE BUMP


61 posted on 11/10/2012 1:01:30 PM PST by kitkat
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To: cruise_missile

VOTE BUMP


62 posted on 11/10/2012 1:02:24 PM PST by kitkat
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To: Puppage

Hopefully Congressman West will break this massive voter fraud wide open. He is the only one in congress with any balls.


63 posted on 11/10/2012 1:12:00 PM PST by Roklok
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To: cruise_missile

George Bush Jr. made possible and gave us Barak Obama..
Juan McLaim totally embarrassed anyone calling themselves republican..
Myth Romney made possible and gave us mass exodus of the republican party..

Believe it.. the republican party will shrink like a peter in a 32 degrees pond...

The republican party has fallen victim of the George Constanza Syndrome.. i.e. Seinfeld..
“Its not a lie, if you believe it”... -George Constanza..


64 posted on 11/10/2012 1:26:08 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

So....just ignore this then ? West really didn’t get railroaded?


65 posted on 11/10/2012 1:26:57 PM PST by major-pelham
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To: Kenny

I sent West money three days ago.....


66 posted on 11/10/2012 1:29:21 PM PST by eleb
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To: cruise_missile

I checked my county and there is a missing link about cards counted. Alachua county showed way over 100% card counts but the turnout was 70% or so. This is a phony statistic somehow, not being read right. OTH go West!


67 posted on 11/10/2012 1:42:38 PM PST by libbylu
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Exactly...it was a 2 page ballot (2 separate pages).

We had all the races, in our county we had the national races, local races (like school board and county commissioners), judges, and then 11 Amendments and one referendum. All of Florida had the 11 Amendments to vote on and they were remarkably lengthy.

It took us 20 minutes to vote, and we did it at home :)

The 2 page ballot is the reason for the discrepancy in numbers.


68 posted on 11/10/2012 1:52:33 PM PST by memyselfandi59
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To: cruise_missile

ping


70 posted on 11/10/2012 1:53:47 PM PST by BruCru (I think, therefore I am conservative!)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Disregard my last post... I see a mistake.


71 posted on 11/10/2012 2:03:29 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: major-pelham
So....just ignore this then ? West really didn’t get railroaded?

I didn't say that. West may well have gotten railroaded. Only a full & fair recount/investigation can tell us that. My point is that the supposed 141% turnout is a red herring. It distracts from the legitimate issues in the recount, and, if anything, hurts West (as it allows Dems to paint West supporters as wild-eyed conspiracy theorists who can't even bother to look at the full results issues by the county before screaming 'fraud').

72 posted on 11/10/2012 2:09:10 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Red Steel
Here are the actual results as posted on the St Lucie website:


St Lucie County Election Results


Registered Voters 175554 - Cards Cast 247713  141.10% 
Num. Report Precinct 65 - Num. Reporting 65   100.00%
PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT
Total Number of Precincts 65  
Precincts Reporting 65 100.0 %
Times Counted 124031/175554 70.7 %
Total Votes 123591
Times Blank Voted 397
Times Over Voted 43


Mitt Romney          REP 56125 45.41%
Barack Obama         DEM 66246 53.60%
Thomas R Stevens     OBJ    66  0.05%
Gary Johnson         LBT   517  0.42%
Virgil H. Goode, Jr. CPF    31  0.03%
Jill Stein           GRE   110  0.09%
Andre Barnett        REF    11  0.01%
Stewart Alexander    SOC    10  0.01%
Peta Lindsay         PSL     9  0.01%
Roseanne Barr        PFP   145  0.12%
Tom Hoefling         AIP    11  0.01%
Ross C. Anderson     JPF    32  0.03%
Write-in Votes             278  0.22%

73 posted on 11/10/2012 2:13:32 PM PST by deport
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To: Red Steel

Even if there is a mistake in the math in your last post (if there is one, I didn’t read closely enough to catch it), the point you make is a good one - the ‘count each card’ method of calculating turnout does provide some room for virtually undetectable manipulation, as under votes provide an opportunity to slip in extra votes without looking too suspicious. Frankly, it doesn’t look like that happened here, at least with respect to the Presidental ballots (about 70% of registered voters cast ballots for president, which is consistent with the overall turnout, and I would think that any one-sheet under-votes would likely involve the second sheet, not the one with the Presidential ballot), but the room for manipulation is certainly there.


74 posted on 11/10/2012 2:20:13 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: cruise_missile
What’s this about then?

Allen West Wins Congressional Race: Report

Florida congressman Allen West has won his re-election bid by a narrow enough margin to prompt a full recount, according to sources within the Republican’s ranks.

“Boots on the ground update from the Allen West election count via Gary Angelo Galiano: ‘We win by 195,’” Congresman West supporter Gary Angelo Galiano posted on his Facebook account early Saturday morning.

.

75 posted on 11/10/2012 2:31:02 PM PST by Elle Bee
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
Frankly, it doesn’t look like that happened here, at least with respect to the Presidental ballots (about 70% of registered voters cast ballots for president,

Yeah, ...I took a closer look at St. Lucie line-by-line and I overlooked a data column [arrg].

But the beat goes on. Election Supervisor Gertrude Walker hired a lawyer and is not answering her callers.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/robbins-report/2012/nov/10/florida-vote-twist-more-ballots-voters/

And I posted a thread here of the Washington Times article..

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2958071/posts

76 posted on 11/10/2012 2:44:21 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: cruise_missile

BONERS TO BUSY SUCKING RAT A##. Come on boner say it’s not true grow some balls and lets round these bastards up for voter fraud and put the real president in the WH. Chicken sh## useless turds all of them. they would rather play nicey nice knowing they committed fraud than stand like an American and fight the criminals


77 posted on 11/10/2012 2:47:43 PM PST by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

what was the count in Orange County FLA?


78 posted on 11/10/2012 3:54:57 PM PST by spacejunkie2001
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To: spacejunkie2001
what was the count in Orange County FLA?

According to the Orange County Supervisor of Elections (link), voter turnout in Orange County was 68.23%. 690,645 registered voters, 471,240 ballots cast.

79 posted on 11/10/2012 4:21:43 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

how does it compare to St. Lucie then? Just trying to get my arms around it because we had 3 ballots in OC.


80 posted on 11/10/2012 4:30:14 PM PST by spacejunkie2001
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To: spacejunkie2001

Orange County’s data was reported in terms of “ballots cast,” not “cards cast.”


81 posted on 11/10/2012 4:56:19 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

got it, thanks


82 posted on 11/10/2012 5:14:30 PM PST by spacejunkie2001
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To: cruise_missile
Massive Voter Fraud in St. Lucie County, Florida

Yeh so what! We spit in your face. What are you gonna do about it?

We're ALL witnessing typical Chicago politics now playing on the National stage.

83 posted on 11/10/2012 5:22:10 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: cruise_missile; ml/nj; LeoWindhorse; Varmint Al; Eleutheria5; patriot08; ExTexasRedhead; ...
Allen B. West garnered 52,625 votes in St. Lucie county and Patrick Murphy 65,896 votes.

That's pretty darn close to the vote totals in St. Lucie County for McCain and Obama, respectively, in the 2008 presidential race. Now compare that with Palm Beach County, where West, with a slim lead, did much better than McCain in 2008, even with the possibility of fraud favoring the Democrats there as well. (Obama won about 61% of the two-party vote in Palm Beach vs. McCain's 39%). Palm Beach County is generally considered to be more Democratic than St. Lucie, and yet West was popular enough there to gain a slim margin. So it doesn't make too much sense that his percentage of the vote in St. Lucie Co. lags about five points behind his percentage in Palm Beach and just about equals McCain's percentage in St. Lucie. All I'm saying is that this is another red flag suggesting shenanigans, on top of the obvious one of more ballots being cast in some precincts in St. Lucie than there are registered voters. Or, as West's people are rightfully saying, the numbers just don't add up.

Of course, the MSM in this situation can't resist lambasting West as an "extremist" because he has good cause to think he was robbed and is pursing remedies to right a grievous wrong accordingly.

84 posted on 11/10/2012 5:47:56 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93; AeroFANatic; Ex-NewYorker; Jacvin; neilevan; P. J. F.; proudcitizenbychoice; ...
FLORIDA FREEPERS! PLEASE SHARE WITH ALL FLORIDIANS ON YOUR LISTS WHO MAY LIVE IN THE SOUTH FLORIDA AREA. Broward, Miami/Dade,Palm Beach,St.Lucie counties! Please copy and send the following:
FYI
The St Lucie County SOE has decided that an EARLIER vote recount would be best. She has decided that day would be on SUNDAY Nov 11th @ 7am, VETERANS DAY, while all the West constituents are a part of Veteran's Day activities. PLEASE HELP US SPREAD THE WORD WE NEED THE MASSES TO SHOW UP AND HELP OVERSEE THE RECOUNT!!! #AllenWest #Florida

Whether or not you can or cannot attend it is URGENT that you share this information with everyone on your email lists! The integrity of our vote is on the line here people!!

Please go to this link for details about tomorrow.....
http://www.allenwestrepublic.com/2012/11/10/urgent-come-help-st-lucie-issues-decision-to-recount-votes-earlier-sunday-700am/

You can see the massive voter fraud in St Lucie County here......http://www.allenwestrepublic.com/2012/11/10/allen-west-for-congress-released-this-statement-regarding-the-state-of-the-race-in-floridas-18th-district/

We had them recount in Palm Beach County and Allen West is ahead!! Now we battle in St Lucie!!

~The Conservative Diva~
http://www.Theconservativediva.net

(561) 236-9061

~ AllenWest4Congress ~
http://www.allenwestforcongress.com/

85 posted on 11/10/2012 6:04:03 PM PST by seekthetruth (I want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
The fix is in. It is a done deal. There is no stopping it.

Unless, the RINO/DINO click had agreed that Romney would win in a close race. There are many indications that would lead one to believe that Romney was going to win. And we got some unbelievable knee jerk reactionary posts from RINO's trying to salvage the situation here the first two days after the election.

So Emperor Zero pulls a fast one and uses his foreigners and domestic drones to steal the election. If that is what happened, things are going to get real interesting. Basically a civil war within the DINO/RINO cult. That is possible considering they are fighting over the scraps of an economically collapsing world order.

86 posted on 11/10/2012 6:12:37 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justiceseeker93

The new FL-18 includes all of St. Lucie County and Martin County but only the northern portion of Palm Beach County. http://www.flsenate.gov/PublishedContent/SESSION/HOME/REDISTRICTING2012/PUBLICCOMMENTS/h000c9047_35x42L.pdf Martin County is Republican, but St.Lucie County leans Democrat (Romney got like 45% there; while Palm Beach County as a whole is more Democrat than St. Lucie County, the portion of Palm Beach County in the FL-18 (Jupiter, etc.) actually leans Republican. The heavily Dem parts of Palm Beach County are in the black-majority FL-20 or the heavily Jewish Democrat FL-21, with marginal coastal areas in southern Palm Beach County going to the new FL-22 in which Lois Frankel beat Adam Hasner.

Throw in the fact that Allen West has represented part of Northern Palm Beach County in Congress over the past two years but that he was new to St. Lucie County voters, and it is not surprising that Allen West did better in the Palm Beach County portion of the FL-18 than in St. Lucie County.


87 posted on 11/10/2012 7:26:13 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
Thanks for that explanation. I knew that the new district out of which West ran only included part of Palm Beach County.

But saying that West is "new to St. Lucie County voters" is not exactly true, since he has a very high profile, especially for a freshman, with undoubtedly much exposure in local media there.

What is the racial/ethnic mix in St. Lucie County, if you happen to know? Also the percentage of active military and veterans - above, below, or close to the national average?

At first glance it would seem strange that Romney could hardly do better than McCain there in percentage terms and that West couldn't do better than McCain there as well.

88 posted on 11/10/2012 8:34:47 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

St. Lucie County’s population is 20% black and 17% Hispanic, and it has a bit more veterans as a percentage of the population than FL as a whole. http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/12/12111.html

Romney got 45.44% in St. Lucie County, 2% better than McCain’s 43.41%. Romney only did 1% better than McCain in FL as a whole (49.1% instead of 48.1%), so his St. Lucie performance wasn’t unexpectedly bad.


89 posted on 11/10/2012 8:52:16 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: CommieCutter

Boehner the Weeper? Of course he’ll do something! He will lead the charge to the Kenyan in the WH in full knee pad regalia and slobber praises upon the Son of Perdition!


90 posted on 11/10/2012 11:53:20 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: molson209

No, he will ask to be acclaimed to be President for life; an Idi Amin on Slimfast or crack as the case may be..


91 posted on 11/10/2012 11:55:22 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: hosepipe

Boehner will weep and shout “Shrinkage..”


92 posted on 11/11/2012 12:00:59 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: cruise_missile

BFL


93 posted on 11/11/2012 5:32:39 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: justiceseeker93

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/20121112_In_59_Philadelphia_voting_wards__Mitt_Romney_got_zero_votes.html


94 posted on 11/12/2012 10:46:41 AM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer; ExTexasRedhead; editor-surveyor; Reaganite Republican; ml/nj; All
Yes, I heard that story about Philadelphia.

It's time for these Republican state officials, especially the AGs, to step up and make arrests and prosecute these clowns for election fraud and cheating! Until that happens, we will have a lawless government and society capable of all kinds of atrocities.

95 posted on 11/12/2012 11:42:00 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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