Skip to comments.The Voters who stayed Home (bitter pill: Republicans re-elected Obama)
Posted on 11/11/2012 11:27:31 AM PST by pabianice
The key to understanding the 2012 election is simple: A huge slice of the electorate stayed home.
The punditocracy which is more of the ruling class than an eye on the ruling class has naturally decided that this is because Republicans are not enough like Democrats: They need to play more identity politics (in particular, adopt the Lefts embrace of illegal immigration) in order to be viable. But the story is not about who voted; it is about who didnt vote. In truth, millions of Americans have decided that Republicans are not a viable alternative because they are already too much like Democrats. They are Washington. With no hope that a Romney administration or more Republicans in Congress would change this sad state of affairs, these voters shrugged their shoulders and became non-voters.
This is the most important election of our lifetime. That was the ubiquitous rally cry of Republican leaders. The country yawned. About 11 million fewer Americans voted for the two major-party candidates in 2012 119 million, down from 130 million in 2008. In fact, even though our population has steadily increased in the last eight years (adding 16 million to the 2004 estimate of 293 million Americans), about 2 million fewer Americans pulled the lever for Obama and Romney than for George W. Bush and John Kerry.
That is staggering.
(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...
Great post, SpaceBar.
Great post, SpaceBar.
Here's a short one:
"The Lord knows all human plans--he knows that they are futile."
Sorry, the only thing different about MY sentence compared to yours are the Subjects.
The LOGIC is EXACTLY the same.
As for whether it 'worked' or not is left to the other readers of them both.
Youre as bad as a Democrat in your ability to use logic and reason.
I still like your logic; though!
It just saddens me that there are people who just dont understand the lesser of two evils rule.
It appears that you are just a bit more than 'saddened' by the FACT that I REFUSE to vote for the 'lesser' evil.
I am shocked that so many American's will vote for EVIL at all!
And then to turn around and berate those who hold some values a bit higher than their own; is AMAZING!!
Do we Republicans even HAVE any of these?
"Bet you spend all your time spanking the monkey.", said the adult in the room.
My name is Mia Love; and I'm a MORMON (loser)
Yup; you sure did; and I hope EVERYONE gets to read it:
Yeah Elsie, Ill be lectured by a wacky little religious bigot.
I'll let you know if I see different.
But there were some early indicators of R underperformance that we saw and thought would be overcome on Election Day: remember the absentee spreadsheets? While D absentees were down so were Rs (not as much, but they were down). On Election Day, Bill Cunningham saw late in the day---BEFORE THE VOTES WERE EVEN TRANSMITTED---that R zones were running low despite the "lines."
Finally, in Montgomery Co. OH, and we are checking on others, the "turnout" was caused by consolidation of 500+ voting stations into 340, drastically slowing down the process and causing lines. It was inefficiency, not turnout , that caused the lines.
As I say, we are examining the strange looking precincts.
About the only republican on the scene today that could win with the dumwits is Dennis Miller. He is hip, cool, quick on his feet, articulate, is great with the late night crowd, kinda looks Hispanic and can jive talk. But can he govern? Who really cares?
As your tagline suggests - it takes one American Idol to beat another.
As for open primaries, the republicans love the idea as it tends to moderate the field. Our primary problem this year was that we had too many conservative candidates to choose from, and we kept whittling them down till only Romney was left.
I am sad for Romney that he lost. He may not be a conservative, but he is a good person with sterling character. I would rather have a man like that as president than a shallow conservative who just mouths the cliches.
To me, that is our biggest problem as a country; we don’t value honesty, decency, and goodness. We are sliding to Gomorrah.
We need to win senate seats this next off-year election and build a more conservative House that gets rid of Whore House Bone-head. We need to put ‘lame duck’ status on O as soon as possible.
[OK — that’s my 2 cents for now. I’ll stay away for a while as promised. FRegards ....]
The bottom line is that the GOP wants the conservative VOTE without offering conservatives ANYTHING. No wonder people stayed home.
Now the estabishment RINO GOP get’s exactly what they’ve always wanted—the chance to “cross the isle”. I’m sure John Boehner will sink to the occasion...
“2. No more than three candidates, to be chosen by a committee.”
“Search all the parks in all your cities,
You’ll find no statues of committees.”
— Gilbert K. Chesterton
More backroom GOP-e decision-making? No thanks.
Well, the current process sure isn't working.
I didn’t vote for the lesser of two evils. The blame lies squarely on the backs of Rove, Coulter, Drudge and the rest of those CINO hacks! They are OBSESSED with GOP power, not with turning this country around.
PREDICTION: (pretty safe prediction at that...)
Next election cycle they GOP candidates will tell the conservative base what they want to hear. Then the entire agenda will move leftward during the general election. The disgruntled conservative base will again buy what the GOP-e is selling for the sake of ousting the democrat candidate. The pathetic GOP RINO candidate will again lose and finger-pointing will once again ensue.
God’s in control. Those of us who know that simple fact are able to vote for our principals. We also believe that ALL authority is given to man BY GOD HIMSELF.
“Well, the current process sure isn’t working.”
I liked your other points. Would certainly improve the process. Just not sure about this one.
Suppose it depends on who is in the committee.
"A huge slice of the electorate voted twice. A huge slice of the electorate didn't exist on 11/6/2012 (dead). A huge slice of the electorate was duplicate absentee ballots. A huge slice of the electorate were Republicans who had their votes expunged.Right on, B Sam.
"The media keeps trumpeting this "Republicans stayed home." Again. BS. The 'Rats stole this one with a 4 year coordinated, surgical strike on the voting process."
In 2000 with a similar close vote, Gore and the dems did all they could to try to steal the elections.
FR was in Florida (and many other places) "breaking" in to the vote couters bunkers (Called an angry mob, I have the t-shirt) and caught them with the infamous "hanging chad"--changing votes for Gore-- fiasco and also caught them putting Bush votes in the Gore pile.
The timid scardy cat GOP should have INSTANTLY called the leftists on the nation wide voter fraud (Soros, ACORN [alive and well in every major city under new names]) but they don't seem to care.
After all, they let dems vote in their primaries so that the dems and media choose their candidates with a little help from the Turd Blossom (Rove if you don't remember his nickname) and the GOP-e.
It's a disgrace.
Sign the petition for a recount:
Visit this site.
They are keeping a running account of cases of voter fraud and what to do about it:
SATURDAY UPDATES (Thurs and Fri fraud at site)
Military service members purged from voter rolls in Florida...
Pundit Press: In Florida: Obama Got Over 99% in Broward County Precincts
TRR: Allen West Seeks Recount Amid Growing Vote Count Scandal
[This is the same St. Lucie that has 141.1% voter turnout affecting both Romney and West...]
St. Lucie County - 84 juridictions, 83 of them had 121-166% turn out
Nevada Unions Are Regestering Illegals and Forcing Them to Vote
The video suggests that this method was the only way Harry Reid was able to defeat challenger Sharon Angle in 2010 to retain his Senate seat and continues to be used.
via Jewel on Facebook: Could you please help us? There is a petition for a recount and it takes 28,000 signatures. We are all promoting it and would love to have you on our side. The link to sign the petition is:
Another petition, this one to Congress:
You can also request that Reince Preibus of the GOP start a swing state recount based on information available at this website and as part of ORCA (Thanks Shirley!):
Ive added links to all three petitions to the sidebar at the top of this page and expect to add more.
Voter Fraud by the numbers? Absolutely
Thank you to everyone who is sharing this page! As of Saturday morning, we are getting about 3,000 visitors an hour. You are making a difference!
This one is MUST SEE:
Obama won 100% of the 900,135 votes cast in Cuyahoga County OH! No votes from new registered voters or indies went to Mitt. Voting officials SHOULD BE ARRESTED BY OUR MILITARY FOR SEDITION & PERPETRATING A FRAUD AGAINST ALL OF AMERICA. A CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT WILL BE FILED against the networks for not telling the truth! view pic.
Throw out this all-fraud county and Mitt wins Ohio, no question!
Why? A total of 5,364,324 people voted in Ohio. Obama got 2,691,861 votes, while Romney got 2,584,620, a difference of 107,241 votes.
How did Cuyahoga Countys 900,135 votes affect the final result? You do the math.
For Ohio to certify this result would be a crime in and of itself.
Thank you to the Examiner for mentioning us!
Citing voter fraud, petition at White House web site demands recount of election
Thanks also to The Competent Conservative for quoting us in entirety!
Is There Enough Evidence of Voter Fraud To Merit a Recount?
Much more to come! As one of our commenters below said, voter fraud is like cockroaches. You find one and they are likely everywhere. Cuyahoga County, Ohio is obviously not alone!
Here is a petition you can sign at Change.org to request a full recount. I suggest we just focus on the swing states, but it is true that many Congressional and Senate races are also affected, from Allen West to, I believe, Mia Love. Mia was up by 10% the week before the election and lost by 3,000 votes to Matheson in a state that went 73% for Romney. Not likely!
The Columbus Dispatch reports, Voter rolls in Ohio are bloated, experts say
An update on St. Lucie County, Florida:
Video: More fraud from Florida, including kicking out an elderly poll observer doing his job using the police:
Townhall blogger Rachel Alexander reports:
Obama Likely Won Re-Election Through Election Fraud
The Washington Times: Florida Vote Twist: More Ballots Than Voters
Here is a link to Allen Wests press release on the voter fraud situation in Florida:
Newsmax reports: Voter Fraud Charges Begin in Ohio
Darin Southam recommends TrueTheVote.org for some pre-election indications of potential voter fraud, but the page understates what actually happened in pretty much every swing state.
And what do you think of this? This was way before the election, but apparently George Soros, who we have already established rigged an election in Hungary and was banned for it AND helped get Obama elected the first time... Ill let you read the headline:
Soros advises Obama to use forceful measures to override the will of the people
I think this goes well beyond the 900+ executive orders that go around Congress, more than three times the executive orders given by all previous US Presidents combined. We saw it in action Tuesday, November 6th!
A Tea Party group has posted this article, with interesting stats and some criticism for Romney for not standing up and doing something about it yet:
Personally I think as the case is strong enough, Mitt will do something. Too much is at stake, and as we just found out, Ohio is definitely Mitts, and Florida, too, just based on fraud in a few counties! Colorado, too!
Keep up the referrals and the sharing, everyone! Thank you SO much for helping America fix an election that has clearly been fixed.
Voter fraud cheapens the votes of the 60 million who picked Mitt to the point of nothingness and gives weight to those who in reality were the minority. If grand theft is defined as any theft over $5,000, what do you call the ONE BILLION times that that is likely to happen AGAIN over the next four years if we do not right this wrong?
Posted by Jed M. Merrill at 1:56 PM 68 comments:
2012 = 14 million
Curious as to where you are finding that turnout number of 14 million? The turnout for the 2012 Nov. General was only 7,964,668.
Total registered voters were 13,646,226 ....
The following gives the historical numbers:
Yup, because someone with your childish view of politics, must have the mentality of a 12 year old. Gee, we didn’t get a dream conservative to vote for. We haven’t had one since Reagan. Even Reagan wasn’t pure enough for some. Think things would have been better with presidents Dukakis, and Gore? Did that protest vote for Perot work out well? All those REAL conservatives who sat it out in 08 , really showed them. Now a large group of idiots helped Obame to destroy our country for another 4 years by sitting on their asses. So sit home whine bitch and moan its all you are good at. Meanwhile the adults will have to try and salvage as much of this disaster as they can.
Are those anything like SIN?
I've heard a little bit about that; somewhere, sometime, I think...
You know; if you are going be this upset, every time YOUR chosen person fails to get electged; you should probably not vote.
“Mia was up by 10% the week before the election and lost by 3,000 votes to Matheson in a state that went 73% for Romney.” ‘Someone’ is very afraid of a black conservative patriotic woman growing in popularity while building a resume of competency. Guess who that might be? ... It’s the same gaggle of vermin who gave the world the KKK, THE DEMOCRAP PARTY!
I misread the SOS.
SARAH PALIN speaks out of massive Obama machine voter fraud:
Sarah Palin News @SarahPalinLinks Between suppression of the military vote and voter fraud, Obama stole another election. http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46302 DEMAND A RECOUNT! #VoterFraud
Sarah Palin News @SarahPalinLinks People need to stop pointing fingers within the GOP and investigate the Dems' massive voter fraud and suppression of the military vote.
But then I would be an idiot, just like you.
Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything ...
"It is enough that the people believe there was an election.
The people who cast the votes decide nothing.
The people who count the votes decide everything."
Just wait; as this anger and disappointment will pass.
And you and your ilk will still be idiots, waiting to screw us all the next time you don’t get your perfect mystery date to vote for. So sit back smile and enjoy what you have coming for the next 4 years, you earned every second of it.
I am sure they were. America has turned a corner and gone liberal left to enough of a degree.
When it all comes crashing down, the liberals will be asking “What happened?” ... And they will still refuse to believe what the cause was.
'Idiots' that told you ALL months ago that ROMNEY was damaged goods.
Who's the fool now!
3. Elsie & ilk...
-—”It appears that you are just a bit more than ‘saddened’ by the FACT that I REFUSE to vote for the ‘lesser’ evil.
I am shocked that so many American’s will vote for EVIL at all! And then to turn around and berate those who hold some values a bit higher than their own; is AMAZING!!”
Nice try, I was using a figure of speech Of course I don’t think Romney is “Evil” nor should you. Obama IS EVIL. With Romney, there was at least the possibility that he would come thru on his free-market approach way more than Obama every would.
That’s the sad part. Obama will be 100X worse than Romney would have ever been. Romney was talking the talk of a true fiscal conservative.
Romney also had a healthy understanding of separating his religious views from his governing as stated in one of his speeches on the subject that was similar to JFK’s famous speech about Catholicism.
Anyhow, I see I’m wasting my precious time trying to change anti-Mormon bigotry.
No I’m not Mormon and I think the religion is rather odd, but I wasn’t voting for his religion.
I like u but that was not cogent
And yes we voted
Everyone I know voted down here and for the white guy
Nice work ken but the stupids here must have their fun
I have no EXACT figures, but it seems to me that over 99% of FR posters have called the CHOICE we were presented in this election "the lesser of two evils".
Excuse me for merely going along with the 'wisdom of the crowd'.
Too bad he didn't walk the walk of an electable conservative in other areas. His record was kinda pathetic; don't you agree?
Kinda like Tom Cruise does his from his acting: wouldn't you agree?
No; you are wasting your time going allow with the MORMONs posting on FR who constantly TRY do deflect abhorance the facts of their chosen religion, onto the individuals who are deceived by it.
Too bad you and countless other did not heed 'the wisdom of the CHRISTIANs' when you where told LONG ago that in would be harder for a MORMON to be elected in a Christian founded country than that old camel and needle story.
Ya go to war with the weapons ya got.
If the prove to be inadequate to win; you'd better get better weapons next time.
"Es un pobre obrero que culpa a sus herramientas."
Some analyst (I forget who) figured out that GOP voters in some large states -- CA and upstate NY, for example-- were not aggressively pursued by the Romney campaign, due to its focus on electoral vote-rich swing states like Ohio and Florida.
In other words, the popular vote total was viewed as less critical than the electoral vote total. Which is undeniably true.
Was this a smart strategy? I have to say that even though Romney lost, I don't see a flaw in the reasoning here.
Why? Because the GOP is never going to get the electoral votes of CA and NY, unless those states were to change their election laws and begin to award electoral votes proportionally. Which is not going to happen.
One more time slowly and distinctly in the hope it will penetrate .
I was no fan of Romney during the nomination process.
Once he was te nominee, AND HENCE THE ONLY ALTERNATIVE to 4 more years of a Obama, it was the duty of everyone who opposed the POS to vote for Romney. The fools like you ignored the wisdom of Reagan, and W F Buckley. Until people like you learn to grow up and vote like adults we will see nothing but more Obamas and Pelosis in power.
Enjoy the next 4 years, don’t bitch, you earned what’s coming.
What MORE do you want? I voted straight Republican but for one guy.
You’ll accept a non-perfect candidate, but not a non-perfect voter.
Oh well; see you in four years.
Perhaps the powers that be will run a better candidate for president.
I didn’t want the last one.
Sorry that displeases you so much.
It's not that simple. Who stayed home? Who didn't vote for the top of the ticket or senator too?
Romney was not a drag on the Republican party. The Republican party was a drag on him. Aaron Blake pointed out in the Washington Post that Romney ran ahead of most of the Republican Senate candidates: He did better than Connie Mack in Florida, George Allen in Virginia, Tommy Thompson in Wisconsin, Denny Rehberg in Montana, Jeff Flake in Arizona, Pete Hoekstra in Michigan, Deb Fischer in Nebraska, Rick Berg in North Dakota, Josh Mandel in Ohio, and of course Todd Akin in Missouri and Richard Mourdock in Indiana. In some cases Romney did a lot better. (He also did slightly better than Ted Cruz in Texas, a race Blake for some reason ignored.)
None of those candidates were as rich as Romney, and almost all of them had more consistently conservative records than he did. It didnt help them win more votes. The only Republican Senate candidates who ran significantly ahead of Romney were people running well to his left in blue states, and they lost too.
This isn't bad as an analysis of the GOP, but I'm still waiting for a better analysis of the results.