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Kroger to Slash Hourly Workers to Avoid Obamacare Penalties
Flopping Aces ^ | 11/4/2012 | Doug Ross

Posted on 11/12/2012 12:05:46 PM PST by tobyhill

Operative Faith reveals that Kroger will soon join the ranks of Durden Restaurants and slash the hours of its non-exempt (hourly) workers to avoid millions in Obamacare penalties.

To give you a sense of Kroger’s size and importance, its sales last year were $90 billion and it employs nearly 350,000 people. Most of its jobs are hourly and the vast majority of workers are neither millionaires or billionaires.

Faith is a mid-level manager at Kroger and reports the dire news:

Last week we found out that, beginning in January, any employee who is not full-time at that point,will be limited to 28 hours per week and all new hires will be subject to the same policy.

Currently, part-time employees can work as many hours as needed.

Many Kroger employees, I believe, will be shocked to find out about this new policy.

(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012; bhoeconomy; bholayoffs; bhomcjobs; democrathealthcare; democrats; economy; elections; forwardtohell; fuobamavoters; hopeychangey2; jobs; layoffs; mcjobs; obama; obamacare; socialisthealthcare
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Yep. Part time workers are better candidates for food stamps for life. What better way to destroy a families ability to be self sufficient and make sure both parents have to work than to pass a law that favors part-time vs. full time work?
101 posted on 11/12/2012 1:10:13 PM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Vendome

Unless they can strike with pay I don’t see too many employees falling on the sword for unions.


102 posted on 11/12/2012 1:11:48 PM PST by Morris70
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To: tobyhill
To those who chose to NOT vote for Mitt... how do you feel NOW idiot:-)
103 posted on 11/12/2012 1:13:22 PM PST by geo40xyz (BE PREPARED: Geo The Engineer so smart, he doesn't need a TelePrompter to speak. Unlike the AH:-))
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To: tobyhill

HOORAY Kroger and HOORAY Durden Restaurants! Prepare. Persevere.


104 posted on 11/12/2012 1:13:43 PM PST by PGalt
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To: randita

Thanks very much and the locales explain why I’ve never heard of the chain.


105 posted on 11/12/2012 1:16:03 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Secret Agent Man
This is all to change the concept of full-time to less than 40 hours a week, to be like Europe.

You may be on to something. Get them all to voluntarily cut hours. Then double the minimum wage and tell them they're on the hook for Obamacare anyhow.


106 posted on 11/12/2012 1:16:14 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: tobyhill

This is TOOO funny. At least, at the Krogers closest to me, I would venture to say that 60% of the employees are “minorities” who probably voted for the messiah. ‘Couldn’t happen to a better bunch. There ARE consequences.


107 posted on 11/12/2012 1:16:25 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: GoodDay

“I’m predicting about 15% unemployment in one year”

Not so sure about that, if those currently unemployed are willing to work part time, there should be a ton of those jobs available real soon. NOW I think U6 which takes into consideration under employment that will be >= 20%


108 posted on 11/12/2012 1:18:20 PM PST by DAC21
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To: jurroppi1
Perfect! That is exactly the sort of feedback I'm looking for!

I want honest numbers.

(That was also a line where the hidden column lacked a hard date)

Fixed for next post. Thanks!

109 posted on 11/12/2012 1:20:17 PM PST by null and void (America - Abducted by Aliens...)
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To: Varsity Flight

Yep.

They will announce a deal to fix the “fiscal cliff”. Obama will be praised for “fixin the economy”.

The deal will prove how unserious they are at actually doing anything about the spendaholism. The markets and economy will crash.


110 posted on 11/12/2012 1:21:29 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: tobyhill
Young Frankenstein Mob Pictures, Images and Photos
111 posted on 11/12/2012 1:30:15 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: tobyhill
Most Kroger employees are Obama supporters.

Did you take a poll of their three hundred thousand employees?

112 posted on 11/12/2012 1:30:35 PM PST by newzjunkey (Obama thanks Pontius Pilate Freepers for giving him four more years!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Nope. Watch for all but 1lane at checkout to be automated. Stocking farmed out to contract companies. Employers will get very creative in finding ways to skirt this law.


113 posted on 11/12/2012 1:31:01 PM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: tobyhill

They’re UFCW union, right? Too bad.


114 posted on 11/12/2012 1:37:21 PM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: Rebelbase; null and void; tobyhill; My Favorite Headache
If you guys are interested in keeping tabs on layoffs etc. since Maobama's election, perhaps you can coordinate.

MyFavoriteHeadache (Doug) has posted many stories on the subject.

115 posted on 11/12/2012 1:39:01 PM PST by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: AAABEST

Yes. He inspired the list, I’m also using dailyjobcuts.com as a source.


116 posted on 11/12/2012 1:40:58 PM PST by null and void (America - Abducted by Aliens...)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Third option, it will accelerate automation. IIRC Kroger is unionized, F&CW?

Replace the people with self-serve scanners.


117 posted on 11/12/2012 1:44:42 PM PST by SargeK
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To: lodi90

I understood that Darden runs more than just Red Lobster. I was using brevity for comedic effect. Their national headquarters are in my backyard (Orlando).

And while I don’t make it a point to wish ill on people, it’s only fitting that they’re one of big groups coming out with announcements like this.


118 posted on 11/12/2012 1:45:32 PM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: sarge83

I find nothing wrong with private sector unions in companies that are not monopolies or in the too big to fail category.

The problem is with public unions who are in a monopoly situation and with unions that are in companies that are too big to fail because then they can blackmail the public for almost anything they want.

But private sector unions not in a monopoly and not too big to fail have a vested interest in having the company succeed and not fail. Bankruptcy is the ultimate check on union power here.

So I do not like the bashing of the Kroger unions here.


119 posted on 11/12/2012 1:47:06 PM PST by staytrue
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To: tobyhill

Kerp in mind that Kroger isn’t just “Kroger”. There are about 25 chains that fall under tbe Kroger umbrella. For my area their supermarkets are King Soopers and City Market. You can scroll through the Kroger family of stores at the bottom of this link: http://www.kroger.com/corporate_brands/Pages/default.aspx


120 posted on 11/12/2012 1:48:39 PM PST by FreedomForce (Living in the Age of American Soft Despotism)
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To: paul544

“Disagree... If an employer has X number of hours of work to be done but has to limit each employee to less than is needed, the only other option they have is to hire more workers. A larger number of workers doing less work essentially accomplish the same amount of work.”

There are other options. There’s no reason your friendly neighborhood grocery store couldn’t cut their hours of operation by a few hours a day. Don’t need as many union thug employees that way.

When I was growing up in a small town, stores were open from 9 to 5. The bigger of the 2 grocery stores stayed open until 6 during the summer months.

No need to have quite as many stores either, nor quite so many square feet in each store. Unemployed food-stampers have lots of extra time, let them ride the socialist bus to the other end of the city to find a store that’s still operating. At least, when the bus driver union thugs aren’t on strike.

Fewer people will be buying the high-margin speciality foods. Some “hypermarkets” will gradually become “supermarkets”, supermarkets will become grocery stores, grocery stores will become dry goods stores. Maybe a blacksmith in the back if 0bama gets his wish on fuel prices.

One doesn’t have to go Galt all at once. There are many ways, large and small.


121 posted on 11/12/2012 1:53:10 PM PST by Jordo
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To: randita

Wegman’s. It’s the best. We shopped there when we lived in Corning, NY. Until then, my fave was Carr’s in Alaska.


122 posted on 11/12/2012 1:57:29 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: AppyPappy

This new working schedule will take sometime to work itself out but many compaines will be doing the same. Thus an employee will work 28 or less hours at one company and pick up additional hours at another.

The Walmart I use has reduced the number of checkers both full lane and 15 items or less and forcing more people to use the self scan lanes or stand in line longer for a checker.


123 posted on 11/12/2012 1:57:39 PM PST by deport
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To: SargeK

Krogers is constantly redesigning their checkout approaches so no doubt they are already in the process of organizing a special solution for this challenge. The bright side is no healthcare or benefits are going to be lost since I don’t know any retail chains that offer more than 30-35 hours a week (or 15-20) even now.


124 posted on 11/12/2012 2:07:46 PM PST by erlayman
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To: null and void

I believe the numbers that occurred just before the election were in the neighborhood of 300 - 500 (could be higher than that), but I can’t be sure of internals. They also closed a plant in MN and combined parts of it with another in MN during this chunk of the layoff to the best of my knowledge.

I’ve seen the numbers you posted quoted by other FReepers (not necessarily quoting from you in any way), so I wanted to set the record straight.


125 posted on 11/12/2012 2:08:11 PM PST by jurroppi1
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To: deport

This new working schedule will take sometime to work itself out but many compaines will be doing the same. Thus an employee will work 28 or less hours at one company and pick up additional hours at another.


Just because it is only 28 hours does not mean it won’t be a 5 day a week job. Employers want full availability. Finding 2 compatible part time jobs can be difficult especially in the service industries.


126 posted on 11/12/2012 2:08:23 PM PST by lodi90
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To: tobyhill

Two workers doing 20 hours per week instead of one worker doing 40 hours.

It is a job-stimulus plan!


127 posted on 11/12/2012 2:09:49 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant
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To: jsanders2001

I said Obamacare would destroy America and Ii begged people to vote for Romney so we could repeal Obamacare.

Nope! Millions of conservatives again refused to vote for the RINO.

Now it is too late and America is doomed. These same conservatives talk about 2016 as if anything we could do in 2016 would stave off the collapse.

We are getting what we deserve.


128 posted on 11/12/2012 2:10:15 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Pray to God. Apologize to your children.)
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To: tobyhill

That’s a dirty little secret about Obamacare. Expect a lot of people to suddenly be part-time or independent contractors.


129 posted on 11/12/2012 2:11:48 PM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

I think they are doing this on purpose...

They did this in France in order to have more people “employed”.


130 posted on 11/12/2012 2:11:55 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: AppyPappy

That is really sad. Krogers (King Soopers here) gave my daughter her first job and are known for giving teens jobs when so many other places can’t or won’t.


131 posted on 11/12/2012 2:18:12 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit (School is prison for children who have commited the crime of being born. (attr: St_Thomas_Aquinas))
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To: tobyhill

“Many Kroger employees, I believe, will be shocked to find out about this new policy.”

Many of them voted for Obama, and will be astounded by this. They simply aren’t educated enough in business ways to know this would happen.

However, they will know all about the endangered birds in the rainforest canopy. And they will wrack their brains over how those republicans can be so petty as to simply want to punish them like this. So sad.


132 posted on 11/12/2012 2:18:12 PM PST by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: jurroppi1

Yeah, that’s why is vital the numbers be accurate, and why I appreciate you pitching in.


133 posted on 11/12/2012 2:21:37 PM PST by null and void (America - Abducted by Aliens...)
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To: SargeK

Here, King Soopers (Krogers) is only partially unionized, deli workers, butchers, I think.


134 posted on 11/12/2012 2:24:01 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit (School is prison for children who have commited the crime of being born. (attr: St_Thomas_Aquinas))
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To: Buckeye McFrog
....and he thinks it's pretty cool he can stay on dad's health insurance till age 26.

He won't think that if his Dad works at Krogers...:>)

135 posted on 11/12/2012 2:25:56 PM PST by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: napscoordinator
Kroger? Goodness it has been 30 years since I shopped there. I just hope Wagman’s are able to keep the exact way they operate. Wagman’s is one of the top grocery stores in the United States and maybe the world.

No reason to think Wegmans will be any different unless it wants to go the way of K-Mart, J. C. Penney, and Kodak by espousing liberal-friendly policies even if the policies kill the business.

136 posted on 11/12/2012 2:33:55 PM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: erlayman

My son works for Walmart, full time, has for 3.5 years, with his coworkers.


137 posted on 11/12/2012 2:39:12 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit (School is prison for children who have commited the crime of being born. (attr: St_Thomas_Aquinas))
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To: lodi90

It’ll take some working out but many people work a couple of jobs now. With many companies rescheduling their workers time to max out at 28 hours/week there will opps for working two jobs. Ingenuity will show itself over time.


138 posted on 11/12/2012 2:46:50 PM PST by deport
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To: Darren McCarty
Besides the WRIST - Worker Reduction In Scheduled Time category, what should we call these newly minted contractors?

PICNIC - Previous Internal Contributor, Now Independent Contractor

PENISES - Prior Employees Now Independent Self-Employed Staff

or

LUNATIC - Laid-off Unemployed Now A Temporary Independent Contractor

139 posted on 11/12/2012 2:47:29 PM PST by null and void (America - Abducted by Aliens...)
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To: tobyhill
I avoid Kroger. I live in a predominately white neighborhood but they put a DART bus station right by the local Kroger and now the only employees are black and they treat anyone who shops there like crap. The problem is that the Management could care less so I quit shopping there.

Ours in Las Colinas is outstanding.
140 posted on 11/12/2012 2:58:45 PM PST by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

And the cost of health care in a low wage part time economy will skyrocket for Seniors and regular employees to way over 2 trillion, along with pizza and everything else,


141 posted on 11/12/2012 3:04:05 PM PST by erlayman
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To: Faith

We have plenty of them in Virginia, too. They’re the most overpriced grocery store I know if (thanks, union). Items routinely cost twice the price other stores charge.


142 posted on 11/12/2012 3:10:53 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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To: deport
With many companies rescheduling their workers time to max out at 28 hours/week...

Remember those advertisements around Labor Day.....
"Unions brought you the 40 hour work week"......

Well, Øbama brings you the 56 hour work week....

Froward

143 posted on 11/12/2012 3:17:03 PM PST by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: CatherineofAragon
They’re the most overpriced grocery store I know if (thanks, union). Items routinely cost twice the price other stores charge.

Are you familiar with Kroger's pricing system? Essentially they price goods according to your ability to pay, based on the economic make-up of the area. We pay through the nose where I live.

144 posted on 11/12/2012 3:27:40 PM PST by Faith
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Fly in the ointment here is that they will need to nearly double the number of part-time employees on the payroll in order to cover all their shifts. And as it is, you can barely find enough people at those wages with some semblance of a work ethic to fill those shifts now.

They will work something out with some other place nearby, wherein each will share their employees with the other. An employee will work 20 hours/week at Kroger, and 20 hours at the other place. That way no employee will work too many hours at any single employer.

145 posted on 11/12/2012 3:40:48 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (political correctness is communist thought control, disguised as good manners)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
as it is, you can barely find enough people at those wages with some semblance of a work ethic to fill those shifts now.

With the massive layoffs occurring now and in the next few years, people will be clamoring for those jobs. The illegals and illiterates will have plenty of competition.

146 posted on 11/12/2012 3:47:48 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (USA!)
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To: jboot; Hatteras

Sorry I did mean Wegman’s. Biggest rip off? You can get some really good food for relatively cheap prices. I would say that you could get 500 dollars for a family of six (which I have) a month easy.


147 posted on 11/12/2012 3:55:10 PM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: TexasGunLover
I have been to that one a long time ago and it was a good store. I’m referring to the one in North Carrollton, Hebron and Old Denton.
148 posted on 11/12/2012 4:01:43 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: Faith

Hmmm, I didn’t know that. Interesting.


149 posted on 11/12/2012 4:11:34 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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To: Faith

Hmmm, I didn’t know that. Interesting.


150 posted on 11/12/2012 4:11:34 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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