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This Woman Lost Her Job Over What She Said About Obama
The Blaze ^ | November 9, 2012 | by Jason Howerton

Posted on 11/13/2012 2:11:43 PM PST by Mozilla

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To: firebrand

Doctor Zhivago, although obviously I substituted “America” for “Russia.”


51 posted on 11/13/2012 4:09:45 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Mozilla

So sorry Denise. Now, if it was between 2001-2009 and you said the same about GWBush, you’d have gotten a promotion.


52 posted on 11/13/2012 4:12:14 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Let the Dems destroy the economy!)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Have to disagree. That word is loaded with centuries of hatred. The way blacks use it is completely different. It should be avoided by any non-black person with a shred of humanity.


53 posted on 11/13/2012 4:13:12 PM PST by firebrand
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To: jessduntno
Not saying what she said was right, buuuuuuuttt...

Well, she should be able to say whatever she wants to say. And, as long as there is no government reprisal, then the First Amendment still stands.

Of course, she's a complete moron for thinking she could put it on Facebook and not suffer consequences. And, I suspect, she couldn't explain the First Amendment if she even knows it exists.

54 posted on 11/13/2012 4:24:59 PM PST by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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To: TNCMAXQ
They will use her as an example to make it sound like all Republicans think the way she does.

Of course. Lying is like breathing to the left.

55 posted on 11/13/2012 4:38:40 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: AndyTheBear
“She deserved what she got for that disgusting post! “

Disgusting??? Why? I'll bet that many African Americans (all Blacks don't come from Africa) have called Obama a nigger. Now this is an actual word. It's NOT the “N” word. Negro was used as the official name for their “race” for most many, many years. In textbooks and in the common language. Nigger, was a slang word for Negro. It was used in the common language at least through the fifties. Somehow it has become verbal Kryptonite. I say screw the word police.

As far as the other part goes, I wouldn't cry either, as I believe Obama is “Evil”

We must stand up for free speech in this country. If we don't, we will lose it forever.

56 posted on 11/13/2012 4:39:11 PM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: faucetman
Oh, and by the way, Obama ISN'T some “nice” man with a couple nice kids. Dennis Rader (the BTK Killer) was a church going, Cub Scout Leader had two kids.
57 posted on 11/13/2012 4:48:05 PM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: faucetman

Amen. Why does this word hold so much power? Because the radical, marxist RACIST LEFT gave power to it. When the dirtbag lowlifes like sharpton, “king” malik shabazz, “reverend” wright, et al, are held to the same standard as we are, then I might give a rats ass.


58 posted on 11/13/2012 4:53:28 PM PST by 383rr (Those who choose security over liberty deserve neither; GUN CONTROL= SLAVERY)
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To: firebrand

Oh, please, don’t try to sell that stuff to me. The way blacks use it is “different”, LOL? It’s the same WORD. You might be willing to fall in line with politically correct demands of overlooking black behavior while condemning the same from whites, but I reject double standards.

A “shred of humanity”.....please, spare me the dramatics. Besides, if the n-word is so loaded with hatred, shouldn’t you be rushing off to the black community to preach to THEM about using it?


59 posted on 11/13/2012 5:04:31 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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To: faucetman
We must stand up for free speech in this country. If we don't, we will lose it forever.

I do not think that freedom of speech necessarily means protecting one's job from the repercussions of saying something that offends people nor protects one's Facebook account from the repercussions of using foul language.

And yes, the "N" word used in the context that she used it was obnoxiously foul language, whatever its origin, and whatever is fair usage in different social contexts. And it seems reasonable for both a company and a site like Facebook to be able to ban or fire people for being obnoxious.

Now if it came to actually putting her in jail for using the "N" word, that would be violating her freedom of speech. On the other hand, if the Secret Service really had cause to believe she was serious about the other stuff, then she could reasonably be in trouble for that. God willing though, she was not serious about it....but its still quite obnoxious to talk like that...and YES I know the left does it all the time. So lets do the right thing, and call this girl down on it, and then turn to them and call them down on it as well!

60 posted on 11/13/2012 5:37:38 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: teeman8r
If it was a black man calling Bush a Nigger and saying the same thing, he wouldn’t have been fired.
61 posted on 11/13/2012 5:44:57 PM PST by factmart
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To: faucetman
Oh, and by the way, Obama ISN'T some “nice” man with a couple nice kids. Dennis Rader (the BTK Killer) was a church going, Cub Scout Leader had two kids.

I do not believe that Obama is a particularly nice man more like a cross between a leftwing demagogue, hardened union boss, and Neville Chamberlain....that is plenty bad enough to have in the Oval office.

62 posted on 11/13/2012 5:56:18 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: firebrand
That word is loaded with centuries of hatred.

Like "cracker, whitey, or honky"?

Most Caucasians I know have been civil for decades. I don't see anyone else coming around on that point.

Not, mind you, that I will be less civil, but enough of giving one group a pass and holding the bar higher for another.

Double standards do nothing but cause enmity in the future--one of the reasons relations are deteriorating instead of improving.

63 posted on 11/13/2012 6:06:30 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: jessduntno

I remember people hanging Sarah Palin in effigy in Weho. I remember people calling Bush a chimp, and chimpy. And the treatment of Condoleeza Rice, man... Yeah, it’s definitely only a sin if we do it.


64 posted on 11/13/2012 7:58:09 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: AndyTheBear

“The freedom of speech does not protect one from the repercussions of its misuse.”

Yeah, just ask anyone who suffered repurcussions from threatening Bush.

Oh, wait . . .


65 posted on 11/13/2012 8:18:59 PM PST by MollyGoose
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To: Smokin' Joe

I agree that there should not a double standard on such words. Of coure words like “whitey” shouldn’t be used either.

And I agree that most white people have been civil for decades.

Still don’t think white people should use that word.

Historically, there is no comparison. As a race, we have treated blacks badly in this country, so the word carries the weight of all that sorrowful history. We’re not responsible for it individually, but we shouldn’t perpetuate the anguish by using that unspeakable word that has been uttered in hatred and caused so much pain.


66 posted on 11/13/2012 8:34:08 PM PST by firebrand
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To: CatherineofAragon

I have worked with words my entire adult life. They have different meanings in different contexts. I am quite tired of that argument that black people use the word so it’s okay if we use it.

The people who are arguing for no more double standards—i.e., black people shouldn’t use “whitey” and the like—have a better case.

Even that does not mean two wrongs make a right. Are we back in grade school that we still don’t understand that saying?


67 posted on 11/13/2012 8:44:00 PM PST by firebrand
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To: MollyGoose
Yeah, just ask anyone who suffered repurcussions from threatening Bush.

Yes, I pointed out the same double standard in post 4.

I do not believe however rights stem from egalitarianism...if a little boy sees his brother sneak a cookie from the jar, it does not give the little boy the right to sneak a cookie for himself even though it understandably offends the little boy's sense of justice.

68 posted on 11/13/2012 9:14:35 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: firebrand
...we shouldn’t perpetuate the anguish by using that unspeakable word that has been uttered in hatred and caused so much pain.

Agreed, but we should demand similar civility on all fronts. We have that right as well.

A dwindling fraction of the population even recalls Jim Crow, much less slavery, and I won't even get into the myriad misconceptions summarily perpetrated about the latter.

If we are indeed ever to become unhyphenated Americans again we need to make a clean break, not give one group a pass, which only creates fresh resentment.

69 posted on 11/13/2012 9:41:30 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Mozilla

Sounds like another leftist trying to make conservatives look bad.


70 posted on 11/13/2012 9:52:22 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Smokin' Joe

We certainly have a right to voice our opinion.

It also might be all right to give this one group a pass—not on calling other people names but on using language that has its own meaning for them as they like, and not acting as if that were a pass to use the word wrongly.

My opinion.


71 posted on 11/14/2012 1:05:02 AM PST by firebrand
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To: firebrand

Your lifetime of experience with linguistics, while no doubt fascinating (words interest me, as well) doesn’t change the fact that the screaming outrage over use of the n-word is manufactured and hypocritical. If we’re going to allow ourselves to be manipulated that way, then we need to be consistent, and we must start shrieking the next time we hear someone use the term “wop.”

Two wrongs do not make a right; you’re correct. In the same vein, one wrong is no worse than another when it comes to racial/ethnic slurs, no matter how successfully one particular group has been portrayed as a victim.

And I utterly reject the foolishness that blacks can address each other routinely with the word, while wanting to hang whites for it. Be cowed into that mindset if you wish.


72 posted on 11/14/2012 8:11:22 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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To: firebrand
"It also might be all right to give this one group a pass—not on calling other people names but on using language that has its own meaning for them as they like, and not acting as if that were a pass to use the word wrongly."

For the love of all that is holy....

Has it not occurred to you that giving blacks one pass after another has been disastrous?

It seems white guilt has even penetrated FR, sadly.

73 posted on 11/14/2012 8:44:04 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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