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An American Oil Find That Holds More Than All of OPEC (Several Times of All Oil Ever Used)
ABC News ^ | November 13, 2012 | Alan Farnham

Posted on 11/13/2012 2:12:11 PM PST by lbryce

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To: KeyLargo

This is all such artificial manipulation.


51 posted on 11/13/2012 3:18:14 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: null and void

LOL, you know even a lot of FR’s won’t get that.


52 posted on 11/13/2012 3:19:02 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Let the Dems destroy the economy!)
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To: Hot Tabasco

—— Where the frack did all those dinosaurs come from? ——

They live in the center of the earth.


53 posted on 11/13/2012 3:20:17 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Fledermaus
I'm beginning to appreciate that more every day.
54 posted on 11/13/2012 3:32:18 PM PST by null and void (America - Abducted by Aliens...)
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To: Hot Tabasco

it’s not actually fossil fuels, do a little research and you’ll see where it actually comes from, and yes it’s renewable.


55 posted on 11/13/2012 3:43:34 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: PMAS
Why all of a sudden are wee seeing all of these stories about abundant oil in the US and the US has more that Saudi Arabia ?

Thats my question too. With this guy in the White House (and with "mainstream" sources like ABC) I always feel like there is a triple game being played, and here's another one.

56 posted on 11/13/2012 3:49:04 PM PST by marron
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I know shale oil and gas is not new, I was referring to all of the talk about it from the MSM all of a sudden.


57 posted on 11/13/2012 4:06:58 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

“Obama will make sure we can’t access it!”

My thought exactly. The EPA will end this dream.


58 posted on 11/13/2012 4:13:12 PM PST by pallis
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To: Bulwyf
do a little research and you’ll see where it actually comes from, and yes it’s renewable.

Ya think? You're not kidding me are you?

59 posted on 11/13/2012 4:15:19 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: hollywood

Maybe because now 0zero clearly owns this economy and they have got no other plan.


60 posted on 11/13/2012 4:17:43 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: my small voice

Maybe because now 0zero clearly owns this economy and they have got no other plan.


61 posted on 11/13/2012 4:18:14 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: marron

Maybe because now 0zero clearly owns this economy and they have got no other plan.


62 posted on 11/13/2012 4:19:10 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: TheDon

“I guess peak oil got pushed out a few years....”

Not only that, but peak oil is a myth. It is entirely likely that NEW oil continues to be made every day from molten lava, not dinosaur poop.


63 posted on 11/13/2012 4:26:03 PM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: lbryce

Too Bad!

Once modern US technology begins to focus on the promising oil finds in the low cost countries, this find may be small in relation to the unfound oil fields in third world areas.

Yet, a barrel in the ground, over human posterity, will be worth more than an oil tanker in the near future bush!


64 posted on 11/13/2012 4:31:55 PM PST by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: null and void
No point in drilling, we wouldn’t see the oil for ten years...

That's what they've been saying for at least 30 years.

65 posted on 11/13/2012 4:33:54 PM PST by luvbach1 (The late, great United States)
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To: lbryce

So, is THIS the “peak oil” they’ve been talking about for all this time ?


66 posted on 11/13/2012 4:36:59 PM PST by sawmill trash (Just clinging)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Where the frack did all those dinosaurs come from?

Sweet, sweet dino-sex....all to the tunes of Barry White.


67 posted on 11/13/2012 4:43:30 PM PST by Kolath
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Technology always improves. So long as “men of the mind” can think and dream then nothing is impossible.

Unfortunately, Obama places a dunce camp.


68 posted on 11/13/2012 4:45:59 PM PST by Kolath
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY
Obama will make sure we can’t access it!

Good. Let's not give that SOB credit for a healthy economy.

69 posted on 11/13/2012 4:48:22 PM PST by EnquiringMind
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To: Sequoyah101

Been there near about fifty years ago. Did my undergrad work in Colorado. A professor took us there and the rocks in the
fire ring burned. Ah we couldn’t even take a beer along on the outing.

OBTW the smell of the burning rocks was rather overpowering.

Caddis


70 posted on 11/13/2012 4:50:28 PM PST by palmerizedCaddis (Envy and couveting you neighbors stuff is the new American Dream)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The retort process takes three barrels of water to make a barrel of oil.

http://m.rand.org/pubs/monographs/2005/RAND_MG414.sum.pdf

71 posted on 11/13/2012 4:52:03 PM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: lbryce

I hereby dub this oil find the Colorado-Utah Reserve for Animal Preservation, CRAP for short. This “pristine” wilderness is a vital source of natural heritage that should remain unspoiled by rapacious BIG OIL fiends who just want to poison all the kittens and puppies.

-Pres. Obama Signing Statement, Executive Order Entitled “The Presidential Destroy America Initiative” of 2012.


72 posted on 11/13/2012 5:10:16 PM PST by JewishRighter
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To: crusty old prospector

And it loses all the water.


73 posted on 11/13/2012 5:35:45 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: crusty old prospector

OK I looked. No diagram of a retorting process unfortunately.

A casual reference to minerals in spent shale appears to look ominous. While the oil is in the shale it keeps the minerals from getting washed out. But afterward the degreased shale can leach biologically toxic minerals. Greenies are going to have a cow over this, unless the Won Twice tells them to close their yappers whereupon they WILL obey.


74 posted on 11/13/2012 5:40:30 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: luvbach1

N.V. is poking fun at them.

If this thing gets underway then it will show once more that given the political will, little else stands in the way. A big IF, of course. I’d not be surprised however if there is a concerted attempt to use solar before its prime, and once more we get taxpayer fattened bust after bust after bust.


75 posted on 11/13/2012 5:45:17 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: luvbach1

I understand N&V’s sarcasm.


76 posted on 11/13/2012 6:03:16 PM PST by luvbach1 (The late, great United States)
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To: taildragger
If I am not mistaken, this shale is different than extracting via fracking.

You are correct.

The Green River oil shales are mainly near the surface or in outcrop, and need to be cooked to extract the oil. Whether in situ or mined and heated in a kiln, the process is expensive and not likely to get anything other than research approval in the near future. Large scale surface mining is highly unlikely with current environmental laws.

Unocal had a mining/extraction project at Parachute, CO in the 80s, which shut down when oil prices collapsed in '86.

77 posted on 11/13/2012 6:15:53 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Sorry to beat a dead horse.

Water Consumption. About three barrels of water are needed per barrel of shale oil produced. Water availability analyses for oil shale development were conducted in the early 1980s. These analyses indicated that the earliest constraining factors would be limitations in local water supply systems, such as reservoirs, pipelines, and groundwater development. A bigger issue is the impact of a strategic-scale oil shale industry on the greater Colorado River Basin. Demands for water are expected to continue to grow for the foreseeable future, making the earlier analyses regarding oil shale development outdated.

78 posted on 11/13/2012 8:05:17 PM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: palmerizedCaddis

I guess you know what clinker is then?


79 posted on 11/13/2012 8:06:52 PM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: lbryce; sickoflibs
I don't know how the scenario will play itself out but this discovery seems to be a godsend for us all.

prediction...the endangered albino ear mite, that only lives in the ear of the homo sexual, half-black african rat, will be found to be more important than recovering that oil...

same goes for any other energy sources in our future, unless its subsidized/grafted wind and solar...

80 posted on 11/14/2012 5:00:44 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: taildragger

Power?


81 posted on 11/14/2012 5:27:55 AM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: Sequoyah101

S101, Your post makes me think you are in the industry. Have you heard about sending microwave exciters down into the shale to excite the oil out? My guess is the power source would be via generator and a cable down to it...


82 posted on 11/14/2012 5:32:14 AM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

From what I’ve seen, you can take a piece of the shale with the oil embedded in it and set it on fire just like coal. But the smell and smoke is still petroleum..........


83 posted on 11/14/2012 6:17:50 AM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: taildragger

Yes but it takes loads of power and some are twitchy about pollution since this stuff is shallow. Someone will crack the insitu goal maybe someday.

Like natural gas hydrates, it’s there but how to get it is the problem


84 posted on 11/14/2012 8:13:42 AM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: Sequoyah101

The use of Thorium reactor “ovens” could provide the long lasting, cleaner radiation, energy sorces necessary for the “heated extraction processes necessary. Water used could be recycled. It would just take national will to accomplish this!


85 posted on 11/14/2012 8:43:57 AM PST by mdmathis6 ("Barry" Xmas to all and have a rapaciously taxable New Year!)
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To: sand88

Future wars won’t actually be over true scarcity but CONTRIVED scarcities, fearsome rumours, specious world views, and rigid ideologies. God has given man everything we would need on this Earth (and perhaps in Space as well) including the offer of His presence in our lives but man rejects that presence. Thus our vision is clouded and short sided with men trying to be “GOD’s” over other men!


86 posted on 11/14/2012 8:51:16 AM PST by mdmathis6 ("Barry" Xmas to all and have a rapaciously taxable New Year!)
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To: mdmathis6

I would agree but there Is no will


87 posted on 11/14/2012 9:34:02 AM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: my small voice
You can't imagine how close you are with your statement. There is “story” going around about something like this and obama is a going to use this to run for a third term,or have a proxy run for him.
88 posted on 11/14/2012 2:34:13 PM PST by painter (Obamahood,"Steal from the working people and give to the worthless.")
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89 posted on 10/05/2013 8:56:07 AM PDT by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: lbryce
This article concerns Green River OIL SHALE, which is currently not economically feasible, in fact far from it. Some claim extraction costs are as low as $80 per barrel, but the truth is well over $100.

SHALE OIL, on the other hand, is economically feasible. These are the deposits we hear about in the Eagle Ford, the Avalon, Bone Springs and Cline (within the Permian Basin), the Bakken and the Monterey/Santos formations.

As for why ABC News would tout oil shale, use the MSM rule that everything is political. The negatives are stuffed at the end of the article. My guess is that they are trying to portray everything as coming up roses under Obama.

90 posted on 10/05/2013 9:39:10 AM PDT by Kennard
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