I wonder if the computer models will be as accurate as the globull warming models?
Posted on 11/15/2012 8:43:01 AM PST by SeekAndFind
You should see the number of ‘nurses’ bungling the mandatory flu shots for ‘healthcare employees’ in Red Hampshire...injecting in the wrong location has left employees with painful swelling and other unpleasant consequences...a number of employees are freaking out...
I wonder if the computer models will be as accurate as the globull warming models?
RE: Good luck finding a doctor that accepts new Medicare patients!
If ObamaCare can force a Catholic institution to pay for someone’s contraceptive and abortificent, I can’t see why a law can’t be passed to FORCE Doctors ( under pain of fines or license revocation ) to ACCEPT Medicare patients.
52% of Roman Catholics did not care about what their church stands for and voted for The One.
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In Nazi Germany, We elected Adolf Hitler.
First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.
The answer is simple: just redefine the requirements of what it takes to become a doctor. You know - just lower the bar so any dummy can become an MD for a song and a dance. And a small fee.
Voila! Plenty of ‘doctors’ now.
And Kiran Kareti and Krishna Malineni are probably eying moving to Singapore where they can make money with taking the lash of government.
And Kiran Kareti and Krishna Malineni are probably eying moving to Singapore where they can make money without taking the lash of government.
Our dogs’ vet told us there is already a shortage of meds for animals. Some drugs are just going away and there are no replacements. Would have loved to have discussed with him the reasons, but I think he wants to be apolitical with clients.
This is the answer to the INTENDED consequence of doctor shortages. I have recently discovered that some orthopedic surgeons are allowing MA's to give intra-articular injections! I think we will all remember the day of seeing a LNP or PA as the good old days. I punched out and sold my practice this year. I expect many to join me in the coming days and years.
“I suspect soon the medical profession will become like the military....you sign up and get your medical education paid, but in return you will go where they send you for your first 10 years.”
Those programs have existed for a long time. The problem is that there is a heck of a lot of training required after medical school, depending on what you wind up doing. From the day I stepped into medical school it was 13 years before I completed all the training I did to do what I do, 9 of those after I completed medical school. If I had gone the military route, my payback time wouldn’t have started until after those 13 years. I feel privileged being a doc. Always have, but it was a pretty bad investment of my time when looked upon economically. A good part of those 9 years when I was getting advanced training I was moonlighting to pay for loans I’d taken out.
Honestly, I don’t care anymore. I’m just tired of being characterized as a villain, most often by people who have never worked that hard. What’s the point? I would never not do my best for a patient, but the joy is out of it in a big way.
And this will any different how? We already have to Patel’s in Evansville. And several Mohammed’s and Hussain’s. It’s most upsetting when a white-American-male can’t get into med school but put a foreigner in the running, they get it hands down. Not sorry that sounds like I’m racist, I’m not, just tired of the crap.
Worse care, less frequently (as appointments will be rarer than gold), with fewer phone calls returned. Obama, Pelosi and Reid have destroyed our future.
All of what you say is true. Yet when I try to explain it to a dim they just turn off and refuse to process the information.
Government run health care is really a religion to these people. The fantasy that if the “rich” just pay a little more than everybody can have great health care is an outrageous lie.
I lived much of the last 10 years in Europe. I saw how much the middle class pays for government health care. These dim bulbs who voted for the kenyan have no idea how hard reality is about to hammer them.
An NP or PA is as good as an FP--if that NP or PA has lots and lots, years and years, of experience
If he is still wearing braces, run for the hills. The Green ones will kill ya.
We need--trauma surgeons, general surgeons, specialists and internal medicine specialists.
We can deal with the lack of FPs by trying to work NPs and PAs as hard as we can when they are young, so that they become good para-physicians.
That's my 2 cents, not that anyone gives a flip.
I suspect this all comes from the FP licensing boards, or people with a vested financial interest in the dying and increasingly irrelevant specialty of "family practice" --
Unqualified??? How do they get their license(s) to practice? Your state operates no testing boards?
EXPENSIVE. it is EXPENSIVE to educate any medical professional.
It's CHEAP to educate a LAWYER. You find walk down basement law schools all over the place.
In addition, father had access to the medicine man on the reservation, even though it was half a day's drive away. In those day, the feds basically left Native Americans alone. Modern libtards would say they "neglected" us. But I can tell you for a fact that substance abuse was very rare on father's reservation when I visited as a kid. Our people were also generally more healthy and more mobile and quite inclined to leave the reservation as father did, World War II service and the GI Bill of Rights provided him with the ticket out.
Today, the libtards would arrest the medicine man for practicing without a license and encourage the sale of drugs and fire water so they could create a substance abuse problem big enough to establish an agency there to employ more bureaucrats to take care of us.
“Look at how many cases of fraud and/or illness caused by lack of proper medical procedures have been at the hands of foreign doctors and nurses.”
And look at how many people have died from the meningitis outbreak caused by drugs produced in Massachusetts.
Neglect by the Mass Pharmacy Board to investigate complaints about the lab responsible have contributed to the deaths of at least 30 people and the infection of hundreds more. The FDA knew about the sterility problems since 2002. This is foretaste of what to expect on a wide scale when more crooked profiteers protected by corrupt bureaucrats jump into the government health care game.
The “affordable healthcare” bill is a recipe for corruption. The Obama cronies are salivating at the $$ opportunities that Obamacare will unleash.
My cardiologist told me months ago that if the election didn’t go well, he is looking into moving to Australia.
He wasn’t joking.
Yes many said that they would close shop because of Obmama care. And you can bet that the field of doctoring is going to see a whole lot less colleges entry’s. Why go to school for all those years just to live on a Set government paycheck.
My cardiologist told me months ago that if the election didn’t go well, he is looking into moving to Australia.
He wasn’t joking.
Actually there are plenty of vets making more than many doctors. Much lower regulatory costs, quicker receipt of payments with many fewer hassles.
No matter the cause, and no matter how much Obamacare did not address the cause - access to and quality of primary care physicians - I think the general problem is real.
Primary care physicians are not among the most well-rewarded doctors, and yet in the best of settings their role is every bit as important as medical specialists, if not more so in the immediate sense when an adverse health condition arises and medical help is needed.
One of the key roles of a good primary care physician is in initial diagnosis, and in that process recognizing when a medical speciality, or different medical specialities are best suited for either more extensive diagnosis or treatment; or not.
It is a difficuly role in which referral to a medical speciality can be recommended, or failed to be called upon too often (often). When abused - calling on various medical specialities more often than really needed - the process raises health care costs without improving outcomes, and when denied to an excess patients receive inadequate care and excessive times reaching a good resolution of an issue. The health care industry is plagued with both of those problems - too much and too little use of medical specialists - and we can only expect that it is the medical education institutions that fail to produce significant numbers of very good primary care doctors.
The solution does not require any federal program or federal dollars. It requires the medical education to make better use of the dollars they already obtain, particularly in the area of the education of primary care physicians. It would not hurt for those institutions to raise, among their students, the importance of the primary care doctor in making those patient assessments that most correctly and most efficiently employ the servicea of medical specialists.
RE: he is looking into moving to Australia.
1) My Brother trained in U Penn’s Children’s Hospital as a Pediatrician and Neonatologist.
2) He went to Australia years ago on a Fellowship program but had to pass THEIR qualifying exams.
He is now practicing there.
Your cardiologist might have to do the same.
Well Oblather will fix that easily. Just reduce the pay of the veterinarinans--duh.
The three docs in our family circle are closing their practices next year. The Medicaid crowd will have go to the White House for healing from Obama.
It is neither affordable nor healthcare............
That will probably be the answer, tuition's subsidized by the tax payer no doubt.
Problem is, that will lead to many sub standard doctors.
JMO.
When the doctor shortage gets really bad - and it will - dems will solve the ‘problem’ by lowing standards for medical personalel...
“Job Training Programs’ those spread the wealth around boondoggles for inner city neighborhoods will now be the the perferred training centers for medical assistants. Your new ‘doctor’ will by the guy who couldn’t find a job because his rap sheet was too long...
“The roles of nurse pracitioners and physicians assistants will expand to include treatment of most routine illnesses and injuries. “
That is, until they can no longer to pay malparactice. The system gamers will find this out in a NY minute.
“Job Training Programs’ those 'spread the wealth around boondoggles' for inner city neighborhoods will now be the the preferred training centers for medical assistants. Your new ‘doctor’ will be the guy who couldn't find a job because his rap sheet was too long...
Adding primary care doctors and physicians extenders (PAs, NPs)at the expense of specialists will drastically reduce quality. All the major advances in life expectency and QOL are via speciality care. PCPs, NPs and PAs can’t give chemo, put in hips or coronary stents.
This will get very ugly, guaranteed.
What's the point if you can't even understand what they're saying?
A sick, stupid, hungry population is easier to control...
We can't be far off from incorporating "alternative" medicines...that's why the use of leeches and even maggots, has been in the news lately. A blood-letting, anyone?
CRNA’s have a great job and make a very nice living.
Most people do not even know that CRNA’s do most of the anesthesia in this country (under the direction of an anesthesiologist).
“Job Training Programs’ those spread the wealth around boondoggles for inner city neighborhoods will now be the the preferred training centers for medical assistants. Your new ‘doctor’ will be the guy who couldn't find a job because his rap sheet was too long...
The next group to be thrown under the bus will be trial lawyers. Face it, poorly trained government workers will make 'mistakes' and if you or a loved one are one of those 'mistakes' the gov. can't afford allowing YOU to sue.. So the good news is no one will have to worry about malpractice insurance...
The Church certainly doesn't stand for socialism, but you wouldn't know it if you listen to certain members of the hierarchy.
"Boston’s Cardinal O’Malley Batting for Obamacare"
http://angelqueen.org/2012/07/02/bostons-cardinal-omalley-batting-for-obama/
“Get ready for your doctor to be named Mohammed or Patel.”
This is happening now. I took someone to ER last year and was greeted by MDs from Cameroon, Senegal, India, and Ireland. All seemed competent and everything went well, but some of them had unpronounceable (by me) names and all had accents, so many things got repeated.
Not only do they want to put insurance companies out of business, but they also want to restrict the number of doctors so they can control who becomes a doctor. Then they will set it up so doctors get a salary just a bit higher than a subway-sweeper job.
Just like in the Soviet Union.
Look it up.
The big problem will be in Medicaid and Medicare. Both programs work by paying doctors directly for having treated someone. The problem is that reimbursements to doctors keep getting cut. At this point, when most doctors treat Medicaid patients, it is a charity case because they lose money. That’s why it is hard for Medicaid patients to even find a doctor who will treat them.
The result is that Medicaid patients get terrible medical care. The recent Univ VA study of surgical outcomes for Medicaid patients found that they were 97% more likely to die in surgery than privately insured patients. It also found they were 13% more likely to die in surgery than UNINSURED patients.
Most people don’t know this. But the Chief Medicare Actuary has projected the Medicare cuts that are in Obamacare. His estimates are that by 2019, Medicare doctors will be receiving LOWER reimbursements than Medicaid doctors. The inevitable result of this is the same, or worse, medical care for the elderly on Medicare than for the low-income on Medicaid. I have a friend on Medicare whose cardiologist has stopped treating him because of the Medicare cuts coming in Obamacare. He has been unable to find a replacement who is willing to treat him despite a six month search, despite an ongoing cardiology problem that is non-trivial.
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RE: The three docs in our family circle are closing their practices next year.
What on earth are they planning to do next?
Years of Medical training and then what?
Don’t bank on a dental future. I’m a retired DDS who knows many grads with $200,000+ debt and no place to practice ‘decent’ dentistry. Many end up working in ‘dental mill’ clinics. I have personally steered many youth out of the Medical/Dental fields. Unless you have a strong humanitarian urge, stay away.
What could possibly go wrong...
Dramatically increase the number of patients who will abuse the system, since they’ll be getting “free” medical “care.”
Don’t increase the number of doctors...
Watch the number of existing doctors drop, as new price controls are placed on what the doctors are allowed to charge for their services, while the price of the procedures go up, due to new taxes on medical devices and instruments.
Yup, what can go wrong?
Of course, Obama recently admitted that he really can’t handle 7th grade math...
Mark
“The nomenklatura will always receive the best care from the best doctors and the best hospitals”
Maybe. But there will probably be a few doctors that cannot risk the temptation to make a ‘mistake’ on one of their political tormentors.
When Stalin had a stroke, the attending physician was afraid to lay a hand on him.
Yep. Texans might start feeling the other edge of the tort reform sword before long.
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