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West-Murphy race hangs in balance as St. Lucie County prepares to retabulate all early votes
WPTV NewsChannel5 ^ | 11-17-2012 | Alex Sanz

Posted on 11/17/2012 7:45:01 AM PST by smoothsailing

November 17, 2012

West-Murphy race hangs in balance as St. Lucie County prepares to retabulate all early votes

By: Alex Sanz

FORT PIERCE, Fla. - About 100 people milled around Supervisor of Elections Gertrude Walker's office Saturday morning while workers set up batteries of machines to recount eight days of early voting ballots that could effect the tight District 18 congressional race between Patrick Murphy and Allen West.

As of 9:40 a.m. on Saturday, the recount had not begun. Five Sheriff's patrol cars were parked at the entrance to the building on Okeechobee Road, where security was tight.

Saturday morning, Supervisor of Elections Gertrude Walker was nowhere to be seen. Friday night it was reported she had been taken to a hospital.

The decision to recount the ballots came after a state elections auditor on Friday found a box of 306 early ballots that never were counted.

The decision came hours after a St. Lucie County judge denied a request by U.S. Rep. Allen West for a full recount of early votes in the race for the 18th Congressional district.

The recount of every early vote cast for every race was expected to begin on Saturday morning and would include the three days of early voting that were retabulated earlier this week.

Tod Mowery, a member of the Canvassing Board, said the ballots -- which were found in a box -- had not been counted.

"We are pleased the Canvassing Board has done the right thing for the voters of St Lucie County by agreeing to a retabulation of early votes," said West. "All we have been fighting for since the very beginning is to ensure the citizens of this county have their votes accurately and fairly counted."

Earlier on Friday, attorneys for West argued that discrepancies in vote totals and reported equipment malfunctions warranted a recount to ensure the integrity of the race.

Attorneys for Supervisor of Elections Gertrude Walker and Patrick Murphy, the projected winner of the race, countered that Judge Dan Vaughn would have invited error and chaos if he had sided with West.

Vaughn said the elements for a temporary injunction had not been met.

West, the Tea Party favorite who appeared to be headed for defeat, has refused to concede.

After a partial recount of ballots cast during the final three days of early voting in St. Lucie County, Murphy, a Democrat, led West by 1,907 votes or a margin of more than 0.5% — more than what would trigger an automatic recount.

“It stands to reason that if the remaining early votes were to be recounted, additional errors would be uncovered and the tabulation of votes revised accordingly,” Allen West for Congress said in a statement.

The campaign called the recount a “sham” and said all eight days of early voting in St. Lucie County should be have been recounted.

Late Thursday, West's attorneys said they had discovered possible discrepancies in St. Lucie County after a review of early and absentee ballot information.

Nearly 1,000 votes may be in question, according to Tim Edson, Allen West for Congress campaign manager.

In a letter to Secretary of State Ken Detzner, attorneys said 110 early votes were cast in a precinct that didn’t have enough early voters to support the number of votes cast.

Four hundred eighty-eight people cast early votes in precinct 28, they said, but election returns showed 499 early votes were counted.

Attorneys also raised concerns about 121 voters they said had returned absentee ballots but did not appear to have been assigned precinct.

Earlier, volunteer attorneys for West had petitioned Detzner to conduct a preliminary investigation into the election and for a machine recount in three counties. Attorneys Mark Young and Jeffrey Scott Shapiro said 809 votes disappeared when the St. Lucie County Supervisor of Elections retabulated the final three days of early votes on Sunday.

Young and Shapiro said the missing votes, which accounted for 3.2% of the retabulated votes, amounted to an irregularity.

After the retabulation, West received a net increase of 535 votes over Murphy.

“On faith and belief, if this trend continues, for the remaining votes, the final outcome of the Congressional election could change,” Yound and Shapiro said.

David Drury, a Florida Division of Elections bureau chief, arrived in St. Lucie County on Wednesday to begin an audit of how the county’s canvassing board ran the election.

A spokesperson for Detzner said he expected Drury and two others from the state’s Bureau of Voting Systems Certification to remain in St. Lucie County through the weekend.

Last week, a Palm Beach County Circuit Court judge denied a request by West to impound voting machines and recount ballots.

West has less than one week left to contest the election.


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1 posted on 11/17/2012 7:45:11 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Here’s a prayer for west. If it turns out that he does win, I want him to sue on the grounds of racial discrimination.


2 posted on 11/17/2012 7:49:01 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: smoothsailing

Doesn’t most Dem voter fraud occur on election day when they bus in patients with Alzheimers, convicts, illegals, and dead people to vote?


3 posted on 11/17/2012 7:51:09 AM PST by 3Fingas
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To: 3Fingas

Possibly, but here they did it in the dead of night.
Original count had West up by 2000.
Middle of the night old gertie decided to count again and wela! a 4000 vote shift.
Now gertie being a life long dem, black, etc now you wouldn’t think any thing wrong here now would you?
If you do you must be a racist.
But I voted in this district and I have NOOOOO confidence that my vote was recorded correctly.


4 posted on 11/17/2012 7:58:09 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: 3Fingas; annieokie

They still have to hedge their thefts with old fashioned ballot box stuffing, double runs of favorable votes, no runs for unfavorable ones, and leaving or finding boxes of votes stuck away in closets.

Recount updates here:

https://www.facebook.com/AllenWestRepublic?ref=stream


5 posted on 11/17/2012 8:00:13 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: 3Fingas
Doesn’t most Dem voter fraud occur on election day

Early voting gives them WAY more license to cheat.

Just think of all the nursing home patients, dead people etc. can be drummed up in multiple election days as opposed to a single election day.

6 posted on 11/17/2012 8:07:24 AM PST by what's up
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To: Uncle Chip
When will the R's learn anything?

Why aren't those ballots immediatly after the polls close, protected by the Sheriffs office, Nat'l Guard, someone. Escorted under lock and key, (one lock for the R's, one for the D's, by a R & a D along with the proection of the Sheriffs office or other.

IT is TIME.......

7 posted on 11/17/2012 8:12:33 AM PST by annieokie
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To: smoothsailing

Why is it so damn difficult for there to be an accurate count of votes in this country??? Every 2 years it’s the same frickin mess!

There are so many ways to vote, it overwhelms the people who are totally unqualified to supervise or count them. Ballots are not so much complicated as they are loaded with every issue and office imagineable.

We should have a national election on one day and all of the other state and local crap on another day. That would mean, in the national election, each voter would have, at most 3 choices to make (depending on if it’s a non-Presidential election and if they have a senate seat to vote on). The ballots could be prepared and sent out earlier to allow a military and overseas personnel vote that counts. Since the time to vote would be drastically reduced, you would have to have a really good reason to absentee vote and the officials would have more time to verify residency. States could police the voter rolls easier to eliminate the snowbird voters. Voter registration could he easily handled right up to the day before the vote and there would longer be a need for provisional voting.

This past election, I did my homework, and was in and out before all the people, who were at the voting machines when I got to the front of the line, had voted.

I vote for a national election on one day and a state & local election on a separate day.


8 posted on 11/17/2012 8:20:01 AM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: Joe Boucher
Saturday morning, Supervisor of Elections Gertrude Walker was nowhere to be seen. Friday night it was reported she had been taken to a hospital.

So 'ole Gertie came down with the vapors. How convenient.

Maybe she can get a bed at the Mayo Clinic next to Jesse Jackson, Jr.

9 posted on 11/17/2012 8:22:16 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: OrioleFan

When you allow early voting for 10 days you give the cheaters 10 days to cheat. If voting is just one day then they are forced to cram their cheating into one day.


10 posted on 11/17/2012 8:27:00 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: smoothsailing

In this day and age, counterfeit ballots more destructive to the nation than counterfeit currency.


11 posted on 11/17/2012 8:38:19 AM PST by mikrofon (Allen West for Speaker of the House -- for "Revenge!")
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To: OrioleFan

Stop making sense, you’ll upset the Democrats.:-)


12 posted on 11/17/2012 8:42:00 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing
Saturday morning, Supervisor of Elections Gertrude Walker was nowhere to be seen. Friday night it was reported she had been taken to a hospital.

Makes on wonder. A nervous breakdown because of worry about the facts coming out?

13 posted on 11/17/2012 8:43:09 AM PST by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: TruthWillWin

on = one


14 posted on 11/17/2012 8:43:41 AM PST by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: Mamzelle; All
Here’s a prayer for west...
(IMHO :) It seems, 'ol Gertie..has stuffed so many illegal ballots (before/after election night) ,she broke something...
nothing physical, certainly not "her oath of office" after 29+ years on the job take, she got caught stuffing the ballot-box...
"No. 1 rule of Chicago -style Politics: Don't Ever Get Caught...You shall protect the
Political Machine..always protect the Political Machine..your life is forfeited,
the Machine rules all"
..words from a (colleague) Black Chi-town native

15 posted on 11/17/2012 8:57:01 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Anger a Conservative by telling a lie; Anger a Liberal by telling the truth....RWR 8-)
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To: TruthWillWin

They found a box of uncounted ballots in her office yesterday.


16 posted on 11/17/2012 9:02:12 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Uncle Chip; 3Fingas; annieokie

Twitter updates

http://twitter.com/AllenWestRepub


17 posted on 11/17/2012 9:05:15 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Thanks, but my computer hung up (not responding) when I tried that awhile ago. I will just trust someone to tell me what it says.


18 posted on 11/17/2012 9:10:27 AM PST by annieokie
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To: TruthWillWin

She’s counting on the sympathy vote when she shows up at her office in a wheel chair with blanky on her lap.


19 posted on 11/17/2012 9:11:49 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: smoothsailing
Check this out:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/should-allen-west-be-worried-what-we-found-about-one-of-the-election-supervisors-responsible-for-counting-his-votes/

20 posted on 11/17/2012 9:12:32 AM PST by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: annieokie

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
November 17, 2012
Contact:  Michele Hickford
(772) 600-7123
or Michele@AllenWestforCongress.com
 

PATRICK MURPHY ATTEMPTS 

TO SUPPRESS VOTE IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY

 

Stuart, FL - West for Congress campaign manager Tim Edson released the following statement regarding Patrick Murphy's lawyers' attempt to get the 19th Circuit Court Judge to disallow the retabulation of early votes agreed to by the St. Lucie County Canvassing Board:

 

"In a last-ditch effort to suppress the vote, Murphy's lawyers submitted sloppy and incomplete papers to the Court this morning to try to strong-arm the judge into preventing today's retabulation already underway. The Murphy team's motion is procedurally and substantively lacking. With every action attempted, Murphy demonstrates a complete lack of respect and utter disregard for the voters of St. Lucie County.

 

Murphy's efforts bring to mind the dark times in our nation's history when politicians tried to manipulate the law to suppress the votes, and we are appalled by Murphy's apparent contempt for the voting rights of citizens to have their ballots accurately and fairly tabulated.

 

Murphy knows there are votes that have not been counted, but he's taking legal action to ensure the results are certified anyway. Perhaps the Justice Department should investigate Murphy's attempt to steal himself a seat in Congress at the expense of the voters in St. Lucie County."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   

-30-


21 posted on 11/17/2012 9:15:23 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing; annieokie; SWAMPSNIPER; deport
From Facebook Page: Two guys bringing in two boxes to add to the count. Pictures at Facebook page:

"More Ballots via Gary Angelo Galiano

Note: I do not know if these are more boxes found which were never counted or what. I know one box was found in a High School Gym and another box somewhere else.."

22 posted on 11/17/2012 9:17:49 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: TruthWillWin

She’s a real piece of work, isn’t she.

Is it any surprise that she is also a “triple dipper”...

http://potterwilliamsreport.com/2012/11/11/allen-west-vs-florida-election-boards-big-dipper-.aspx


23 posted on 11/17/2012 9:19:58 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

obambi don like dis

The electoral votes ain’t been officially counted yet.

The trail of fraud points right back at odumbi’s butt.

These trust fund regressives don’t wanna go share a cell with hungry Bubba! They will rat the White House Out.


24 posted on 11/17/2012 9:21:56 AM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Joe Boucher

It sounds lIke they use paper ballots, but the ballots are not tabulated at the polling place. Once the ballot is run through the counting machine, is it automatically marked so it can’t be counted again? This system sounds worse than the Palm Beach hanging-chad punch cards. Plus, I heard some ballots were mangled by the tabulating machines.


25 posted on 11/17/2012 9:21:56 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Uncle Chip
You’d think that all boxes would be kept at a central location once counting had been completed after the election.

This fiasco gets more weird as each day passes. I truly don’t think they can verify an iron clad ‘chain of custody’ for the ballot boxes at this date.

26 posted on 11/17/2012 9:22:09 AM PST by deport
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To: Uncle Chip; annieokie; SWAMPSNIPER; deport; Joe Boucher
Thanks for the heads up, Uncle Chip!

From Facebook Page: Two guys bringing in two boxes to add to the count. Pictures at Facebook page: "More Ballots via Gary Angelo Galiano Note: I do not know if these are more boxes found which were never counted or what. I know one box was found in a High School Gym and another box somewhere else.."

27 posted on 11/17/2012 9:28:18 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Uncle Chip
one box was found in a High School Gym and another box somewhere else.."'''''''........

GOOD GRIEF, it is time for WAR. Immediately after the polls close there needs to be ARMED guards stationed around those boxes, every step of the way from precinct to Election HQ.

Republicans should also be there. lock those boxes down, using two locks. One for Republicans and one for the Thieving Democrats.

I know there are poll watchers there, but what are they really doing if not to see where those boxes are going? Please I don't mean to undermine any of those hard workers trying to do the best they can under Democrat RULES.

Am I going mad.......(don't answer that)

28 posted on 11/17/2012 9:29:38 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Uncle Chip; All
ANY NUMBER of ballots not in the SOE office and counted long ago constitutes incompetence, fraud or both.

Someone had to know that ballots were still not accounted for.

29 posted on 11/17/2012 9:44:08 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: annieokie

“one box was found in a High School Gym and another box somewhere else”

One guess who those votes are for.


30 posted on 11/17/2012 9:44:54 AM PST by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: V_TWIN
no doubt....

The republicans down there really need to start taking control, we are in war.

I am not in Florida, but every election across the states affects me and you.

Don't let those boxes get out of your view.

When a box is full......SEAL IT with TAPE, WAX, LOCK BOX and NUMBER those boxes with initials of who sealed them. Whatever it takes.

Each Poll Watcher must be present in the sealing and initial off on the number of the box.

DO NOT LET THOSE BOXES OUT OF SIGHT... escort them to the election board.....make them INITIAL off on each box as they receive it.

I sold Real Estate for many years, and I made everyone SIGN off on every document that was transferred to someone else. DOCUMENT, DOCUMENT, DOCUMENT.

31 posted on 11/17/2012 10:02:41 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Mamzelle

All good advice, but do not be surprised if we learn that we just had our last presidential election.


32 posted on 11/17/2012 10:20:10 AM PST by Elsiejay
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To: smoothsailing; annieokie; SWAMPSNIPER

ALLEN WEST RECOUNT UPDATE via Dale Davis: Just by the numbers:

Our winning number is 3,308
Our winning magic number is 1,907 (still a recount)
Our mandatory recount number is 1,654

254 more votes needed to kick in a three county
mandatory recount of every ballot cast.

If there is a vote swing of just 127 ballots
then we will recount the whole Congressional District 18.
(vote swing means if Murphy lost a vote, and West gained a vote
that is a two vote swing, hence double 127= 254)

So in St. Lucie County:
West......... 52,672
Murphy....... 65,567
difference....(12,895) if this number drops below 12,641
there will be a mandatory recount.
If the (12,895) drops to 9,587 Allen West is the winner, no recount.


33 posted on 11/17/2012 1:19:50 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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Allen West Republic · 13,350 like this
about an hour ago ·
ALLEN WEST RECOUNT UPDATE via Dale Davis: Just by the numbers:
Our winning number is 3,308
Our winning magic number is 1,907 (still a recount)
Our mandatory recount number is 1,654
254 more votes needed to kick in a three county
mandatory recount of every ballot cast.
If there is a vote swing of just 127 ballots
then we will recount the whole Congressional District 18.
(vote swing means if Murphy lost a vote, and West gained a vote
that is a two vote swing, hence double 127= 254)

So in St. Lucie County:
West......... 52,672
Murphy....... 65,567
difference....(12,895) if this number drops below 12,641
there will be a mandatory recount.
If the (12,895) drops to 9,587 Allen West is the winner, no recount.

https://www.facebook.com/AllenWestRepublic/posts/387148831361351


34 posted on 11/17/2012 1:20:51 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

LOL

LOL


35 posted on 11/17/2012 1:24:27 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: smoothsailing

*****ATTENTION ALL SOUTH FLORIDA PATRIOTS****** The Allen West recount is still going on in Ft Pierce. The report from the Boots on the Ground is that some folks are getting tired, and there is more work to do. IF YOU LIVE WITHIN AN HOUR AND WERE THINKING ABOUT JOINING THE CAUSE...PLEASE STEP UP TO THE PLATE! WE NEED SOME RELIEF FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN STANDING & STARING AT BALLOTS FOR 6 HOURS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


36 posted on 11/17/2012 1:27:01 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Some folks may not be aware that the St. Lucie County numbers are only part of the election total. LTC West doesn’t have to win St. Lucie to prevail in the overall race.


37 posted on 11/17/2012 1:27:32 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Uncle Chip

That was funny! Boom-Boom!


38 posted on 11/17/2012 1:32:09 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Uncle Chip

Allen West Republic
11 minutes ago
UPDATE ALLEN WEST RETABULATION: Via @Gary_Galiano
It’s official folks the injunction has been turned down turn down turn down!!!!!!we are home free!!!!!!!!!!!!


39 posted on 11/17/2012 1:36:42 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

That was funny. And now it’s gone off his facebook page.


40 posted on 11/17/2012 1:41:04 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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Judge refuses to halt recount in West-Murphy race

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/recount-begins/nS8pG/


41 posted on 11/17/2012 1:42:07 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Uncle Chip

It’s still there, it’s just moved down the page.


42 posted on 11/17/2012 1:46:33 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: OrioleFan

In VA this year we had a relatively modest ballot: POTUS/Senate/House; 2 Constitutional Amendment questions; 3 (or was it 4) county bond issues. Our state office elections are next year, and local races are 2 years after that ... we have elections every single year, but no confusion between federal and/or state and/or local.

You’d have thought by the time taken for voters to cast their 11/6/12 ballots, that it went on for pages and pages. God forbid voters should look into the questions on the ballot before going to the voting booth and taking half an hour for what could be done in 2 minutes. Especially since they’ve been handed sample ballots by both parties and had PLENTY of time to read while waiting in line.


43 posted on 11/17/2012 1:48:26 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: smoothsailing; All

Judge refuses to halt early vote recount in St. Lucie County

http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2012/nov/17/st-lucie-county-recount-begin-saturday-morning/


44 posted on 11/17/2012 1:49:49 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: smoothsailing
Also in attendance are three members from the U.S. House Administration Committee, who travelled from Washington, DC at the request of West to observe the recount.

That's hopeful --

45 posted on 11/17/2012 1:51:58 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: annieokie
Each Poll Watcher must be present in the sealing and initial off on the number of the box.

I don't think Poll Watchers have that ability. The can observe which at least in my State means they can stand side by side and look directly over the shoulder of any Poll worker. They cannot interfere or participate or become an obstruction.

46 posted on 11/17/2012 1:54:09 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Good! The magic number is 254!


47 posted on 11/17/2012 1:54:51 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Uncle Chip; smoothsailing
ROFL

ROFL........back at ya' Uncle...lol

thanks for the laugh

48 posted on 11/17/2012 3:44:49 PM PST by annieokie
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To: Usagi_yo
OK, I was using Poll Watcher to mean anyone in control, authority.

Now insert AUTHORITY FOR BOTH PARTIES and go with the rest of my scenario lol

49 posted on 11/17/2012 3:51:20 PM PST by annieokie
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To: EDINVA

I grew up in Appomattox, VA and lived/worked in Lynchburg when I got out on my own.

Here in Ohio, we had POTUS, a senator, a congressman, state representatives, county officials, 3 levies, 2 state issues, and a bunch of judges to vote on. Typical for here.


50 posted on 11/17/2012 4:40:53 PM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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