Posted on 11/17/2012 12:41:56 PM PST by Jo Nuvark
According to Article II of the U.S. Constitution AND the 12th Amendment - if 1/3rd of the States do not cast their votes in the Electoral College -- then the matter falls onto the House of Representatives to choose the President. In other words -- if we pressure Congressmen, State Party Officials, and groups such as Tea Party Patriots, Heritage Foundation, etc., to call on RED States to NOT have their Electors cast their vote -- then the House of Reps CAN ...
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Is there any particular reason you keep posting this over and over and over? After seeing it for what has to be the 300th time it gets rather annoying.
Try posting something different. It’s fun! It’s exciting! It’s NOT ANNOYING.
Thank you.
He lost because of massive voter fraud by the Obama machine.
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;--the person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President.
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Do you honestly think that the states that Obama won want come forward and vote putting him over the 270 Electoral College Votes necessary to win? Hell all of Romney's 206 Electoral Votes could abstain and it wouldn't keep Obama from getting his 270.
Don't believe everything those people in SW Louisiana write about.
This would start a race war. No further comment. LOL
Now that doesn't mean Democrats didn't commit vote fraud ~ but they dropped 6.5 million votes from their total in 2008!
I would hope the Republicans had their agents out there as well, and if so, a little more work on their part Obama might well have lost.
Here's a clue for you, next time send us a Republican to vote for.
Not that it is relevant this year, but if an election goes to the House it is settled not by vote of the Reps but by vote of state delegations.
I recently looked into this, and the GOP have a majority in about 2/3 of the delegations.
Not fair to say that.. You try and go against a media that is an operative of the regime and constantly disparaging you while hyping their boss and covering-up his failures.
Concerning 'FAIRNESS' ~ I am always fair ~ dude lost because he's a loser!
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[... This would start a race war ...]
Too late... Sharpton, Farakhan and Obama handled that one already.
You have to believe this?
Bohner is busy surrendering to Obama on taxes and immigration.
How about someone with some integrity in DC (hmmmm,is there anyone) says “Hey, Barry Soetoro Hussein Barack Obama had a parent who was not a US Citizen. Do we all know what that means? He is not eligible to run for president let alone serve as one. So you’re out Barry! Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.”
No that would be to honest and easy.
Instead we’ll get 4 more years of hell.
Agree. Massive individual fraud and even more by vote machine tampering of numbers.
So let’s say a third of the states actually do this, then it’s up to the GOP controlled House, right?
Does anyone really believe those spineless people born of unwed mothers would even consider electing anyone other than obama?
I believe the next in line after President and VP is the Speaker Of The House, so let’s assume they elect Boehner. Another Bush RINO that has already declared obamacare law of the land. This poor excuse of a representative of freedom would be worse than Romney.
Clause 3: Electors
The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse [sic] by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse [sic] the President. But in chusing [sic] the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse [sic] from them by Ballot the Vice President.
(Note: This procedure was changed by the Twelfth Amendment in 1804.)
In modern practice, each state chooses its electors in popular elections. Once chosen, the electors meet in their respective states to cast ballots for the President and Vice President. Originally, each elector cast two votes for President; at least one of the individuals voted for had to be from a state different from the elector’s. The individual with the majority of votes became President, and the runner-up became Vice President. In case of a tie, the House of Representatives could choose one of the tied candidates; if no person received a majority, then the House could again choose one of the five with the greatest number of votes. When the House voted, each state delegation cast one vote, and the vote of a majority of states was necessary to choose a President. If second-place candidates were tied, then the Senate broke the tie. A quorum of two-thirds applied in both Houses: at least one member from each of two-thirds of the states in the House of Representatives, and at least two-thirds of the Senators in the Senate. This procedure was followed in 1801 after the electoral vote produced a tie, and nearly resulted in a deadlock in the House.
The Twelfth Amendment introduced a number of important changes to the procedure. Now, Electors do not cast two votes for President; rather, they cast one vote for President and another for Vice President. In case no Presidential candidate receives a majority, the House chooses from the top three (not five, as with Vice Presidential candidates). The Amendment also requires the Senate to choose the Vice President from those with the two highest figures if no Vice Presidential candidate receives a majority of electoral votes (rather than only if there’s a tie for second for President). It also stipulates that to be the Vice President, a person must be qualified to be the President.
Don’t count on it.
With crybaby Boehner as the Speaker and too many weak-spined pantywaists afraid of being called “RAYYYYYYYYCIST!!!!” it’ll never happen.
If we had Men in the House - that is, people with spines and Patriot hearts, yes. As it stands though...I’d sooner bet on Gilligan and the Professor finally figuring out how to patch a hole in a boat and getting off the island.
No, if there is an electoral college tie, then the House of Representatives votes, in which case a 2/3’s quorum is needed. Since there is unlikely to be a tie in the electoral college vote in December, this doesn’t apply. If elected Electoral College voters don’t show up to vote, that is a violation of Article II, Section 1, Clause 3 and the Courts could order them to show up to vote.
So as attractive as the thought is to be able to avoid another 4 years of Obama, this reading of Article II, Section I, Clauses 2 & 3 is thoroughly flawed. The authors analysis is plain wrong.
The 12th amendment does supersede the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 3 but the point is still the same... the 2/3 quorum only applies to the electing of the President if there were an electoral tie. This purpose is to make sure Congress is duly represented before the vote can take place if this were to occur, again, since there is unlikely to be an electoral tie when those votes are cast in December, this tactic does not apply at all. Even if there were a tie though, the 2/3 quorum, again, is to make Congress wait until enough people are present to vote, not a tool that could be used to avoid a vote. The electors could simply be ordered by the courts to complete their Constitutionally mandated duty to cast their vote, as specified in II, 1, 2.
Exactly!
4 years ago they all knew soetoro is not elig and they could have stopped him from running for the presidency but they didn’t. When soetoro was ‘elected’ illegally, they could have stopped him by objecting during the electoral vote count certification, but they didn’t.
States were silent on this issue as well back in 2008.
Now they all (including the conservative ‘leaders’ and tea party leaders) let him run again, deluding themselves that they will win election over usurper obozo and gang’s rampant voter fraud
Whom can we blame?
If they didn’t do it 2 elections ago there is not a chance in hell they will do anything now, state officials or congress.
We probably have to be dragged to rock bottom with them, then maybe they will be mad enough, wake up and throw them all out!
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