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Wounded Warrior is what? Let me know what you find!
1 posted on 11/17/2012 7:47:06 PM PST by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

*disappointing


2 posted on 11/17/2012 7:52:20 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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"Let me start off by saying that we have seen through this process that the language on our website and our response to Mr. Gresham wasn’t clear and we are working on clarifying our approach. There is now much inaccurate information about WWP being anti-gun rights, an issue as an apolitical organization we do not take a stance on. We understand and appreciate that many of our Alumni are gun owners and we facilitate multiple hunting and outdoor opportunities for our Wounded Warriors throughout the year. In the past, we made our logo available to appear on wide variety of products, including guns. As an organization, we owe it to our donors and constituents to maximize the return on investment of our dollars and brand. We are always looking at our business practices and whether we should continue with them in the future. In the case of cobranding, we've decided that we're not going to offer our logo to appear on weapons anymore - whether they're guns, knives, bows, swords, or any other type of weapon. There are still a few of the guns around for sale that had licensed our logo years ago, but there aren't any new ones being made. This is purely a business decision based on a review of a return on investment, especially when compared with other types of cobranding ventures. Regarding the question of donations and events, we do permit fundraisers that are shooting- and gun-related, such as gun raffles, shooting competitions, etc., and we're incredibly appreciative of those who are willing to give their time to host or participate in an event. Likewise, we gratefully accept donations from companies and individuals connected with the gun industry. As indicated above, we know that hunting and shooting sporting events can be very therapeutic for many of the Wounded Warriors we serve, and we're happy to work with the community to make these types of events available to our Alumni. Hunting and shooting sport enthusiasts are an incredibly supportive and generous community, and we've been honored by how often folks have opened their land and homes, and volunteered their time to make these types of events possible for our Alumni. We certainly regret the appearance of a lack of appreciation for the support the community has given us based on a confusingly communicated business decision. I hope the above provides some clarity. We welcome the opportunity to have a warrior on Mr. Gresham’s show to discuss how hunting or events of the like have supported their recovery. We responded too quickly to his request and should have delved a bit deeper. Thanks so much and please feel free to call me with any questions. AYLA HAY communications evp "

Email from WWP posted on http://losttarget.blogspot.com/2012/11/wounded-warrior-project-anti-gun_15.html

I cannot vouch for its authenticity.

3 posted on 11/17/2012 7:55:46 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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That sure sounds counter-intuitive for a veterans’ organization. Well live and learn. There are many other veterans’ organizations that don’t believe in living in rubber rooms.


5 posted on 11/17/2012 8:05:44 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: MtnClimber

Wounded Warrior Project is a tax-exempt 501(C)(3) nonprofit organization.
Would Tom Gresham like to see them LOSE this status?
This is sour grapes and it ill behooves Gun Talk to make such a ridiculous accusation against Wounded Warriors. For shame!


6 posted on 11/17/2012 8:07:53 PM PST by MestaMachine (TREASON!!!!)
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Wounded Warrior has done nothing but good things as far as I know. As long as they aren’t actively anti-gun, I have no problem with their stance. Being neutral is fine with me.

They try to help wounded warriors, and that’s plenty good enough for me.


7 posted on 11/17/2012 8:11:08 PM PST by Sporke (USS Iowa BB-61)
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From here:

Wounded Warrior Project Email Exchange

by Gun Talk on Tuesday, November 13, 2012 at 10:56am

After Sunday's show, we've gotten many emails about Tom's remarks after WWP declined an interview request on Gun Talk Radio because it's a firearms-related show. We've also seen the forums that are suggesting many things that are not true. So, I'm going to lay it all out right here. We thought it would be great to book the WWP on the Veteran's Day show to promote the organization, so I contacted them. I was flabbergasted when their PR contact, Leslie, sent me an email saying they could not participate because our show dealt with firearms. Knowing that WWP has a booth at SHOT show and various gun shows across the US, takes wounded warriors on hunts and range days, raffles guns and accessories as fundraisers, etc., their policy didn't make much sense. I forwarded the email on to Tom to get his take. -Sarah

The following is the complete email exchange:

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Hello, Leslie: Sarah forwarded me your email after I asked her to invite the Wounded Warriors Project to join me on "Tom Gresham's Gun Talk" radio show.

I'm stunned at your email saying that the WWP doesn't participate in an interview or activity related to firearms. Inasmuch as there are 90 million gun owners and most of them support wounded veterans, I think they would be shocked to hear that they are, by way of their hobbies, somehow not worthy of helping with the Wounded Warriors Project.

Does your policy apply also to police agencies and the military, since they are "related to firearms?"

I'm hoping that we have misunderstood your email. Can you confirm that it is, in fact, an official policy of the Wounded Warriors Project to not do interviews with or participate in any activity related to firearms?

Thank you. Tom Gresham

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Good afternoon --

While we appreciate your interest in Wounded Warrior Project® (WWP) you are correct that we decline the media opportunity.

Please note the following notice that appears on our website which also applies to WWP public awareness policy and inquiries from media outlets: Additional Opportunities - Wounded Warrior Project

WWP does not co-brand, create cause marketing campaigns or receive a percentage or a portion of proceeds from companies in which the product or message is sexual, political or religious in nature, or from alcohol or firearms companies.

Thank you for your inquiry.

LESLIE A. COLEMAN public relations director

O: 904.405.1433 M: 904.654.8138 F: 904.296.7347

Wounded Warrior Project 4899 Belfort Road, Suite 300 Jacksonville, Florida 32256

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Thanks for confirming that, Leslie. It was a simple opportunity to promote the WWP on a national program in an effort to send donations your way. I'll pass along the info that you don't want or need the help of America's gun owners.

Best regards, Tom Gresham

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Good morning -- This policy is not a judgment on those who own and use firearms – clearly every member of our armed forces has been trained in the use of firearms and then called on to use them in the course of their service to this country.

Our position regarding firearms and alcohol [interesting conflation - emphasis added - piytar] is in response to the struggles that many injured service members face with substance abuse and suicide and the roles those items often play in those issues.

Thank you. LESLIE A. COLEMAN public relations director

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Hello, Leslie:

Thank you for that explanation.

I do think -- and I'm being as kind as possible -- that it's the nuttiest thing I've heard in years. Suicides are not linked to firearms. Japan has a much higher rate of suicide than does the U.S., and they have essentially no firearms. Suicide is a serious issue irrespective of the methodology used.

This explanation doesn't pass even the most simple "does this make sense" test.

Your policy does, in fact, brand firearms and the companies which make them as undesirables, and by association, you are saying that those who own and use firearms for recreation, hunting, self protection, and other safe and legal uses are to be avoided.

It's certainly your option to ostracize the firearms industry, the 90 million gun owners in America, and the media which support firearms safety training.

At this point, I feel an obligation to make sure the millions who listen to my radio show and watch my two national television series know about your policy.

I cannot fully express how much I feel you are doing a disservice to our wounded veterans, and how disappointed I am to discover this bias at the Wounded Warriors Project.

Sincerely, Tom Gresham

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Piytar here again: Disgusting. People (e.g., LESLIE A. COLEMAN?) need FIRED.

22 posted on 11/18/2012 1:31:29 AM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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Just a few observations: I wonder if they have had trouble from leftists because people like Rush Limbaugh support them? I distrust people who talk about vets with PTSD and suicide - leftists do that all the time. Leftists have decreed EVERYTHING is political, and everything is because of them.


24 posted on 11/18/2012 2:28:52 AM PST by PghBaldy (Pete Hoekstra RE: Petraeus "There's more here than meets the eye.")
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I have given a lot of money to WWP over the last decade, and encouraged others to do the same. I send them a donation every year in December.

I am not yet ready to pull the plug on them, and here’s why.

This could simply be a dumb ass liberal in a PR slot (What! A liberal in a Public Relations/Media slot?”) who just exceeded their authority and gave bad information, then doubled down on it.

If it turns out they ARE anti-gun (and I am still not convinced they are) then I have plenty of other organizations to give money to. I will sit and watch this for a while.


26 posted on 11/18/2012 5:32:46 AM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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They have screwed up big, big time. At first, I thought this was just some hoplophobic PR witch who was causing the trouble. Nope. I've been a week and they have doubled down. If it was a mistake, this PR witch would have been fired. Still there, AFAIK.

WWP will never get another dollar from me. I will support HAVA and Marine-Law Enforcement group and others instead.

28 posted on 11/18/2012 5:43:56 AM PST by backwoods-engineer ("Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the gov officials committing it." -- K. Hoffmann)
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Sounds like they are being co-opted by the left.


29 posted on 11/18/2012 5:50:12 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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Why did the name “Jim Zumbo” pop into my head?


31 posted on 11/18/2012 11:28:39 AM PST by Peet (Everything has an end -- only the sausage has two.)
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Sounds to me like Mr. Gresham started a pissing contest he desperately wants to win simply for being denied an interview.

With the airwaves and the internet as his bully pulpit he likely will but it's the wounded warriors themselves who are going to suffer for it.

His actions are right out of the liberal playbook - create a false crisis where none previously existed and publicize private emails to fuel the anger he is trying to generate.

The fact that WWP funds hunting trips for our wounded soldiers tells me everything I need to know about their organization and the fact that some hack is trying to drag them into the political arena in order to bolster his ratings is disgusting....

35 posted on 11/18/2012 1:22:06 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: MtnClimber
Sounds to me like Mr. Gresham started a pissing contest he desperately wants to win simply for being denied an interview.

With the airwaves and the internet as his bully pulpit he likely will but it's the wounded warriors themselves who are going to suffer for it.

His actions are right out of the liberal playbook - create a false crisis where none previously existed and publicize private emails to fuel the anger he is trying to generate.

The fact that WWP funds hunting trips for our wounded soldiers tells me everything I need to know about their organization and the fact that some hack is trying to drag them into the political arena in order to bolster his ratings is disgusting....

36 posted on 11/18/2012 1:28:44 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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..chapters host pheasant hunt for veterans and wounded warriors... The "Wounded Warriors/Veterans Pheasant Hunt," co-hosted by the Los Angeles and San Diego chapters of Safari Club International, was held as a way to show appreciation of veterans and their families for their service to our country. latimesblogs.latimes.com/outposts/2010/02/safari-club-wounded-wa... More results

GON.com - Spots Available at Wounded Warrior Pheasant Hunt in Henry... Guest-shooter spots on the hunt are available for $350, which includes a Friday-evening steak dinner, a clay-bird shoot and a meet-and-greet with the soldiers. On Saturday, guests will take part in a continental pheasant shoot alongside the wounded warriors. gon.com/article.php?id=2865&cid=84

Wounded Warriors Take To The Pheasant Fields | Wounded Warriors... (Ret) John McDaniel, Jim Reisdorf, Gunnery Sgt. (USMC) Shawn Horsley, and Tane Kehlenbeck pause during their pheasant hunt. Each had been severely wounded in either Iraq or Afghanistan, and each was awarded the Purple Heart medal for his sacrifice. wwiaf.org/article-view.php?id=14

Hunting for recreation: Fort Bragg wounded warriors enjoy day | Article... Wounded warriors and active-duty servicemembers from Fort Bragg participate in a pheasant hunt, Saturday, on the Allen Brothers Hunting Preserve in Bladenboro, N.C. The hunt was organized by Patriot Hunts, an organization dedicated to providing recreational activities for Soldiers. army.mil/article/49270/hunting-for-recreation-fo...

Wounded Warrior Upland Hunting for Fall 2010 - Pheasant Hunting Directory... In my professional capacity, Wounded Warrior Liaison, I am always looking for ways to get the wounded back into activities they enjoyed before being wounded, hunting is one of those activities. gamebirdhunts.blogspot.com. www.pheasant.com. gamebirdhunts.com/Community/Forums/tabid/66/aft/562/Defau...

Whitetail Hunts for Wounded Warriors Pheasant Hunt. Bow Hunt - October 22-25, 2012 MANDATORY PROFICIENCY TEST - Monday, August 13, 2012. This is an opportunity for New Jersey Wounded Warriors to hunt New Jersey Whitetails with proper equipment and support in a wonderful hunting camp experience. njoutdooralliance.org/outdoor/hunt/ability.html

Wounded Warriors hunt at Clover Hollow | Times News Online Four Mile Outfitters and the Keystone Wounded Warriors Project have teamed with Clover Hollow Hunting Preserve, Lime Kiln Road, Slatington, to provide U.S. Marine Sgt. Jonathan Tompkins, a Berks County native, the opportunity to hunt pheasants, quail and chukars, Saturday, Jan. 28. tnonline.com/2012/jan/14/wounded-warriors-hunt-clove...

Prairie Wind Hunting Club We offer excellent Trophy Deer hunting on multiple hunting leases as well as Pheasant, Quail, and Chucker hunting on some of the best CRP grass Controlled Shooting Areas in Reno County. This beauty was taken by one of the Wounded Warriors during Archery Season using a cross-bow. prairiewindhunting.com

Photos of wounded warriors enjoying the outdoors: Hunts for Healing See photos of this event. Hunts For Healing hosted six wounded warriors. Tackling the brush, terrain, snow and very cold weather, the Rangers all harvested their deer by day two and it was on to pheasant hunting Friday and a dinner to meet with the members of the Pennsylvania Fox and Coyote... huntsforhealing.org/photos.php

Wounded Warriors Need Your Help We offer them an opportunity to go hunting for deer or wild turkey or pheasant, or skiing, fishing or golfing. We do not pay credit card bills, car payments, or direct payments to wounded warriors except in the most unusual circumstances. pawoundedwarriors.com

Wounded Warriors at WPH Wounded Warriors at Whispering Pines - by Len Lisenbee. Each was soft-spoken and humble as they spoke of their hunting activities and how exciting this hunt was. Tony said he enjoyed this pheasant hunting experience immensely. whisperingpineshideaway.com/wounded-warriors-at-wph.html

American Kennel Club - AKC Sporting Breeds Hunt With Wounded Warriors Members of the Wounded Warrior Battalion from Fort Campbell, KY enjoyed two beautiful days of quail hunting at Cedar Grove Plantation near Clarksville, VA. Mr. James Kinnear, owner of Cedar Grove, readily accepted the opportunity to host the Wounded Warriors. akc.org/events/hunting_tests/pointing_breeds/wo...

Wounded Warriors honored with special hunt : News : ConnectTriStates.com This pheasant hunt for the four local veterans was put on by the local chapter of Quail Forever. President Ryan Viehmeyer says members of the organization wanted to give these wounded warriors a chance to get back into the forests and fields. connecttristates.com/news/story.aspx?id=698402

37 posted on 11/18/2012 1:40:39 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (USA!)
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