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MSNBC host tells Israeli amb. Hamas rockets 'rarely do damage'"response...is disproportional"
KFYI Radio ^ | November 19, 2012 | Sharona Schwartz

Posted on 11/19/2012 10:23:05 AM PST by Ooh-Ah

The host then suggested that because the number of rocket attacks on Israel has dramatically increased since 2009, Israel’s policy has been a "failure"

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() Beyond its military operation targeting the Hamas terrorist infrastructure in Gaza, Israel is invested in an intense media campaign to make sure its side of the story is being heard overseas. But that’s not always easy to do.

In an interview with Israel’s top envoy to the United States on Saturday, MSNBC provided yet another example of how much work Israeli officials face in their effort to pass through the filter of the mainstream media and present their side of the story.

MSNBC’s Mara Schiavocampo began her interview of Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren straightforwardly enough, asking “What would be the trigger for a ground operation? What’s the red line here?”

Oren answered, “You have the equivalent of what would be about 170 million Americans under bomb shelters. If Hamas continues to escalate we will take the necessary and legitimate measures to defend our citizens.”

Schiavocampo’s second question might be considered more controversial, positing the argument that long-range rockets carrying warheads weighing between 20 and 90 kilograms — 46 to 198 pounds — aren’t actually dangerous to human life. She asked:

“Living under the threat of rocket attack is certainly a psychological trauma. But what would you say to those who argue that the rockets are essentially very ineffective, they rarely do damage and that the response from Israelis is disproportional to the threat they’re under.”

Oren answered she might want to pose that question to the three Israelis killed by a rocket in Kiryat Malachi on Thursday (see TheBlaze’s story here and Glenn Beck’s segment looking at media bias and profiling the victims here). Oren suggested Schiavocampo envisage what would happen if Hamas were bombing America. He said:

“Imagine if one rocket had fallen in the United States and not now since the year 2009, our last operation, we’ve had something in the vicinity of 8,000 rockets fall on the State of Israel. That’s more than twice all of the German rockets that fell on London during World War II. And you saw how the British and Americans reacted to that.”

Schiavocampo then posited that because the number of rocket attacks on Israel has dramatically increased since 2009, Israel’s policy has been a “failure.” By way of comparison, she did not attribute the increase in attacks to other possibilities including: Hamas feeling more emboldened since its ideological ally, the Muslim Brotherhood, took control of next-door Egypt or that its ties have only grown stronger with Iran, which provides its long-range Fajr-5 missiles. She asked Oren:

“You mentioned the amount of rocket attacks that have been seen in Israel. In 2009 that number was about 200 and this year it’s been about 700 despite the fact that we’ve been down this road again that Israel has responded with military force in the past. So does this show that Israel ‘s policy towards Gaza has been a failure?”

Oren said that after 12,000 rocket attacks in the past 12 years on Israeli civilians, “We have no option and nor would any other country in the world have an option but to defend our citizens by all necessary and legitimate means.”

Watch the MSNBC interview with Michael Oren here:

http://politics.kfyi.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=104707&article=10583924

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gaza; hamas; ignorantmedia; israel; leftwingnewswhore; msnbc; schiavocampo
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To: Ooh-Ah

So 13,000 Hamas missiles launched by Muslim terrorists and at an accelerating rate in this decade is chump change because the victim targets are Israeli civilians? Jewish lives are cheap to MSNBC staff.


41 posted on 11/19/2012 11:24:48 AM PST by Best and Brightest
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To: Best and Brightest

Obamedia

Tv. For the 47 percent


42 posted on 11/19/2012 11:31:26 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: silverleaf
To the liberal US MEdia 7 months pregnant Jewish mother killed at the breakfast table in front of her 2 and 4 yr old children was “minor damage”?

Or just a bump in the road as Dear Leader would say.

43 posted on 11/19/2012 11:34:45 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Ooh-Ah

we need a site or a party which calls these idiots out once and for all.
Name names, show their biased, run ADs and let the country know how corrupt this thing we call the media are.


44 posted on 11/19/2012 11:50:38 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Ooh-Ah

There are about 1,200,000,000 Muslims in the World.

There are about 12,000,000 Jews in the World.

For every Jew killed, to be “FAIR”, the Jews have to kill 100 Muslims.

Disproportional? I think the Israelis are obligated to kill every Gazan for “Proportionality” to have been achieved.

:-)


45 posted on 11/19/2012 12:01:35 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (0BAMA CHOSE to watch a MUSLIM SNUFF FILM rather than a HEROIC AMERICAN RESCUE FILM)
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To: raybbr

She should be on BET


46 posted on 11/19/2012 12:03:05 PM PST by sanjuanbob
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To: Ooh-Ah

I had to re-read that 2x. I *almost* spit-out my lunch.

Soooooo, if someone’s wildly shooting at you, with a “mere” .22lr round and misses 5-of-6x, but only flesh-wounds you, there’s no sound reason to return fire and kill the POS, before s/he reloads the revolver’s cylinder? Her empty head is a target-rich environment.

Schiavocampo = DUMBASS LIB-DEM MORON!


47 posted on 11/19/2012 12:04:21 PM PST by carriage_hill (America - a great idea while it lasted.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Geez, I wonder how we would react if Mexico started to fire rockets at us?

(of course, under Obama who knows)


48 posted on 11/19/2012 12:06:12 PM PST by unique1
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To: Ooh-Ah

hamas and the muslim brotherhood are the terrorist organizations of Iran and MSLSD is their propaganda outlet...along with the BBC and CNN and ABC and CBS. Israel is trying to get their message out through all possible means, but if I were them I would just stick to Fox News and social media. The IDF videos are very powerful and any sane person can see how far Israel goes to limit civilian deaths, even when those same “civilians” look the other way when hamas fires rockets at Israel.


49 posted on 11/19/2012 12:06:33 PM PST by major1971
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To: ScottinVA

I have to say that I don’t like questions that begin, “What do you say to those who say/think....” My response would be: “Gather them up and I will address their concerns face to face,” or “Just who are those who say/think this? Are you one of them?”


50 posted on 11/19/2012 12:12:23 PM PST by NCLaw441
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To: Ooh-Ah

I would love to see the Mossad unleashed on the Liberal , Israel hating , American Left


51 posted on 11/19/2012 12:13:22 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: Ooh-Ah
Yes. Israel's policy has been a failure.
Hamas and the Arabs of Gaza and West Bank have proven they will never negotiate in good faith and have only genocidal intentions against Jews.
The ONLY policy that will bring peace is the expulsion of the Arabs from the West Bank and Gaza Strip, the annexation of these territories by Israel and their settling by Israelis.
52 posted on 11/19/2012 12:13:41 PM PST by Little Ray (I have VOTED AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Reporter; “General Kelly isn’t this like trying to kill a fly with a sledgehammer?”

General Kelly:” In my opinion that’s a delightful way to kill a fly.”

The Ambassador should call the talking head a complete fool and walk out of the building.


53 posted on 11/19/2012 12:35:33 PM PST by 4yearlurker (No matter who you elect,the government eventually gets in.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Using that tortuous reasoning, an ineffective response by Israel would be appropriate.


54 posted on 11/19/2012 12:40:32 PM PST by luvbach1 (The late, great United States)
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To: Ooh-Ah

How many hundred bullets would Mara let an insane neighbor fire randomly at her house, “since they rarely are fatal?”


55 posted on 11/19/2012 12:54:07 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: M Kehoe
Ms. Schiavocampo is stuck on stupid,...

At this late point in the game I'll tell you who is stuck on stupid,

ANY conservativeof ANY stripe from ANYWHERE on this planet that agrees to go on MSNBC for an interview.

Stay away from these vile creatures!

56 posted on 11/19/2012 12:56:00 PM PST by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NCLaw441
I have to say that I don’t like questions that begin, “What do you say to those who say/think....” My response would be: “Gather them up and I will address their concerns face to face,” or “Just who are those who say/think this? Are you one of them?”

Yes, and I would add, "Can you name their names and quote them? Or are you just inventing them to suit your own narrative?"

I have zero respect for these so-called "reporters" from American Pravda. Throw their lies and biases straight back in their lying faces.

57 posted on 11/19/2012 12:58:04 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: raybbr

“Maria Schiavocampo - fulfills some need to the network or is another Affirmative Action Hero.”

I’d say she is an Affirmative Action Retard.


58 posted on 11/19/2012 1:06:02 PM PST by Dogbert41 (What now?)
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To: albionin
According to the code of ethics I adhere to, The initiator of force, nor anyone else, gets to decide what level of force that the defender gets to use. We didn’t win world war II by a proportional response to the Japanese and the Germans. We blew the S&(t out of them until they no longer had any interest in fighting us and that is exactly what the Israelis will have to do.

Thank you. How stupid can these people be?

You're walking down the sidewalk with your wife and young son. Some thug-assed punk walks up and punches your wife and slaps your son to the ground. According to this stupidbitch you're supposed to stop and think of a 'proportional response'?!?

Nope. The thug just made a lethal error in judgement. Exact same code of ethics apply here.

59 posted on 11/19/2012 1:07:36 PM PST by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Hmmm,,, I’m gonna go out on a limb here and guess that twenty-something twit Mara Schiavocampo has never experienced the pleasure of being under a 122mm rocket attack.


60 posted on 11/19/2012 1:07:36 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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