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The CIA Probably Had The Authority To Hold Prisoners At The Secret Benghazi Annex
Business Insider ^ | November 19, 2012 | Michael Kelley |

Posted on 11/19/2012 1:08:20 PM PST by maggief

In October Paula Broadwell told an audience that the CIA in Benghazi "had taken a couple of Libyan militia members prisoner" at its secret annex.

The CIA flatly denied the claim, saying that the agency "has not had detention authority since January 2009, when Executive Order 13491 was issued. Any suggestion that the Agency is still in the detention business is uninformed and baseless."

Marc Thiessen of the American Enterprise Institute points out that the denial is factually incorrect because while Obama ordered the closure of all CIA detention facilities (i.e. “Black Sites”), the order states that it "does not refer to facilities used only to hold people on a short-term, transitory basis."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: benghazi; benghaziannex; cia; davidpetraeus; libya; paulabroadwell; petreaus; waronterror

1 posted on 11/19/2012 1:08:24 PM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

Just what we thought, so why the secrecy?


2 posted on 11/19/2012 1:10:18 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: maggief

As usual with Dems, it depends on what the meaning of “is” is.


3 posted on 11/19/2012 1:10:58 PM PST by livius
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To: everyone

We sure need some here.
FReepathon Day 50!

4 posted on 11/19/2012 1:11:08 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: maggief

Annex pics of “prisoners”/detainees?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/89009379@N04/8147136686/in/photostream/


5 posted on 11/19/2012 1:14:22 PM PST by maggief
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To: onyx

It’s because one of Obama’s big boasts has been no more renditions, foreign prison facilities, etc. and no more sending prisoners to Guantanamo. This means that not only has it been going on (and I don’t see any reason why it shouldn’t be, but remember that this was one of Bambi’ s big pledges to the terrorists there and to the lefties here), but it proves the point that these people should have been at Guantanamo, where their buddies couldn’t have come and broken them out, as they did.


6 posted on 11/19/2012 1:16:24 PM PST by livius
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To: onyx
Just what we thought, so why the secrecy?

But how did SHE know, and why would she reveal it?

Assuming that this is true.

Her mention of it was the first time I had ever heard about it, did I miss earlier reports of this?

7 posted on 11/19/2012 1:18:07 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: onyx; TigersEye; Marine_Uncle; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SunkenCiv; blam; Carry_Okie; GeronL; ...
Every thing is secret unless the political campaign sees it as useful to further the positive image of the ONE DEAR LEADER.

I suppose the campaign staff will morph into the Legacy committee....

And suppression of unfriendly facts will continue....with assistance from the friendly establishment media.

8 posted on 11/19/2012 1:21:13 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Las Vegas Ron

http://www.israpundit.com/archives/50224

October 26, 2012

According to a source on the ground at the time of the attack, the team inside the CIA annex had captured three Libyan attackers and was forced to hand them over to the Libyans. U.S. officials do not know what happened to those three attackers and whether they were released by the Libyan forces.


9 posted on 11/19/2012 1:26:45 PM PST by maggief
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To: maggief
Thanks maggief.

I was aware of the captive(s) at the time of the attack, but I assumed that they were taken in as they were the attackers.

When I heard PB's speech, I got the impression they were prisoners that were being held well before the attack took place and were the reason for the attack its self.

Gack!! I'm confused!

10 posted on 11/19/2012 1:37:39 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks, Ernest!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2961245/posts

Broadwell told a Denver audience in October: “Now I don’t know if a lot of you heard this, but the CIA annex [to the consulate] had taken a couple of Libyan militia members prisoner and they think that the attack on the consulate was an effort to try to get these prisoners back.”

I read that the attack may have been two-phased; the consulate for Stevens and later the annex for the prisoners.


11 posted on 11/19/2012 1:43:40 PM PST by maggief
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To: Las Vegas Ron
You missed it...It was days ago already and the speech was way back. She is/was a top intelligence agent.

Everyone is making like she needed Petraeus to get info.

12 posted on 11/19/2012 1:59:31 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: maggief; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks you two.

May the truth prevail!


13 posted on 11/19/2012 2:14:46 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Sacajaweau
The speech was on Oct. 26th, hardly way back and I am aware of it.

My understanding is that she currently holds no security clearance and hasn't for a long time.

This whole thing stinks to high heaven.

14 posted on 11/19/2012 2:17:29 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: maggief

Several things don’t make sense from the reports.

1) Obama wasn’t interested enough after the NCA meeting to issue CBA or inquire if anything else was needed, but he made an unscheduled call to Netanyahu about the time Stevens was being killed by smoke inhalation.

2) Only 4 people were killed of some 30 or more in the compounds. 2 apparently by smoke inhalation by accident from mob mayhem and explicitly the only 2 actively resisting with firepower, the 2 exSEALs, not by small arms, nor by grenades, but by mortar rounds, fired at nighttime, after displacing, in a crowded Annex under direct observation while able to displace to secondary positions.

3) All the others were able to leave not only the compound, but the city by not one, but 2 planes by 0830, while also being able to track down the Ambassador’s body when his whereabouts wasn’t fully known until dawn (about 0600).

4) Administration public announcements by multiple parties follow a 24 year old’s perspective of worldly affairs without any wherewithal, claiming the activity is all due to a anti-Muslim video, when there were no protests at 20:30 Benghazi time, and the Ambassador was fully exposed at the location of the attack about an hour preceding it.

Point 3 I can understand if performed by well disciplined organized unit, trained to respond to fluid situations and simply left unopposed. Reports seem consistent,...but not with 1 and 2.

Point 4 I can understand if this were a preplanned operation/ coordinated attack planned by and for a company to regimental sized operating force, but definitely not division or larger scale operation. It wasn’t national league intel.

Point 1 indicates either Obama and the NCA
a) didn’t trust their intel or
b) didn’t care about any of the staff or Ambassador
c) didn’t want an international terrorist event on the anniversary of 9/11
d) were worried the security of other operations had been compromised.
e) were searching for Israel to conduct a rescue and attack Muslims in the process.

Point 2 indicates the attackers had
a) liaison with friendlies or
b) vastly superior intelligence and information and
c) better high tech target acquisition on station than did the US or
d) the 2 ex-SEALs were KIA from friendly fire or directly targeted by friendlies.
e) also Pt 2 indicates the attackers were not violently predisposed to kill all Americans (because all but 4 made it out alive and quickly). Instead, during hours of darkness and fog of war, were able to explicitly kill the only 2 exSEALs not being controlled by Washington. (That’s very hard to do.)


15 posted on 11/19/2012 2:36:02 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: maggief
Maggie and I have been posting about this over looked reality since last week: "Why would you have a significant number of CIA guys at one site? The answer is....they ran an interrogation center. This is the great secret to this entire episode....the President doesn’t want to admit that they have such a center or what it does. It begs questions because they probably didn’t let the Senate Committee on Intelligence know about the center." Imagine if that reality with a real media had gotton out to the American people before the election. Obozo would have been treated worse than LBJ was during the Vietnam years by liberals, who voted for the man who kept Gitmo open, uses drones to kill his designated enemies and knew the CIA had a prison in Benghazi to interogate Islamofacists. He could have lost at least 10% of his voters, if they knew about the prison, he had sanctioned, approved and allowed to stay open. The reality of what happened in Libya in a followup on Broadwell's talk at CU on 10/26/2012: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/12/petraeus-mistress-may-have-revealed-classified-information-at-denver-speech/ The reality of what happened in Libya in a followup on Broadwell's talk at CU on 10/26/2012: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/12/petraeus-mistress-may-have-revealed-classified-information-at-denver-speech/

First this block buster tid bit out of the report below, which has flying under the radar:

"According to multiple intelligence sources who have served in Benghazi, there were more than just Libyan militia members who were held and interrogated by CIA contractors at the CIA annex in the days prior to the attack. Other prisoners from additional countries in Africa and the Middle East were brought to this location.

The Libya annex was the largest CIA station in North Africa, and two weeks prior to the attack, the CIA was preparing to shut it down. Most prisoners, according to British and American intelligence sources, had been moved two weeks earlier."

Now back to the Fox news story:

Petraeus mistress may have revealed classified information at Denver speech on real reason for Libya attack

By Jennifer Griffin, Adam Housley

Published November 12, 2012

FoxNews.com

Biographer Paula Broadwell could be facing questions about whether she revealed classified information about the Libya attack that she was privy to due to her relationship with then-CIA Director David Petraeus.

At an Oct. 26 speech at her alma mater, the University of Denver, on the same day that Fox News reported that the rescue team at the CIA annex had been denied help, Broadwell was asked about Petraeus’ handling of the Benghazi situation.

Her response was reported originally by Israel’s Arutz Sheva and Foreign Policy’s Blake Hounshell.

Broadwell quoted the Fox News report when she said: “The facts that came out today were that the ground forces there at the CIA annex, which is different from the consulate, were requesting reinforcements."

Broadwell went on to explain more sensitive details from the Benghazi attacks, particularly concerning what the real cause might have been.

“Now, I don't know if a lot of you heard this, but the CIA annex had actually, um, had taken a couple of Libyan militia members prisoner and they think that the attack on the consulate was an effort to try to get these prisoners back. So that's still being vetted.”

In the original Oct. 26 Fox News report, sources at the annex said that the CIA’s Global Response Staff had handed over three Libyan militia members to the Libyan authorities who came to rescue the 30 Americans in the early hours of Sept. 12.

A well-placed Washington source confirms to Fox News that there were Libyan militiamen being held at the CIA annex in Benghazi and that their presence was being looked at as a possible motive for the staged attack on the consulate and annex that night.

According to multiple intelligence sources who have served in Benghazi, there were more than just Libyan militia members who were held and interrogated by CIA contractors at the CIA annex in the days prior to the attack. Other prisoners from additional countries in Africa and the Middle East were brought to this location.

The Libya annex was the largest CIA station in North Africa, and two weeks prior to the attack, the CIA was preparing to shut it down. Most prisoners, according to British and American intelligence sources, had been moved two weeks earlier.

The CIA, though, categorically denied these allegations, saying: “The CIA has not had detention authority since January 2009, when Executive Order 13491 was issued. Any suggestion that the agency is still in the detention business is uninformed and baseless.”

Broadwell’s affair with Petraeus was likely known to Holly Petraeus, according to family friends. The FBI reportedly knew about it months beforehand and White House Counterterrorism adviser John Brennan reportedly was aware that there was a relationship as early as the summer of 2011.

The White House strongly denied that Brennan was aware so early.

“It is irresponsible and flat out wrong for Fox News to run an anonymous, unsubstantiated, and blatantly false accusation, as Mr. Brennan was first made aware of the issue last Wednesday," spokesman Tommy Vietor said.

Broadwell, whose affair with Petraeus reportedly ended earlier this year, continued to serve as an informal spokesman for the CIA director. She suggests in her Denver speech that Petraeus knew almost immediately that the attack was a terror attack -- possibly to free militia members.

16 posted on 11/19/2012 2:45:33 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Tagline space for rent to pay for some of my extra taxes the next 4 years!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Well, with all these lawyers at the White House, I have yet to hear an explanation from them saying what the motive was for this raid other than it was some movie. They’ve gone back on the movie story, but they still haven’t come out with a motive for these thugs to do this.


17 posted on 11/19/2012 4:18:54 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: maggief

So any leader of a foreign country has the authority to have their intelligence agencies imprison Americans within the US?


18 posted on 11/19/2012 4:35:05 PM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Ernest.


19 posted on 11/19/2012 4:56:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I believe Al Jazeera reported it this past summer.


20 posted on 11/19/2012 4:57:39 PM PST by gotribe
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
RE: "Every thing is secret unless the political campaign sees it as useful to further the positive image of the ONE DEAR LEADER."
That is why I am quickly losing any interest in the whole fiasco. It's all bull shit. No one is going to be held responsible, from any punishment view point.
21 posted on 11/19/2012 5:37:06 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Well,...it was more than just an interrogation site....what business would Stevens be up to there....meeting with a Turkish official.


22 posted on 11/19/2012 9:29:06 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Grampa Dave
Just in case you haven't seen this thread from october:

Fiasco... The John Batchelor Show ^ | October 27,2012 | John Batchelor

*******************************EXCERPT**************************************

Posted on Sat 27 Oct 2012 02:55:17 PM PDT by Hojczyk

My fresh information is how to explain the surprising scale of the errors at Benghazi. It is useful to stipulate that the building where Ambassador Stevens was attacked was not a consulate.

It was a State Department residence that was maintained to provide an explanation for the presence of the CIA station that was about a mile distance --

The CIA station "annex" was responsible for recruiting and training Libyan assets in Benghazi, many of whom were directed to the so-called "Libyan Brigade" that is serving in Syria under the supervision of Turkish Military Intelligence. (This is part of the operation aimed at removing the Assad regime and replacing it with Jihadist/Islamists sympathetic and beholden to the Sunni lords at Cairo-Ankara-Riyadh-Doha.)

The attackers were fully informed of these facts, as they are part of the Cyrenaica networks of Jihadists/Islamists that have dominated the province for decades. (The attackers are commanded by the tribes/authorities of the province.) Why was the US dealing with treacherous gunmen?

This is the infamous big picture of Libya and the Obama administration. I am told that, following the fall of Tripoli in the fall of 2011,

POTUS believes this gesture demonstrates to the Arab Spring's newly-minted Jihadist/Islamist warlords (Tunis, Tripoli, Cairo, Sanaa) as well as to the old warlords (Riyadh, Doha, Ankara) that the US policy is not opposed to Jihadism and Islamism (despite the drone strikes and the assassination of Bin Laden.) In addition to this gesture of apologetics,

POTUS has directed the US and its allied security apparatus to train and equip the gunmen of Benghazi in order to send them to Syria in order to demonstrate how the US supports the Jihadist/Islamist cause not only in Libya, not only in Syria, but also throughout the ummah.

23 posted on 11/19/2012 9:48:58 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks I have included this update on my summary of what the center really was, and why the Resident, SOS, SOD and CIA director and their Mediots lied to Americans re the realities.

“Why would you have a significant number of CIA agents/operatives/assets at one site? The answer is....they ran an training and an interrogation annex at that site. This is the great secret to this entire episode....the President doesn’t want to admit that they had such a center or what it did. It begs questions because they probably didn’t let the Senate Committee on Intelligence know about the center.

“It was a State Department residence that was maintained to provide an explanation for the presence of the CIA station that was about a mile distance —

The CIA station “annex” was responsible for recruiting and training Libyan assets in Benghazi, many of whom were directed to the so-called “Libyan Brigade” that is serving in Syria under the supervision of Turkish Military Intelligence. (This is part of the operation aimed at removing the Assad regime and replacing it with Jihadist/Islamists sympathetic and beholden to the Sunni lords at Cairo-Ankara-Riyadh-Doha.)

The attackers were fully informed of these facts, as they are part of the Cyrenaica networks of Jihadists/Islamists that have dominated the province for decades. (The attackers are commanded by the tribes/authorities of the province.) Why was the US dealing with treacherous gunmen? “*

*http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2961235/posts?page=16#16

Imagine if that reality with a real media had got out to the American people before the election. Obozo would have been treated worse than LBJ was during the Vietnam years by liberals, who voted for the man, who kept Gitmo open, uses drones to kill his designated enemies and knew the CIA had a prison in Benghazi to interogate Islamofacists prisoners and to train Islamo terrorists to fight in Syria.

He could have lost at least 10% of his voters, if they knew about the prison, he had sanctioned, approved and allowed to stay open.

The reality of what happened in Libya in a followup on Broadwell’s talk at CU on 10/26/2012: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/12/petraeus-mistress-may-have-revealed-classified-information-at-denver-speech/

First this block buster tid bit out of the report below, which has flying under the radar:

According to multiple intelligence sources who have served in Benghazi, there were more than just Libyan militia members who were held and interrogated by CIA contractors at the CIA annex in the days prior to the attack. Other prisoners from additional countries in Africa and the Middle East were brought to this location.

The Libya annex was the largest CIA station in North Africa, and two weeks prior to the attack, the CIA was preparing to shut it down. Most prisoners, according to British and American intelligence sources, had been moved two weeks earlier.”

Now back to the Fox news story:

Petraeus’s mistress may have revealed classified information at Denver speech on real reason for Libya attack

By Jennifer Griffin, Adam Housley

Published November 12, 2012

FoxNews.com

Biographer Paula Broadwell could be facing questions about whether she revealed classified information about the Libya attack that she was privy to due to her relationship with then-CIA Director David Petraeus.

At an Oct. 26 speech at her alma mater, the University of Denver, on the same day that Fox News reported that the rescue team at the CIA annex had been denied help, Broadwell was asked about Petraeus’ handling of the Benghazi situation.

Her response was reported originally by Israel’s Arutz Sheva and Foreign Policy’s Blake Hounshell.

Broadwell quoted the Fox News report when she said: “The facts that came out today were that the ground forces there at the CIA annex, which is different from the consulate, were requesting reinforcements.”

Broadwell went on to explain more sensitive details from the Benghazi attacks, particularly concerning what the real cause might have been.

“Now, I don’t know if a lot of you heard this, but the CIA annex had actually, um, had taken a couple of Libyan militia members prisoner and they think that the attack on the consulate was an effort to try to get these prisoners back. So that’s still being vetted.”

In the original Oct. 26 Fox News report, sources at the annex said that the CIA’s Global Response Staff had handed over three Libyan militia members to the Libyan authorities who came to rescue the 30 Americans in the early hours of Sept. 12.

A well-placed Washington source confirms to Fox News that there were Libyan militiamen being held at the CIA annex in Benghazi and that their presence was being looked at as a possible motive for the staged attack on the consulate and annex that night.

According to multiple intelligence sources who have served in Benghazi, there were more than just Libyan militia members who were held and interrogated by CIA contractors at the CIA annex in the days prior to the attack. Other prisoners from additional countries in Africa and the Middle East were brought to this location.

The Libya annex was the largest CIA station in North Africa, and two weeks prior to the attack, the CIA was preparing to shut it down. Most prisoners, according to British and American intelligence sources, had been moved two weeks earlier.

The CIA, though, categorically denied these allegations, saying: “The CIA has not had detention authority since January 2009, when Executive Order 13491 was issued. Any suggestion that the agency is still in the detention business is uninformed and baseless.”

Broadwell’s affair with Petraeus was likely known to Holly Petraeus, according to family friends. The FBI reportedly knew about it months beforehand and White House Counterterrorism adviser John Brennan reportedly was aware that there was a relationship as early as the summer of 2011. The White House strongly denied that Brennan was aware so early.

“It is irresponsible and flat out wrong for Fox News to run an anonymous, unsubstantiated, and blatantly false accusation, as Mr. Brennan was first made aware of the issue last Wednesday,” spokesman Tommy Vietor said.

Broadwell, whose affair with Petraeus reportedly ended earlier this year, continued to serve as an informal spokesman for the CIA director. She suggests in her Denver speech that Petraeus knew almost immediately that the attack was a terror attack — possibly to free militia members.

A few days later, Petraeus testified in a closed session to Congress that the attack was due in large part to an anti-Islam video and a spontaneous uprising, according to reports from the hearing.

Congressional leaders say privately they believe they were lied to by Petraeus when he testified shortly after the attack. Some of these members already considered charging Petraeus with perjury, but said they planned to withhold judgment until he testified this week. After resigning as CIA director, the CIA said Acting Director Mike Morrell would testify in his place.

All of this raises the question: What was the CIA really doing in Benghazi in addition to searching for Qaddafi’s stash of more than 22,000 shoulder-held missiles that could bring down commercial airplanes, and who in the White House knew exactly what the CIA was up to?


24 posted on 11/20/2012 6:20:32 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Tagline space for rent to pay for some of my extra taxes the next 4 years!)
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25 posted on 11/20/2012 6:23:40 AM PST by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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26 posted on 11/20/2012 6:25:58 AM PST by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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