Posted on 11/20/2012 11:36:54 AM PST by Nachum
The Obama administration issued new rules Tuesday that require insurance companies to cover people with preexisting conditions — one of the most popular provisions of President Obama’s healthcare law. The Health and Human Services Department also began to implement other popular, but expensive, parts of the Affordable Care Act. Regulations released Tuesday will prohibit insurers from charging women a higher premium than men, and will require plans in every state to cover certain services.
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
Here's a good, overall description of the Brit system - coming to a country near you....
The government's hold over medical practice in Britain is becoming ever firmer; it now dictates conditions of work and employment, the number of hours worked, the drugs and other treatments that may be prescribed and the way in which doctors must be trained. Doctors are less and less members of a profession; instead, they are production workers under strict bureaucratic control.
"The doctor explains that while people on SS are complaining of standards of health care, in government hospitals the standard of care is dropping due to increased workload of hospital staff and a growing numbers of patients.
"Now we have waiting lists," he says and compares Thailand to the UK's NHS (National Health Service). "We studied the EU community and their health care systems and wanted to bring that to Thailand," he says, though adds that in many western countries some "responsibility" must come from the patient.
Due to Thailand's UC system now being completely free there is an "over utilisation" of the health care system, he says. Because it's free, and drugs are free, doctors and nurses are "overburdened and overworked". "
The basic problem is there is no price control, there was not before, and now there is even less.
I agree. First and foremost it ceased being true insurance decades ago. What 'they' call insurance is actually a price fixed health maintenance plan that pools the monies of unknown and unanticipated catastrophic and emergency care with anticipated and known expenses.
The insurance companies with the assistance of big government have become a price fixing monopoly middleman not subject to free market forces that profit regardless cost.
Much like the secondary education system, the health system is a bloated pig subsidized and protected by big government.
The bubble will burst eventually...
Not even the same number of working folks. Fewer working folks as companies kill jobs and shed workers to deal with it.
Aren't you jag-offs proud that you re-elected ObaMao? Just wait until the producer class starts competing with you for free stuff.
Just wait until more and more of us start saying "to hell with it!" and decide that we will be wagon riders as well. Or make untaxed cash under the table. Or barter. Or move into the black market. Or even claim to be illegal aliens. I'm dark enough and know a foreign language well enough that I can almost pass.
“expensive, parts of the Affordable Care Act”
Huh?
When the boomers start retiring is when the beast will start hemorrhaging big time.
Rolling out the appealing stuff before the REAL SHTF?
This makes me sick. The unintended consequences are mammoth compared to the do-gooder intention.
If they cover you after you get sick, it isn’t insurance, is it?
But what’s cool about this, Nachum, is that now you guys can get c sections!
Yep. And free male abortions.
eh.
No. It is intended to destroy the insurance companies. Then they will come and introduce the single payer plan they wanted all along.
That would be the "Dearly Departed" section...
“I will bet that it will be government owned insurance companies - so the American people will buy the whole program as not REALLY socialism!”
Privately owned, government controlled corporations, factories, and services is a characteristic of Fascism.
“I will bet that it will be government owned insurance companies - so the American people will buy the whole program as not REALLY socialism!”
Privately owned, government controlled corporations, factories, and services is a characteristic of Fascism.
The same will happen in health insurance, everybody will pay an equal but substantially higher premium.
Nope. ObamaPhone Lady won’t pay a dime for full coverage.
It’s not meant to be understood, only manipulated..by design.
“”Costs will go up as fast as they possibly can, until the industry collapses.
The basic problem is there is no price control, there was not before, and now there is even less.”
I agree. First and foremost it ceased being true insurance decades ago. What ‘they’ call insurance is actually a price fixed health maintenance plan that pools the monies of unknown and unanticipated catastrophic and emergency care with anticipated and known expenses.
The insurance companies with the assistance of big government have become a price fixing monopoly middleman not subject to free market forces that profit regardless cost.
Much like the secondary education system, the health system is a bloated pig subsidized and protected by big government.
The bubble will burst eventually...”
Agreed, although this is true of public primary & secondary education as well, with one caveat.
Your not required to attend in every state, and the merits of 2ndary education vs the costs(Directly upon the student, nevermind the 2/3rds burned on everyone else) are becoming increasingly dubious. (Its hard to imagine how wastfull collage has become)
Likewise with copay some healthcare procedures vs alliterative have for a time(until abolished) acted as a bit of a break on price.
Insolently on the education front, we might be able to sell some States into abandoning all public education subsidues in favor of directly fiancing the individual student instead. (a kind of higher education valture).
Such a system would castrate the public university and force them to get rid of much of indoctrination programs in favor of student preferred education. (They would have to to compete with private & tech schools.)
State politicians could further point out that they aren’t cuting education spending, simply redirecting it to the students.
They won, we lost.
This is only the tip of the iceberg Comrades.
Since I have Leukemia, why am I paying $1,300 a month for Health Insurance again?
I should just wait for my overdue relapse and get Insurance coverage the day before I go in for Chemotherapy again.
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