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To: No Socialist
Since when does freedom of religion depend on us being a religious organization?? This is outrageous and unconstitutional. I refuse to fund abortions. FUBO.

Savita's family thanks you for your support.

64 posted on 11/20/2012 2:15:35 PM PST by ksen
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To: ksen

“Savita’s family thanks you for your support.”

Those that love abortion can pay for their own abortions. You can donate to abortion clinics like I donate to pregnancy centers that support life.

50 million abortions in the US. How many were for the mother’s life?

Moveon.org loves abortion, you can probably make some friends there.


76 posted on 11/20/2012 2:40:35 PM PST by No Socialist
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To: ksen
Savita's family thanks you for your support.

As usual, the non-liberal-agenda part of the article is way at the bottom.

Abortion is illegal in the Republic except where there is a real and substantial risk to the life, as distinct from the health, of the mother.

The doctors made a misdiagnosis of the woman's condition, as they sometimes do. They should be sued for malpractice as any doctor who makes a mistake that results in the patient's death should be.

Not to mention we don't let extremely rare cases define what our laws have to be for the entire country. If we did that, we'd have to legalize polygamy because of siamese twins who have two heads attached to one body. This woman's death is far outnumbered by the millions of unnecessary, unregulated killings of unborn babies performed in our country.

82 posted on 11/20/2012 2:55:29 PM PST by JediJones (Newt Gingrich warned us that the "King of Bain" was unelectable. Did you listen?)
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To: ksen; No Socialist
Ksen, your reference to Savita is not wellfounded on facts. There is nothing either in Irish law nor in Catholic morality which would have prevented these doctors in Galway treating this woman appropriately. Although abortion is not a cure for septicemia (!), nothing would have them from removing the body of a miscarried baby. I am astounded that they didn't do a simple blood test and put her on an antibiotic drip from Day One, which is how you're supposed to treat septicemia.

But then, all persons resident in Ireland are entitled to receive health care through the public health care system, which is managed by the Health Service Executive and funded by general taxation. It's, sadly, not at all surprising that they declined to treat her on her first visit. Such under-treatment is all to common with this kind of system. Savita was a victim of medical malpractice, not ethics.

104 posted on 11/20/2012 3:33:43 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.)
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To: ksen
Savita's death had nothing to do with abortion and everything to do with the fact that for some reason connected to their basic incompetence, her physicians did not administer the necessary antibiotics. Once she had developed septicemia, an abortion would not have saved her life unless she was also given antibiotics.

None of us are quite sure what your issue is. You want an abortion? It's the law of the land; you can have one any old time you want, right up until the day a child is due to be born. Have as many as you'd like. No one can stop you. If you want to run a company and pay for abortions, contraceptives, sterilizations, sex-change operations, abortifacient drugs, and anything else you'd like to pay for, you can do that, too. Nothing prevents you. But pay for it yourself. Don't ask me to pay for your sex life, your sexual choices, or your employees' sex lives. Kindly do not attempt to compel me and my coreligionists to violate our beliefs just to make things cheaper or more convenient for you or for your employees.

Here's a basic conservative principle: pay for your own stuff. Take responsibility for your own life. Don't force other people to pick up the tab for your decisions.

138 posted on 11/20/2012 4:32:25 PM PST by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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