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Tomb of the Unknown Soldier disrespect not tolerated
Examiner.com ^ | Nov 20, 2012 | Scott Paulson

Posted on 11/21/2012 7:03:42 AM PST by KeyLargo

Tomb of the Unknown Soldier disrespect not tolerated

November 20, 2012 By: Scott Paulson

Taking the expression “some people just don’t think!” to a new level, Lindsey Stone thought she was being funny when she posted a picture of herself giving the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at Arlington National Cemetery "the finger" - the middle finger - while appearing to shout at the national memorial in October. After posting the pic to Facebook, somehow thinking her friends would enjoy the photo, she most definitely found out otherwise. As of Monday, the backlash has been severe for Stone.

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After the tremendously negative reaction to the photo, she Facebook-messaged on October 20:

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: disrespect; soldier; tomb
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To: cpdiii
<"I wish one of the honor guard had bitch slapped her with the butt of the M1-Garand they carry. I know they wanted to."

"Today, sentinels carry the M14 rifle while wearing moistened gloves to protect the Tomb; the gloves allow better handling of the rifle. The M14 is operational. It is the latest in a long line of rifles used by the sentinels.

Today, the M14 is still used as a sniper rifle (M21) by many military units and is the standard ceremonial weapon of the 3rd U.S. Infantry Division (The Old Guard) and the weapon carried by the Tomb sentinels.

When it’s time for the guards to change, a relief commander says, “Pass on your orders.” The current sentinel commands, “Post and orders remain as directed.” The new sentinel then replies, “Orders acknowledged,” and this reverent ceremony begins again with the M14 rifle."

http://www.tactical-life.com/online/exclusives/sentinels-of-the-tomb/

"We Also Have Fewer Horses And Bayonets"

Barack Obama

51 posted on 11/21/2012 8:00:02 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

IMO, stupid kids from stupid public schools.


52 posted on 11/21/2012 8:03:50 AM PST by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: KeyLargo

I can also think of two ethnic groups I`ve seen

represented at a Veterans Day ceremony.

Hope these two spoiled disrepectful women get canned

from their job


53 posted on 11/21/2012 8:03:54 AM PST by Harold Shea (RVN `70 - `71)
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To: KeyLargo

Works for a “non-profit” that could afford to send this piece of shit to DC. What the hell... non-profit parasites going to DC is like muslims going to Mecca.


54 posted on 11/21/2012 8:08:57 AM PST by Repulican Donkey
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To: twister881

Your dad has my gratitude and you have my deepest sympathies, twister. God bless your parents. The next time I go I’ll make it a point to let you know so that I can visit them.
My dad died in 1999 and was laid to rest in the Columbarium after an inurnment ceremony. I’m very proud of him. I hope that this little snot gets fired...she’s tarnished her employer’s good name. >:-(
Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours. ((hugs)).


55 posted on 11/21/2012 8:10:25 AM PST by SoKatt ("Change" is not a strategy!)
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To: KeyLargo

How to un-do the 60’s crowd that rules today has to start with how “they” got that way. Jane Fonda clones are basically 52% of America today. The USA is everything it left Europe for, but with no place to go for revolt.

Churches died, and Education reflected that fact, so kiss off the next couple of generations even if we started repairs tomorrow, which I fear we won’t without secession.

Tag line below.


56 posted on 11/21/2012 8:10:50 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: faucetman
Freedom of speech applies to EVERYONE! Even jerks like this.

Most people, possessing common decency, restrain their own speech. A certain class, has no common decency and aren't worthy to be called citizens.

57 posted on 11/21/2012 8:12:56 AM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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To: cpdiii

Thanks for the correction.


58 posted on 11/21/2012 8:13:10 AM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: Repulican Donkey
Works for a “non-profit” that could afford to send this piece of shit to DC. What the hell... non-profit parasites going to DC is like muslims going to Mecca.

It is an assisted living facility for people with mental disabilities. They are just outside of DC and from the original photos it looks like they were taking the patients on tours of the free monuments. Don't knock the employer, they seem to be doing the right thing and are kicking her ass to the street for this.

59 posted on 11/21/2012 8:13:22 AM PST by mnehring
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To: faucetman

If you believe that, tell the truth about the homosexual lifestyle or a muslim.


60 posted on 11/21/2012 8:14:05 AM PST by sport
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To: KeyLargo

The new face of the left! She claims to be “defying authority,” yet I’d wager she voted as a leftard supporting Tyranny. She is demonstrating exactly why I regret sacrificing a decade of my life to protect the freedom of ALL citizens.


61 posted on 11/21/2012 8:20:29 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: KeyLargo

This is America -where this woman has the right to behave like an ungrateful, disrespectful, self-centered and uneducated person.

For the time being, she is also subject to the consequences of her behavior including the deserved public humiliation she is undergoing.

My punishment for her would be to go to ANY veteran’s hospital in the country and observe. For six months. She would learn what class, courage, respect and love ACTUALLY MEAN.


62 posted on 11/21/2012 8:23:32 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: KeyLargo

I don’t want to be the skunk at the picnic but I think this picture is a lot more innocent than it appears. First, given the place, it is a complete sacrilege, of course. But I think this yahoo chick was just reacting to the sign and trying to do the opposite of what it said. I think if it said keep off the grass she would be standing on the grass. I think that is all she was doing. She has given a written and (I think) heartfelt apology and her dad (whom she lives with) has backed her up. He is properly mortified. I don’t excuse this behavior at all. I have been to Arlington and it is a Church even in our secular world. I think when she fully realizes what she has done she too will be mortified. Sorry for rambling but I don’t think she meant it as a political statement at all. Doesn’t excuse it but it kind of explains it. I’d like to think our society has not hit this level of bottom yet.


63 posted on 11/21/2012 8:32:21 AM PST by emotionalcripple
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To: HamiltonJay

Does anyone out there knows who in the hell this skank works for? A call in campaign or email or snail mail campaign needs to be done to get her fired.


64 posted on 11/21/2012 8:32:27 AM PST by cgchief
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To: KeyLargo

Well, trying to find some saving grace in this disgraceful event......

at least no man has been stupid enough to put a ring on the finger of that disgusting sow.


65 posted on 11/21/2012 8:35:29 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: KeyLargo

Scum...


66 posted on 11/21/2012 8:36:36 AM PST by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: HamiltonJay

Who said she didn’t vote for him already?


67 posted on 11/21/2012 8:37:36 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Obama should change his campaign slogan to "Yes, we am!" Sounds as stupid as his administration is.)
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To: buffaloguy
Why are so many younger adults so childish?

No discipline...no common sense...you would be stunned at the number of adults in New England who act like they are five years old. They make your skin crawl...

68 posted on 11/21/2012 8:39:11 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: rarestia

I read in another article that she has been suspended from her job.


69 posted on 11/21/2012 8:39:23 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Obama should change his campaign slogan to "Yes, we am!" Sounds as stupid as his administration is.)
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To: KeyLargo

HEY LINDSEY!!!! YEAH YOU!!! CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?!!!

This kind of disrespect is NOT in any way like lighting up a smoke next to a NO SMOKING sign!!! Not at all!

And if that was what you call an apology, I sincerely hope you get fired!


70 posted on 11/21/2012 8:41:12 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: faucetman

“Freedom of speech applies to EVERYONE! Even jerks like this.”

No, it does not apply on company time.


71 posted on 11/21/2012 8:42:18 AM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: KeyLargo

When I think about how I or other veterans feel to have the deaths of those who gave their life for freedom feel to be disrespected I’m reminded about how Jesus must feel when atheists or others disrespect his death and sacrifice for all of us for freedom from the eternal consequences of sin.

I believe America’s days of being blessed by God are very short.


72 posted on 11/21/2012 8:42:24 AM PST by ScubieNuc (When there is no justice in the laws, justice is left to the outlaws.)
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To: driftless2
What kind of poisonous atmosphere creates nitwits like this?

DON'T LOOK AT ME!


73 posted on 11/21/2012 8:42:46 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Obama should change his campaign slogan to "Yes, we am!" Sounds as stupid as his administration is.)
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To: I cannot think of a name

And people question why more and more American men are seriously looking at international dating.


74 posted on 11/21/2012 8:44:06 AM PST by bushbuddy
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To: Wiser now
“It was just a joke”. The world’s oldest excuse when the perp finds out nobody else thinks she is funny, or cute, or smart.

My Dad used to tell me, "Son, it's not a joke unless everyone thinks it's funny."

75 posted on 11/21/2012 8:47:10 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ('Need' now means wanting someone else's money. 'Greed' means wanting to keep your own...)
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To: KeyLargo; jessduntno
Copied this from another thread...

This is a punishable offense; 32 CFR 553.22 - Visitors’ rules for the Arlington National Cemetery. (13) Engage in any disorderly conduct within the Cemetery grounds. For purposes of this section, a person shall be guilty of disorderly conduct if, with purpose to cause, or with knowledge that he is likely to cause, public inconvenience, annoyance or alarm...(iv) Utters to any person present abusive, insulting, profane, indecent or otherwise provocative language or gesture that by its very utterance tends to incite an immediate breach of the peace;

...so when will charges be pressed?

76 posted on 11/21/2012 8:48:36 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: chrisser
OBVIOUSLY we meant NO disrespect to people that serve or have served our country.

Full CYA mode. She's lucky she didn't get punched in the face, woman or not. A;though I think we can safely say she is no lady.

77 posted on 11/21/2012 8:50:02 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: faucetman
Freedom of speech applies to EVERYONE! Even jerks like this.

Freedom of speech is NOT without consequence. She thinks it was funny to post this picture - that was HER freedom of speech. The outrage, which SHE has fault with, is OUR freedom of speech.
78 posted on 11/21/2012 8:50:43 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: chrisser
You seem to mistake freedom of speech with freedom from consequences.

I had this same conversation when the Dicks-e Chicks made stupid statements about President Bush. My friend said that they had the right to say whatever they wanted.

And I agreed, they were not stopped from saying anything stupid. But, I also have the right to not spend my money on their CDs and concerts and most Americans didn't want to hear them on the radio - radio producers heard the complaints and removed them from rotation.

They were NEVER jailed for their statements, they just repeated the consequences of their opinions.
79 posted on 11/21/2012 8:52:31 AM PST by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: cgchief

See post 49


80 posted on 11/21/2012 8:54:45 AM PST by sport
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To: faucetman
Freedom of speech applies to EVERYONE! Even jerks like this.

It appears that she broke the law...see post #76.

81 posted on 11/21/2012 9:00:32 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: KeyLargo

Sounds like Beckel needs another twinkie milkshake.


82 posted on 11/21/2012 9:02:39 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Obama should change his campaign slogan to "Yes, we am!" Sounds as stupid as his administration is.)
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To: KeyLargo
HERE RESTS IN

HONORED GLORY

AN AMERICAN

SOLDIER

KNOWN BUT TO GOD

83 posted on 11/21/2012 9:03:24 AM PST by 101stAirborneVet
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To: faucetman; All
Freedom of speech applies to EVERYONE! Even jerks like this.

No one is restricting her freedom of speech. Here employer also has freedom of contract, and they can object and fire her without violating her freedom of speech.

84 posted on 11/21/2012 9:07:19 AM PST by marktwain
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To: KeyLargo

I thought an M14 was a carbine.


85 posted on 11/21/2012 9:09:04 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Obama should change his campaign slogan to "Yes, we am!" Sounds as stupid as his administration is.)
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To: KeyLargo

Been around women like this before. She’s unhappy. She lives with her Dad. She made bad decisions in her life and her life hasn’t turned out like she planned. I guarantee you, she thinks her job is way beneath her. She thinks her life would be better if only so much money wasn’t going to the military. She has no concept of how people in other lands view her and she is afraid to do much self analysis for fear she’ll discover that her problem is.......her.


86 posted on 11/21/2012 9:12:10 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I thought an M14 was a carbine.

You are thinking of the M1 carbine.

There is also the M1 Garand, a rifle.

The M14 is a rifle derived from the M1 Garand. My late friend, George (Tex) Ferguson, was presented with the first Garand. I have the article and picture somewhere to prove it.

87 posted on 11/21/2012 9:15:34 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Oops... I meant he was presented with the first M14, not the first Garand!


88 posted on 11/21/2012 9:17:12 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Michael.SF.

Remember, those are the people who won the Election.

I have banished Obama lovers from my life.

If I have to deal with them, be it Family or anyone else I run in to during the course of my day, I do the minimal required be it hello / goodbye / thanks for your business (to keep my job). That’s it.


89 posted on 11/21/2012 9:17:36 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (As the Chinese say, erections have consequences...)
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To: KeyLargo

it is THE TOMB OF THE UNKNOWNS not the tomb of the unknown soldier. but why would i think a journalist would care about the facts?


90 posted on 11/21/2012 9:22:11 AM PST by bravo whiskey
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"I thought an M14 was a carbine."

The M-14 is definitely not a carbine. Picture: 7.62mm M14 Rifle

The M-14 rifle is a 7.62 mm magazine-fed, gas operated shoulder weapon, designed primarily for semi-automatic fire. The M-14 originally had a M2 bipod for use as a squad automatic weapon. The rifle is considered by many an excellent design. Its drawbacks were that it was heavy for infantry soldiers and it was not as accurate when in full automatic fire at 750 rounds a minute.

There were several original manufacturers of the M14 rifle over the years. TRW, Winchester, Springfield Armory, and Harrington and Richardson produced thousands of these fine M-14 rifles.

The M14 rifle is easy to disassemble and clean. It breaks down into the barrel and receiver, firing mechanism, and the stock. The stock was made of either wood or synthetics.

A Brief History of the M14 and M1A

Following World War II, the US military sought to replace the M1 Garand, which was the GI's main battle rifle, with a rifle that could do it all: have the accuracy of the M1 Garand, the lighter carry of the M1 carbine, and the rapid fire of the M3 (the "Grease Gun") and the BAR (Browning Automatic Rifle).

Springfield Armory began the design of such a rifle in the 1950's, starting with the .30-06 cartridge used in the M1 Garand, and modifying it to make it lighter, but still as powerful. The result was the 7.62 NATO cartridge.

The military tested many guns, and settled on Springfield Armory's new cartridge and rifle, designating the rifle as the M14.

The first rifles were delivered to troops in 1959. By the time the Army and Marine Corps had completed their orders, Springfield Armory wound up producing nearly 1.4 million M14's.

Vietnam was the test of the M14, and results were mixed. The 7.62 NATO round was very good for penetrating brush. The M14 also excelled at long-distance shots. In the humid jungle, though, the wood stock proved to be a liability, as swelling from moisture affected accuracy.

The plan to have a battle rifle that was also fully automatic proved to be less than desirable, as the relatively powerful 7.62 cartridge had far too much recoil to be controllable under full-auto fire. Most M14's were subsequently modified for semi-automatic use only. (The wood stocks from the converted rifles have a cutout in them for the selector lever, just below the receiver on the right side, but the lever was removed).

By the mid-1960's the M16 had been fully developed, and proved to be more suitable for jungle warfare. The M14 was no longer the standard issue rifle, and was "demoted" to the status of Limited Standard rifle.

The M14 continued to see use by troops stationed in Europe, and was still prized by many soldiers in Vietnam who didn't think the M16's 5.56 cartridge had enough "oomph".

The M14 was converted by the Army into the M21 sniper rifle, a role the rifle filled until 1988.

While the M16 and then the M4 rifles became the mainstay for US forces, the M14 continues to this day to be used not only for training, but also as sniper and "designated marksman rifles", and has been used in both Afghanistan and Iraq.

Despite its relatively short career as a standard issue rifle, the M14 has been the longest-serving rifle in the US infantry.

With the M14 orders completed, Springfield Armory of Massachussetts, which had produced firearms for the military for decades, closed in 1968. LH Manufacturing in Texas adopted the Springfield Armory name in 1974.

The commercial Springfield Armory company turned to making a civilian, semi-automatic-only version of the M14, naming it the M1A. The earliest models of the M1A used surplus GI parts until Springfield Armory began producing the rifle using parts that were made entirely in house. You'll sometimes encounter the early models at gun shows, identifiable by the selector lever cut-out in the stock.

The Springfield Armory M1A is nearly identical to the M14 that the company made for the military, with the lack of full-auto capability being the most significant difference.

Over forty years later, the M14/M1A is still one of the most sought-after military style rifles, and continues to be one of the most accurate military rifles ever produced."

http://www.gunshopfinder.com/springfieldrifles.html

91 posted on 11/21/2012 9:22:59 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: emotionalcripple

She broke the Law and should be prosecuted to the full extent of the Law. Her lack of Respect for the Brave Men and Women who gave the ultimate sacrifice to what I now consider an ungrateful Nation, should be rewarded with a Fine and Imprisonment.

She is an adult Woman who has the sovereign Right to Vote in what used to be the freest Nation on Earth. She can apologize until the Obama’s come home, but it falls on deaf ears.

Her behavior in another time would have resulted in a beat down from a Patriotic Citizen witnessing such vulgarity.

Did she burn one of the Flags at a gravesite too? Excuses are like A Holes, everybody has one.


92 posted on 11/21/2012 9:28:49 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (As the Chinese say, erections have consequences...)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Now the she and Jane Fonda have something in common can some one make us a Lindsey Stone urinal target? Please!


93 posted on 11/21/2012 9:32:42 AM PST by Conserev1
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To: DBrow

That person was also put on leave.


94 posted on 11/21/2012 9:33:41 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: KeyLargo; All

This event is analogous to Pussy Riot, defiling the altar of a church in Russia. Many saw that as an over-the-top insult and the perps were jailed, and I think Putin had a few words to say. PR knew they were defiling a holy place, though.

I don’t think this kid had any idea how seriously America would take her little joke. Well, now she knows, and the lesson continues.


95 posted on 11/21/2012 9:40:12 AM PST by DBrow
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To: faucetman
"Freedom of speech applies to EVERYONE! Even jerks like this"

Why don't you tell your boss what an idiot he is and see what happens. Freedom of speech allows you to do that.

96 posted on 11/21/2012 9:43:22 AM PST by UnwashedPeasant
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To: SparkyBass

That’s the best thing about Freedom of Speech, we get to find out who the jerks are.


97 posted on 11/21/2012 9:44:44 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: faucetman
Freedom of speech applies to EVERYONE! Even jerks like this.

Freedom of speech DOES apply to her. The federal government is not going to do a thing against her over her speech.

Unfortunately for her, though, for the rest of her life every employer who googles her name as part of pre-employment evaluation will have this incident come up. That employer will also be aware that there are people out there on the net who will never forget, and will let the world know that she is now employed at XYZ corp, and to let her employer know what you think of their hiring decision.

Her life is screwed.

98 posted on 11/21/2012 9:49:47 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Just for the pure stupidity, I mean she could have just shown the pic privately to her friends that might have gotten a hoot over it.....but it showed an incredible lack of judgement to publish that pic on a public forum......I pretty much keep my politics here on FR, I play it pretty close to the vest when it comes to things like FB; sure I might “Like” a certain candidate, but that’s about the extent of it. And even doing that, none of my liberal contacts have really ever said anything about it. Not as if anyone’s mind is going to be changed by an FB post anyway.


99 posted on 11/21/2012 9:56:26 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

These “women” are complete, ungrateful a-holes. They should be fired and prosecuted. What pigs!


100 posted on 11/21/2012 9:57:05 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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