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Walmart Workers Protest Over Compensation At Oakland Store [Hostess Twinkie Them!]
CBS San Francisco ^ | November 21, 2012

Posted on 11/22/2012 8:08:31 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

About 20 people gathered in front of the Oakland Walmart store on Edgewater Drive Wednesday to demand better pay and work schedules.

Richmond Walmart store employee Anthony Bravo joined fellow demonstrators and said the company starts associates at minimum wage, but reported $15 billion in profits last year.

“We didn’t see nothing. I didn’t see none of that. It really makes me upset that they can make all of this money out of profits and we’re barely surviving,” Bravo said.

With the chant of “Walmart, Walmart you’re no good. Treat your workers like you should,” Bravo and the others marched through the stores with signs for about 10 minutes.

(Excerpt) Read more at sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com ...


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I saw video of these idiots. I hope they get fired.
1 posted on 11/22/2012 8:08:39 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper
prolly overpaid at that...
2 posted on 11/22/2012 8:11:04 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I keep asking what the caliber of the gun held to their heads when they applied for the jobs and then signed the employment agreement.

Must have been a doozie. Maybe a bazooka...


3 posted on 11/22/2012 8:11:42 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Here comes bama claus here comes bama claus left down bama claus lane!)
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To: Chode

“Overpaid” and “Walmart” are oxymorons.


4 posted on 11/22/2012 8:13:37 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I saw video of these idiots. I hope they get fired.

was that Jesse Jackson jr with the load hailer ?


5 posted on 11/22/2012 8:14:35 AM PST by molson209
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To: SoFloFreeper

The idiots see the $15billion profit and are totally clueless as to what that represents and what it took to achieve that. They were well compensated for their contribution. If they think they and their talents are worth more, I totally support them. They should move on and find a better way to put their talents to use. In the mean time they should get on their knees and thank God that Walmart has compensated them for relatively mindless efforts that would in no ways support them if those employees exerted those efforts independent of Walmart.


6 posted on 11/22/2012 8:14:58 AM PST by all the best (`~!)
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To: freedumb2003

“I keep asking what the caliber of the gun held to their heads when they applied for the jobs and then signed the employment agreement.”


Once upon a time, someone with limited skills and education could get a decent manufacturing job with good pay and bennies. Alas, most of those jobs are gone from the Fruited Plain (thanks to offshoring and “free trade” agreements) so all that’s left are low-paying service jobs with lousy benefits. That is the “bazooka” that forced these workers to take these jobs.


7 posted on 11/22/2012 8:16:39 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
We didn’t see nothing.

Remedial grammar may be the solution to your problem.

8 posted on 11/22/2012 8:17:09 AM PST by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Walmart Strike Spreads to Texas as Organizers Promise Massive Black Friday Protest

http://www.thenation.com/blog/171299/walmart-strike-spreads-texas-organizers-promise-massive-black-friday-protest

LOL~


9 posted on 11/22/2012 8:18:16 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Fire them, then have the police haul them away for trespassing.


10 posted on 11/22/2012 8:19:16 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: SoFloFreeper

Perhaps administering a basic grammar test for applicants would weed out some of the idiots. The strikers are so stupid they don’t even know they’re stupid.


11 posted on 11/22/2012 8:21:28 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: teflon9

Those manufacturing jobs are gone because of union greed.


12 posted on 11/22/2012 8:22:47 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: teflon9

>>Once upon a time, someone with limited skills and education could get a decent manufacturing job with good pay and bennies. Alas, most of those jobs are gone from the Fruited Plain (thanks to offshoring and “free trade” agreements) so all that’s left are low-paying service jobs with lousy benefits. That is the “bazooka” that forced these workers to take these jobs<<

Straw man.

You can only afford an apartment near an airport, so move in and then tell them to move the airport.

Those jobs have been gone for over a generation. Even when I was a kid we had moved to a service economy. You can no more hold back globalization that you can stop the ocean tide with your hand.

There is a solution for those with limited skills and education: GET skills and education. And don’t whine “it’s too hard!” My mom got an AA degree at night with 7 kids at home!

Again, here in the Fruited Plain, we have things called “contracts.” They are based on a mutual agreement. If you don’t like the terms, don’t sign the agreement. Don’t sign and then whine and blubber because you don’t like what you signed. And CERTAINLY don’t put other people out because you are such a crybaby.

These folks should be fired wholesale (or retail, either way).


13 posted on 11/22/2012 8:24:30 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Here comes bama claus here comes bama claus left down bama claus lane!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

If you want better pay and benefits then go find a job that offers them.


14 posted on 11/22/2012 8:24:35 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: fatnotlazy

No, they’re gone because manufacturers would rather set up shop someplace where they can pay some 10 year old $1/hour and dump sludge into the nearest body of water. If the comments on this thread represent conservatism’s attitude toward the American worker, then we can expect many more 2012s. Sad.


15 posted on 11/22/2012 8:25:08 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: freedumb2003

“You can no more hold back globalization that you can stop the ocean tide with your hand.”

That comment reeks of defeatism.


16 posted on 11/22/2012 8:26:34 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

If Walmart had to hire union knuckledraggers, nobody would shop there. I know for sure that I wouldn’t.


17 posted on 11/22/2012 8:27:59 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Amnesty - Obama's bailout of Mexico. Barry sticks it to America again!)
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To: teflon9

>>“You can no more hold back globalization that you can stop the ocean tide with your hand.”

That comment reeks of defeatism.<<

That isn’t defeatism. It is a fact. Now just now but for 30-40 years at least.

To suggest otherwise is just a sign you live in a fantasy world.

And here in Realsville, we live in the Real World.


18 posted on 11/22/2012 8:29:44 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Here comes bama claus here comes bama claus left down bama claus lane!)
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To: freedumb2003
And what had globalism brought us? Lowered living standards, lowered wages, and a bleak future for our children. Until we adopt an economic policy that returns manufacturing to the US, and a protectionist (yeah, I said it) policy that treats jobs as a precious natural resources to be cherished and protected, things will only get worst. If we conservatives don't do this, I'm afraid a left-wing workers' revolution will do it for us.
19 posted on 11/22/2012 8:33:11 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: fatnotlazy

For most manufactured goods in the USA, labor accounts for less then 10% of the retail price. Off shoring production only saves a few pennies on the dollar. A small tariff of say 5% would raise revenue an offset that. Thomas Jefferson would agree.


20 posted on 11/22/2012 8:33:11 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: teflon9

The myopia of the Free Traitor is terminal. It is a religion and Rush Limbaugh is their High Priest.


21 posted on 11/22/2012 8:34:33 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: teflon9
Come now...There is no such thing as corporate greed...CEO's making millions while the slobs making the wheels turn watched their wages go stagnate for the past 10 plus years, as their benefits were reduced to worthlessness or just eliminated...All this while the cost of everything skyrocketed.

The employers had no choice to move to Communist China to escape these unreasonable high wages.

All this while big gov flooded the country with tens of millions of low wage illegals...

It's a win win...Just look at the economy!

22 posted on 11/22/2012 8:35:28 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SoFloFreeper

PROBLEM: “We didn’t see nothing. I didn’t see none of that. It really makes me upset that they can make all of this money out of profits and we’re barely surviving,” Bravo said.

SOLUTION: Gather all of your friends together, pool your money and start your own Y’all Mart.....

Problem solved.


23 posted on 11/22/2012 8:35:28 AM PST by Donkey Odious ( Adapt, improvise, and overcome - now a motto for us all.)
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To: dragnet2

LOL. Good one!


24 posted on 11/22/2012 8:36:37 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: teflon9

Jobs are gone because manufacturers prefer to set up shop in foreign countries well away from:

* Massive corporate taxation
* Limitless legal vulnerability
* Crushing environmental regulation
* Pro-Union arbitrary Government
* Ludicrously high minimum wages
* And now: Obamacare

These are the reasons why industry chooses to locate away from the USA. But you choose to blame free trade - as if American manufacturers shouldn’t be allowed to enjoy the same freedom of association that you want for yourself.

Protectionism would be the final nail in America’s coffin. The last vestiges of American industry would be turned into feather-bedded welfare cases, and freeborn Americans would be forced to buy their stuff from the Government store.

Protectionism would also increase Government power. The Dems would gleefully collect all of that lovely tariff money and spend it on union pension bailouts or some damn thing.

America has tied its own hands behind its back with a ludicrous knot of EPA regulations, crushing taxation and arbitrary Government (just ask Gibsons guitars).

America needs to untie those knots - not wrap itself up in more of them in a fit of misplaced faux-patriotic anger.


25 posted on 11/22/2012 8:40:55 AM PST by agere_contra ("An unjust law ceases to be a law: it becomes an act of violence". Thomas Aquinas)
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To: teflon9

And off shoring didn’t have anything to do with the myriad of government agencies making business too expensive if not downright impossible in some locales, right?


26 posted on 11/22/2012 8:41:27 AM PST by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: teflon9

>>And what had globalism brought us? Lowered living standards, lowered wages, and a bleak future for our children. Until we adopt an economic policy that returns manufacturing to the US, and a protectionist (yeah, I said it) policy that treats jobs as a precious natural resources to be cherished and protected, things will only get worst. If we conservatives don’t do this, I’m afraid a left-wing workers’ revolution will do it for us.<<

Can I get you a hanky?

Not gonna happen and protectionism in this day and age is economic suicide. The USA would never recover.

Yours is far from a Conservative stance — it is a liberal Union stance.

Conservatives live in the Real World, first and foremost.


27 posted on 11/22/2012 8:42:10 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Here comes bama claus here comes bama claus left down bama claus lane!)
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To: agere_contra

When the Framers conceived the concept of “freedom of association”, moving good American jobs to some Fourth World sh#thole is not what they had in mind.


28 posted on 11/22/2012 8:44:09 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: Michael Barnes
I agree govt regulations are bad and expensive. That is no reason or excuse to build a factory in a communist country.

That is aiding and abetting the enemy. It is also creating democrats, the old Reagan Democrats are no more.

29 posted on 11/22/2012 8:44:46 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: dragnet2

>>Come now...There is no such thing as corporate greed<<

I am sorry, you must be on the wrong board, based on the underlying idea of how Capitalism works from that statement.

KOS and DU — 4 doors to the left.


30 posted on 11/22/2012 8:46:03 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Here comes bama claus here comes bama claus left down bama claus lane!)
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To: freedumb2003

“Conservatives live in the Real World, first and foremost.”

The “real world” of “creative destruction”, “free trade” and objectivism? That’s as much of a fantasy as communism.


31 posted on 11/22/2012 8:46:47 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: teflon9

I assume you support the ideas of “minimum wage” and “living wage” as well (lol)


32 posted on 11/22/2012 8:47:50 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Here comes bama claus here comes bama claus left down bama claus lane!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Why don’t all retailers just pay all their employees at least $100,000 a year, give them expense accounts and free medical care for their entire extended families?

It must be because all employers are greedy republicans who don’t like poor people.

I bet there is racism involved as well.

/s


33 posted on 11/22/2012 8:49:06 AM PST by Iron Munro (Michelle and Barack: Robbing From The Hood and Boy Blunder)
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To: central_va
That is no reason or excuse to build a factory in a communist country.

The Communist country is offering a better business climate than the United States!! Hell, in Hong Kong, I can have a business up and running legally in twenty four hours. Try that in the United States (Jon Stossel literally did a documentary on this).
Look, I don't like it any better than you but our government is hostile towards business and our government is now backed by unions and the "takers" as this last election has shown. Give it enough time, we'll start building here again as we will be a communist country soon ourselves at the rate we are going.

34 posted on 11/22/2012 8:49:06 AM PST by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: teflon9

>>The “real world” of “creative destruction”, “free trade” and objectivism? That’s as much of a fantasy as communism.<<

The only way to stop global trade is to put hte UN i control of all trade — your paradise.

Learn how economics and more importantly capitalism work.


35 posted on 11/22/2012 8:49:27 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Here comes bama claus here comes bama claus left down bama claus lane!)
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To: Michael Barnes; teflon9
And off shoring didn’t have anything to do with the myriad of government agencies making business too expensive if not downright impossible in some locales

Then the fat corps bribed and bankrolled the politico's campaigns with millions to keep those borders open. Feed that low wage golden goose!

Now most of the employers got millions of illegal employees who see 5 minute breaks as company benefits! And they work with a smile for 8 bucks an hour!

A win win!

36 posted on 11/22/2012 8:49:35 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: teflon9

They’re not ‘good American jobs’. They’re jobs which can no longer be done profitably by Americans because of (and here I have to repeat myself):

* Massive corporate taxation
* Limitless legal vulnerability
* Crushing environmental regulation
* Pro-Union arbitrary Government
* Ludicrously high minimum wages
* Obamacare

I should probably add:

* a workforce that (in WalMart’s case) seems to think that it’s entitled to a share of corporate profits over and above what it contracted for.
* a workforce that apparently believes that other Americans owe them a living.


37 posted on 11/22/2012 8:50:01 AM PST by agere_contra ("An unjust law ceases to be a law: it becomes an act of violence". Thomas Aquinas)
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To: freedumb2003

“I assume you support the ideas of “minimum wage” and “living wage” as well (lol)”


The US economy grew like a weed on steroids in the 1950s and 1960s when we had both of those things. So your point is?


38 posted on 11/22/2012 8:50:08 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: agere_contra

See post 36.


39 posted on 11/22/2012 8:51:15 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: agere_contra
Those poor business and corps had to go to Communist China to survive!!

Yuk yuk...

40 posted on 11/22/2012 8:53:56 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: teflon9

It’s more like the bazooka was pointed by the union at those factory jobs, demanding they be paid more than they were worth—until the factories shut down and went out of business.

Walmart pays at a level reflective of the employee contributions and the competitive labor market. Those with the ability to upgrade their skills ought to do so—if only because we’re letting in so many unskilled immigrants looking for work every year.


41 posted on 11/22/2012 8:54:09 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Donkey Odious

PROBLEM: “We didn’t see nothing. I didn’t see none of that. It really makes me upset that they can make all of this money out of profits and we’re barely surviving,” Bravo said.

SOLUTION: Gather all of your friends together, pool your money and start your own Y’all Mart.....

Problem solved.-—

Great solution. Maybe then they will understand all the costs that go into a business before a profit is declared, and that there are people/organizations called investors who demand and deserve a return on their capital.....

It’s not all about “ where’s yo dolla “ to quote their esteemed leader....


42 posted on 11/22/2012 8:54:09 AM PST by patriotspride
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To: freedumb2003

I’m with you on this one. This is very low skill labor. If they want better jobs, it’s up to them to make an effort to improve their skills. Of course I’m actually mistaken. In Obama’s world, it’s up to US to take care of them regardless of their skills and/or effort.


43 posted on 11/22/2012 8:55:03 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Need a new verb. On Twitter you tweet someone

If you want to do the same thing to them as Hostess did you should Twinkie them or

Twink them :-)


44 posted on 11/22/2012 8:55:06 AM PST by Kenny (<p)
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To: teflon9

The US economy grew like a weed on steroids in the 1950s and 1960s DESPITE those things.

Remember: everybody else’s industrial base had been bombed to scrap and/or they were in debt up to their neck.

And - more importantly - you guys still had a free country which was the envy of the world, and a population which didn’t look for handouts.

Now, not so much.


45 posted on 11/22/2012 8:55:18 AM PST by agere_contra ("An unjust law ceases to be a law: it becomes an act of violence". Thomas Aquinas)
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To: teflon9

>>The US economy grew like a weed on steroids in the 1950s and 1960s when we had both of those things. So your point is<<

#1) The living wage is very recent and certainly was not part of the 1950’s or 1960’s — it is a dumb and antibusiness idea

#2) They make no sense except perhaps as small governors (there are a handful of laws that are reasonable — we passed reasonable quite some time ago).

#3) This isn’t the 1950’s. Get a grip on Reality

You really are quite the little socialist aren’t you?


46 posted on 11/22/2012 8:56:20 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Here comes bama claus here comes bama claus left down bama claus lane!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I like a FReeper’s comment yesterday in a thread dealing with this situation.

They suggested a job fair be held at the same time the protest was being held.

I might add that the application desk be positioned across the parking lot from the protesters...see which side collects the largest group of people.


47 posted on 11/22/2012 8:56:29 AM PST by moovova (Happy Thanksgiving to all. Say a prayer for your country when you bow your head today.)
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To: 9YearLurker

“It’s more like the bazooka was pointed by the union at those factory jobs, demanding they be paid more than they were worth—until the factories shut down and went out of business.”

Riiight. Because big corporations are weak bitches who have no leverage against those mean, nasty unions. Now what kind of cheese would you like with that whine? Like I said, they moved so they could pay some kid chicken feed, dump their sludge wherever they felt like it, and the American worker be damned.


48 posted on 11/22/2012 8:57:59 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: CitizenUSA

>>In Obama’s world, it’s up to US to take care of them regardless of their skills and/or effort.<<

Apparently there are FReepers here who also like obama’s world.

Disappointing but not surprising. There are ignorant people everywhere (51% showed themselves recently).


49 posted on 11/22/2012 8:58:14 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Here comes bama claus here comes bama claus left down bama claus lane!)
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To: teflon9

Start your own company whiner. Let’s see how long you last.


50 posted on 11/22/2012 8:58:55 AM PST by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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