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Why arenít Asians Republicans?
AEI Ideas ^ | November 26, 2012 | Charles Murray

Posted on 11/26/2012 9:51:06 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota

Last week, I pointed out that there is no such thing as a natural social-conservative skew among Latino Americans. But that leaves open a rejoinder, expressed by several readers: The GOP doesn’t need to get all of the Latino vote, just its fair share. That’s true, and I should have made my point clearer. In the wake of the election, some social conservatives have tried a new version of the old Silent Majority argument, contending that Republicans can continue to make their candidates pass litmus tests on abortion and gay marriage and still win national elections if only it taps the natural social conservatism of Latinos. Exposing that illusion was the point of the numbers I presented.

This time I will explicitly offer a broader argument and then give the numbers. My thesis is that the GOP is in trouble across the electoral board because it has become identified in the public mind with social conservatism. Large numbers of Independents and Democrats who are naturally attracted to arguments of fiscal discipline, less government interference in daily life, greater personal responsibility, and free enterprise refuse to vote for Republicans because they are so put off by the positions and rhetoric of social conservatives, whom they take to represent the spirit of the “real” GOP.

I use Asian-Americans as an example of how powerfully this antipathy can alienate a naturally conservative voting bloc. Let it be clear: The causal link with social conservatism is asserted here, not proved. But the GOP had better take the hypothesis seriously.

Let’s start with data from the Current Population Survey from 2003 on some key socioeconomic indicators for adults ages 30–49. (The CPS first started identifying Asians separately from other ethnic groups in 2003).

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; asianamericans; asians; trends
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

A couple of the idiot commenters at the link alluded to the cause. Many Asians view the Republican party as the White Party. There is a strong animus towards Whitey, though not as bad as among blacks and hispanics.


81 posted on 11/26/2012 1:46:27 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Marko413
It's simpler than you imagine. Although the original article was written about a press release issued by an organization belonging to the NAACP, which itself is an arm of the Democrat party, the cold hard facts are Japanese Americans remember all too well that the Democrats sent them to concentration camps in WWII.

Well, maybe not all remember it because the Japanese Americans in Hawaii are all Democrats and they didn't get sent to camps!

Or, maybe there's a link ~ maybe some JAs got the idea that being a Democrat would keep you out of camp, so they got with the picture, yet others thought, hey, even the Democrats aren't going to send you to a camp for not being white.

Little did they know that the Democrats like their colored folk in camps, or on plantations, to the greatest extent possible.

So, the other Asians know about that, or they say to themselves "those JAs deserved to go to camps"!

Not putting it past the other Asians to chose to be Democrats just to spite the JA's, but that would be so stupid of them ~ the Democrats will, eventually, send all of them to camps, and if there are no Republicans around in that future, then they won't come out!

82 posted on 11/26/2012 1:56:19 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Marko413
It's simpler than you imagine. Although the original article was written about a press release issued by an organization belonging to the NAACP, which itself is an arm of the Democrat party, the cold hard facts are Japanese Americans remember all too well that the Democrats sent them to concentration camps in WWII.

Well, maybe not all remember it because the Japanese Americans in Hawaii are all Democrats and they didn't get sent to camps!

Or, maybe there's a link ~ maybe some JAs got the idea that being a Democrat would keep you out of camp, so they got with the picture, yet others thought, hey, even the Democrats aren't going to send you to a camp for not being white.

Little did they know that the Democrats like their colored folk in camps, or on plantations, to the greatest extent possible.

So, the other Asians know about that, or they say to themselves "those JAs deserved to go to camps"!

Not putting it past the other Asians to chose to be Democrats just to spite the JA's, but that would be so stupid of them ~ the Democrats will, eventually, send all of them to camps, and if there are no Republicans around in that future, then they won't come out!

83 posted on 11/26/2012 1:56:55 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Wallace T.
Quite a bit of record updating still needs to be made but thanks to archaeologists we now know that New Yorkers participated on the American side in as great a number as they did anywhere else in the colonies.

Much of the confusion was due to the fact that so many New York militia and regimental paperwork was never assembled into one place for proper analysis until modern times.

So, my American ancestors who were Dutch, Swedish, Oneida and just strays from the woods ~ who participated in the New York militia (mostly the Tryon County militia) really did so, and on the American side ~

Whenever you come up with something that says New Yorkers didn't participate in the Revolution you really need to give the source so I can make them correct it ~ or, at least, burn their books!

84 posted on 11/26/2012 2:02:38 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: OldArmy52

> But the Asians, like the Hispanics, go for the freebies.

Which group doesn’t like free stuff?


85 posted on 11/26/2012 2:17:18 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

If 50% of Asians voted for George H.W. Bush in 1992 and 20% for Romeny in 2012 — nothing in this analysis explains any of that. Furthermore, the GOP has elevated two Asian-Americans to promoinent posts — the governors of Louisiana and South Carolina — both in the heartland of social conservatism. Explain that, Charlie Murray, old boy.

I wonder if Asians were not taken in by the endless propaganda against Romney as a rich white man. Or did the Democrats develop special marketing to Asians that has not come out in the coverage of the elections?

I think conservatives and Republicans within the Asian community need to help forward the analysis here and explain this anomaly. Do Asians understand the message they are sending America in their voting patterns this year — that they will stand against the Constitution and in favor of the welfare state? I’m sure that was not the message intended. But, that is the message received.


86 posted on 11/26/2012 2:17:40 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: LucianOfSamasota

What aren’t Asians Lepubricans?


87 posted on 11/26/2012 2:28:15 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Sheapdog
I wondered about the racial angle. Pretty much every Asian I know isn't too fond of black-Americans. Not sure why.

I think the biggest factor is social issues. Specifically the (irrational) fear of "Bible-thumpers". Even though these societies are fairly pro-marriage and anti-gay rights.

Asians do seem to favor abortion by a wide margin.

88 posted on 11/26/2012 2:41:10 PM PST by boop ("I need another Cutty Sark"-LBJ)
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To: reagandemocrat
I asked George Takei (Mr. Sulu of Star Trek fame) the very same thing. His first autobiography "To the Stars" deals with the awful treatment he and his family received as internees. My question was: "Obviously it pained you greatly, why do you support the party (FDR, democrats) that did this to your family?"

His answer: "Political parties change over time. The republicans used to be for individual freedom. Now all they do is try to impose their morality on everyone."

He didn't really answer my specific question, but it did reveal the mindset of Japanese-Americans in 2012.

89 posted on 11/26/2012 2:53:20 PM PST by boop ("I need another Cutty Sark"-LBJ)
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To: boop

What’s happening is that EVERY minority gorup in the nation is falling in-line with the democratic party because the RATs have painted the GOP as the party of white people....it’s that simple. The dems have used race to ruin the republican brand, and it worked.


90 posted on 11/26/2012 2:54:46 PM PST by LongWayHome
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To: Wallace T.

I suppose it’s too much to ask that we move beyond that.


91 posted on 11/26/2012 2:55:38 PM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: LongWayHome
The dems have used race to ruin the republican brand, and it worked.

Exactly.

The Leftist strategy is to incite class and race divisions. They are all about driving wedges between Americans.

92 posted on 11/26/2012 3:02:12 PM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: cynwoody
The American conservative movement has made it abundantly clear that it sees America as a "white people country", and views Asians - like blacks and Hispanics - as guests (at best) or interlopers (at worst).

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How do we counteract that perception?

It's not a perception - it's reality. The GOP has become a "white Christian party" that white Christians don't even support all that strongly.

94 posted on 11/26/2012 3:06:31 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: WashingtonSource

This whole deal is based on a propaganda story concocted by the NAACP ~


95 posted on 11/26/2012 4:05:19 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: boop
No, George doesn't represent JAs. He represents flaming homosexuals.

He thinks Republicans are going to make him start wearing a penis shield when he goes out in public.

He's a nutcase pervert!

96 posted on 11/26/2012 4:07:25 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: LongWayHome
7% of the black vote went for some other guy this time ~ compared to the 100% that went for Obama in 2008 ~ whoops! No, even then Obama didn't get all the black vote, but fur shur, this time he dropped 4%.

Somebody escaped the reservation over there and they'll be out with their chihuahuas to bite them!

97 posted on 11/26/2012 4:09:35 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Asians and Latinos (white Cubans excepted) are not Republicans because “Get Whitey” is not (yet) part of the GOP platform.


98 posted on 11/26/2012 4:10:04 PM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
If Asians are "the new Jews" wouldn't they be expected to vote in the same way as the old Jews?

Asians who live in Republican states may be more favorable to Republicans, but as of now, most Asians still live in Democrat states, and vote like other blue staters.

Plus, this is what's been going on for centuries. Some group comes to form the core of a party. How you feel about that group comes to define the political system. And if you're not a part of the group you tend to vote for the other party.

A lot of Asians think of Republicans as the party of White Evangelicals and because they're not that, they vote for the other party. Same way it was with the Irish and the (original) Jews.

99 posted on 11/26/2012 4:17:46 PM PST by x
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

“We are talking about Chinese predomitantly.”

Precisely, if any one people on earth are used to big, centralized, all-caring, all-knowing government, it’s the Han.


100 posted on 11/27/2012 5:55:40 AM PST by mkboyce
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