Skip to comments.For 2016, Bush vs. Clinton
Posted on 11/27/2012 9:16:01 AM PST by Arthurio
(CNN) -- For all of our post-2012 election talk about the changing culture, the changing demographics and, perhaps, a changing party, preliminary thoughts out of D.C. about the 2016 election have us headed toward not much change at all: Clinton vs Bush...again.
I am as intrigued by the prospects of these two juggernauts, Jeb and Hillary, locking ideological horns as I am repulsed by the thought of half of my life being dominated by two family names. One, Clinton, has risen from the ashes after the White House. The other name, Bush, is so toxic that the past two Republican nominees avoided saying it in public, opting instead to skip their combined 12 years in office and head straight back to Reagan.
Face it, Hillary has baggage but Jeb has Bush, and that, more so than his record as governor of Florida or ideas for the future, will determine, at least at the beginning, how he is received. That explains why more than a few conservatives were not thrilled to hear that he was thinking of running.
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Not just “no”, but “HELL no”.
I feel as if I am stuck in a perpetual cycle of Dejavu.
Nothing like waking up everyday, just to learn it’s still groundhog day.
Wake me up when it’s 2020.
Oh good! Let’s double down on loosing candidates. Ford, Dole, Bush (1) McCain, and Romney. Gosh what this tells me that we need to get a rally good guy that is truly a known liberal so that no one can tell the difference between the the Democan and the Republocrat.. By God if they can be liberal then we really can be liberal.
When the hell are we going to learn. No matter what we do or say we will do, the press and the rest of the democratic party will still hate us and bash us and blame us and accuse us.
A nation of 300 million people and this is the best we can come up with? Good Lord, we are really worthless as a country.
Of course the liberal media wants to pick a white male to run their communist/democrat against. Even better if it's a Bush who they have demonized. We have to stop letting the media and democrats pick the GOP candidate.
We need to run a woman or minority. The GOP has never run a non-white male for President. Anyone see how the media wants this, to pick another white male for the GOP? Palin, Ayotte, West are my picks.
This is at least the 5th article I've see on this site saying Jeb Bush , of course these articles are from the liberal media like CNN, NY times etc.
This is from CNN
Of course the liberal media wants to pick a white male to run their communist/democrat against. Even better if it’s a Bush who they have demonized. We have to stop letting the media and democrats pick the GOP candidate.
We need to run a woman or minority. The GOP has never run a non-white male for President. Anyone see how the media wants this, to pick another white male for the GOP? Palin,CAIN, Ayotte, West, then Rubio , Martinez are my picks.
This is at least the 5th article I’ve see on this site pushing Jeb Bush( In the past DAY) , of course these articles are from the liberal media like CNN, NY times etc. We see who the media want to run against. The media picked Mccain, Romney 2 white males while knocking out Palin,Bachman Cain
You forgot the Barf Alert. My breakfast!
I have the results already. Bush loses!
Enough Bush Members in the White House!
MORE THAN ENOUGH clintins....
We need FRESH, YOUNG, NEW BLOOD FACES WITH NEW IDEAS AND LESS MOTHBALLS!!!!
I like the Bush Family but no, this is not a wise move.
I DO NOT CARE ONE IOTA for the clintins and in another four years I wouldn’t vote for her even if I was a Lib.
This freeper doesn’t see us making it to 2016 with the outcome on Nov. 6th. World events will alter the U.S.A. and the world forever, we pray for the best.
One has disgraced herself helping her boss sell out American interests all around the world, while the other carries a name that has been (fairly or not) so badly smeared that he’s probably unelectable.
We have over 300 million citizens and even illegal aliens can be elected President nowadays.
Certainly our political system can come up with some different candidates than these!?
I am putting the establishment on notice. I WILL vote third party if they run Jeb. I have HAD it with the Bush's. Although they are a little more personable than libs, they are still establishment, get along types. And Miz Barbra trashed Sarah Palin.
I have HAD it with these dufusses.
Jeb Bush vs. Hillary Clinton? Its time for me to shoot myself.
Yeah, seen this game before. You will all fall in line after the primaries and carry water for whatever hack the establishment coronates at the convention because hitlery will be on the other ticket. Probably jeb because it’s “his turn.” Just like it was mitten’s turn and bobdole’s turn. I saw it happen here before. Nevermind that a...ahem...prominant poster here called W a coke head and would never support him. How did that turn out? Take a look at how many people here said last year that they would never vote for that damned liberal morman but are still making excuses for him today.
Maybe not all of you will be jeb hacks, but I’ll bet most will.
Good year to go Galt during election season...
Jeb is also married to an Hispanic. 2016 will be, “Vote for liberal Jeb (he's married to an Hispanic, hurray!) because he's better than Hillary and if you don't vote for Jeb you are a traitor.”
Jeb will lose, then the next liberal R will run the next time and lose.
I don't think there will be a conservative ever again in the White House.
They are not worth, giving up. We all have to stick together. I think someone needs to design a secret code and a place to meet up :) Things in our government have been insane for so long!
“We need to run a woman or minority.”
Sorry, Republicans are not going to win until they get this racism thing figured out.
We can see what they did to West, right? and to Palin, Judge Thomas, that they don’t appreciate our Rice, Powell, going back to Jeanne Kirkpatrick, Republicans are not a party of sexism & racism. Geeze, they wouldn’t even show peilberg’s “Lincoln” before the election for fear that some might dare relate freeing the slaves with republicans.
WE have to inform our opinions as best as possible. THis is no ordinary struggle between parties. CNN is FOS and we are silly to take notice of anything they say.
Hillary is projected already as the winner of 2016 by horrified people in the know.
She oversaw the murder of one of her own while on the job and is a viable candidate.
This is what we’re up against.
Pandering and scraping for forgiveness of our racism is going to only incur more condemnation.
Ron Paul is doing this. So is the entire GOP senate and they’re stupid.
Can we stop it? It’s not the 1960s. Republicans can stop being loathesome of. . .Conservatives. That would be a start on the way out of this takeover.
First - What makes you think there will be Presidential Elections in 2016?
Second - If there are, why would you want a candidate indistinguishable from the opposition?
For Clinton to run, she’ll have to beat one of the Obamas. For Bush to run would mean the likely emergence of a third party.
And none of the above four would get my vote.
How could those two “lock ideological horns?” Both are big government promoters. She is just a little more openly “socialist” about and h is a nicer guy, not something over which to choose a ruler.
The media wants us talking Jeb Bush. I say let's talk Kelly Ayotte
My choices for President:
2. Kelly Ayotte
4. Nikki Haley
6. Susana Martinez
7. Marco Rubio
8. Janice Rogers Brown
We have to pick from one of these . Insane to pick another white male . the blacks see this , the Hispanics see this , the women see this so then the media brainwashing kicks in “Yeah Republicans must be racists”
Kelly Ayotte = very conservative Republican Senator:
-> Nikki Haley
Would be another Romney..
Being paranoid about a worn out, has-been, coattail rider is no way to go through life, friend.
Hey, I’m on your side.
Being in denial about what’s happening around us - look at who just got in - is no way to go.
The photo of BHO bowing to foreign dignitaries is a multitude more horrifying than this photo.
9. Allen West
No more white males for the GOP as they have never run a woman, or minority for President ever. Think people don’t notice (it’s as the media wants).
This freeper doesnt see us making it to 2016 with the outcome on Nov. 6th. World events will alter the U.S.A. and the world forever, we pray for the best.
I don’t know how much weight this Granderson person has with the GOP, but if we get another Bushie I’ll be convinced the GOP has convinced itself it will never have another President.
Wrong—it will be Obama’s Third Term (we will end the limit by executive decree) and the Democrats will make sure the GOP will pick someone who can’t win. Sarah Palin and Ron Paul!
I'm not in denial - I'm being realistic.
Hillary is simply too old and worn out to be electable. I'm sure if she announced she was running, she'd get the support of some of the 'grey ponytail' crowd, but she's ancient history to Dems in their 40s, 30s, and 20s. She was First Lady when a lot of those folks were in grade school.
A lot of Dems over 50 will probably roll their eyes demand a candidate who stands a real chance of beating the Republican (who we hope will be a dynamic and outspoken conservative). They're not going to be energized and enthused by a Hillary candidacy - again, because she's way past her sell-by date on the national stage.
Don't forget, that after January 2013, she's going to spend four years out of the limelight. How's she supposed to keep herself well positioned for a run at the presidency while she's out of office?
By 2016, Hillary will be old enough to be a great-grandmother. After eight thrilling years of their golden prince, Obama, do you really think they'll be falling over themselves to support an ancient hag for president? I don't.
Isn’t it obvious now that it doesn’t matter what you or I might want? The Demicans will nominate whom they wish and we will be stuck with the bill. Pick up a copy of Hillaire Belloc’s Crisis of Civilization. It’s not very lengthy but it’s packed with usable truth
for 1992 its Bush vs. Clinton
Underestimate the beast at our peril. She is favored among people who don’t want to see her do this but who have better arguments for than yours against.
But that aside, and let’s put it aside as it is most unpleasant, to use one of their arguments (that they lament making), who, among these horrible wimpy excuses for defenders of the Constitution, do the Republicans have to run against her?
There is no strong candidate, personality, character nor politician among them. Every one of them has been groveling to be forgiven for being a racist who hates Mexicans.
that’s going to beat any one they sed up? After what we just saw?
There is no strong candidate, personality, character nor politician among them.
Well, now. Opposition. A very good start.
Governor Nikki Haley is a woman and a minority. I wish she would run
Running anyone who cares what they think will sink it. A white man who is comfortable in his non racial nature/character can do it. He has to be above it,same as any woman or person of color. They slammed Thomas, Powell, when he worked for Bush I, Condi Rice, and look what they’ve done to West.
No they are racist and simply are good at projecting. The dopes who take the bait are done.