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Gingrich: House Republicans should stop negotiating with President Obama
The Daily Caller ^ | 11/29/2012 | Alexis Levinson

Posted on 11/29/2012 9:19:06 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather

Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich said Wednesday that House Republicans should stop negotiating with President Barack Obama and congressional Democrats on the fiscal cliff, saying that by doing so, they give Obama all of the leverage in the talks.

“One of the things I would say to House Republicans is to get a grip,” Gingrich said in a speech at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, Calif.

“They are the majority. They’re not the minority,” he said, enunciating the words as if explaining the concept to someone who did not understand it. “They don’t need to cave in to Obama; they don’t need to form a ‘Surrender Caucus.’”

“So my number one bit of advice to the congressional Republicans is simple: Back out of of all of this negotiating with Obama. The president is overwhelmingly dominant in the news media. You start setting up the definition of success finding an agreement with Obama, you just gave Obama the ability to say to you, ‘Not good enough,’” Gingrich said.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: boehner; brilliant; budget; debt; debtlimit; gingrich; majority; majoritynotminority; minority; negotiating; newt; newtgingrich; obama; stop; surrendercaucus
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"Get a grip!" lol!!!!!
1 posted on 11/29/2012 9:19:15 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather
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To: sheikdetailfeather

They should start negotiating out in public first - put out what they are willing to do on revenues and SPENDING CUTS right out in the open.


2 posted on 11/29/2012 9:21:21 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

They should start negotiating out in public first - put out what they are willing to do on revenues and SPENDING CUTS right out in the open.


3 posted on 11/29/2012 9:21:28 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Does Newt think the republican leadership (or anyone else) is going to listen to him?


4 posted on 11/29/2012 9:22:41 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Start passing bills in the House and force the Senate and President to publicly oppose them. Imagine Obama having to veto a bill which keeps middle class taxes at the current level when the alternative is that they are raised automatically, just to get his tax increases on the rich.
5 posted on 11/29/2012 9:22:52 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Big Bird is a brood parasite: laid in our nest 43 years ago and we are still feeding him.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

There’s simply no point in negotiating with the democrats these days. The days of negotiating acceptable deals with the democrats are decades behind us now.


6 posted on 11/29/2012 9:25:41 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
MY sentiments exactly. Everyone PLEASE call your rep, Dem or GOP and tell them this is NOT right.

For MY 2 cents - the Soc. Security Disability leaches that have been added to the system when they ran out of Unemployment funds are draining the Soc. Sec. fund even faster. That is a WELFARE set up. Am I right that those leaches (cheaters - not the truly disabled) get their money out of the regular Soc. Security fund money?

Sick of this. And remember if they take EVERY penny the rich make - it won't be anything but a drop in the bucket. Remind your Rep that, too. Tell them to grow a backbone. Dump Boo Hoo Boehner while your at it.

7 posted on 11/29/2012 9:26:04 AM PST by WaterWeWaitinFor (This great nation has chosen socialism over freedom and our constitution. How sad.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather; katiedidit1

NEWT IS RIGHT!


8 posted on 11/29/2012 9:26:27 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: ilovesarah2012

At least he’s saying it. And he’s completely right: they have the majority, but they’re acting like whipped puppies.


9 posted on 11/29/2012 9:27:13 AM PST by livius
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Doing nothing might be better than any “deal” the GOP is going to get!

Obama wants a trophy just for showing up, again.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2963936/posts
Deny Obama a Participation Trophy


10 posted on 11/29/2012 9:28:06 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: onyx

Newt is saying the Donks own it. So let them keep it.


11 posted on 11/29/2012 9:28:39 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: livius

I just can’t figure out why they are afraid to stand up to Obama.


12 posted on 11/29/2012 9:29:49 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Yeah, it’s not as if the people gave the GOP a mandate to control the purse strings.


13 posted on 11/29/2012 9:30:44 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

This is basically what Rush is talking about right now.


14 posted on 11/29/2012 9:31:52 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: sheikdetailfeather

I think Gingrich is the best GOP strategist we have. They should listen to him.


15 posted on 11/29/2012 9:31:52 AM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Is this the same Newt that was criticizing Romney for his
“gifts” comments ?


16 posted on 11/29/2012 9:32:09 AM PST by DOGHEAD
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Newt tried this tactic with Clinton and got burned bad.


17 posted on 11/29/2012 9:33:13 AM PST by Arthurio
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To: onyx
I agree. The republicans should keep saying “you turned down Simpson Bowles, you turned down our plan(Ryan), where is your plan with details?”
Of course they will lose in the court of public opinion if they are the ones who come up with cuts. Every time they do they get demogogued because cuts are unpopular. All they should say is that they will negotiate when they see the plan. Period.
18 posted on 11/29/2012 9:33:13 AM PST by Old North State
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Rush is parroting Newt.


19 posted on 11/29/2012 9:33:38 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: onyx

MARK LEVIN: Republicans should buy prime time TV spot to explain truth about fiscal cliff directly to the people (CRUZ, RYAN AND RUBIO)

http://www.therightscoop.com/mark-levin-republicans-should-buy-prime-time-tv-spot-to-explain-truth-about-fiscal-cliff-directly-to-the-people/


20 posted on 11/29/2012 9:33:54 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Oops. Too late, Newt. As I write this, Mitt Romney is sitting down to lunch with the Pres. Guess who’s getting stuck with the bill?


21 posted on 11/29/2012 9:34:21 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: ilovesarah2012

“Does Newt think the republican leadership (or anyone else) is going to listen to him?”

They SHOULD listen to him. He’s RIGHT. It was the GOP that tossed Newt out of the House. Tom DeLay and others.

And if Mittens was as angry and vendictive to Obama as he was to Newt and the others - HE’d be prez right now. But NOooooooo.

That’s another thing - totally off topic. WHY is Mittens going to lunch with The Won? Sickening.


22 posted on 11/29/2012 9:34:21 AM PST by WaterWeWaitinFor (This great nation has chosen socialism over freedom and our constitution. How sad.)
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To: Old North State

Precisely.

Let the Marxist take the country over the cliff.


23 posted on 11/29/2012 9:34:29 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: WaterWeWaitinFor

What a collective bunch of inept losers. Some basic rules of negotiation: (1) you don’t give away your negotiating position before the negotiations commence; (2) you speak with a single voice; (3) you define the debate on your terms, not theirs. e.g. “we won’t agree to tax increases on anyone” vs. “we want tax cuts for everyone, even the rich”.

Bush was warned when he caved into the Dems demands that the tax cuts would be time limited, that this would come back to haunt the GOP. The Dems and media always cast the debate in terms of the GOP wanting tax cuts for the wealthy, when the debate is really that the Dems want tax increases. The Stupid Party really is.


24 posted on 11/29/2012 9:35:03 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Hear! Hear!

Go for it.


25 posted on 11/29/2012 9:35:26 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

McCain, Flake, Corker and Peter King support RAISING TAXES in VIOLATION of campaign pledges not to!!


26 posted on 11/29/2012 9:35:29 AM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Easy, They are all part of the same club, and all that matters is that the club stay intact, regardless of the outcome and effects on the Taxpayers, who the last time I looked does not have a Union or Lobbying wing to Bribe and Shower with exotic gifts the Public Servants duly elected to Public Office, whereas Big Corps and Public Employees do. The sole purpose of our Congress over the last 50 years is to do the bidding for the Ruling Class, Wall Street, Bankers at the direct expense of the Taxpayers, They run the show.


27 posted on 11/29/2012 9:37:32 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: sheikdetailfeather
“They don’t need to cave in to Obama; they don’t need to form a ‘Surrender Caucus.’”

I hope Boehner and the quislings will listen to Gingrich. I believe Gingrich learned his lesson well from when he led the GOP "surrender caucus" in 1996 that caved to the scumbag Clinton.

28 posted on 11/29/2012 9:41:18 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Boner should listen to Newt. He might learn something.


29 posted on 11/29/2012 9:41:57 AM PST by Qwackertoo (Going into Politic Free Zone Momma Grizzly hibernation for a while after this week, maybe forever.)
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To: DOGHEAD; sheikdetailfeather; Cincinatus' Wife

“Is this the same Newt that was criticizing Romney for his “gift” comments?”

Newt has been known to be an equal-opportunity criticizer, so no surprise there.

Look, it’s possible he thought it was *strategically* wrong for Mitt to make the comments he made that got into the public arena.

Strategy is one thing, actual substance is another.

That aside, what difference does that make to the point Newt is making? I agree with his point.

And I’ll go one better...there is no negotiation with Obama going on. Because Obama isn’t negotiating, he’s propagandizing. The only negotiations are among Republicans who are negotiating with themselves in the news media.


30 posted on 11/29/2012 9:42:42 AM PST by txrangerette ("hold to the truth...speak without fear". (Glenn Beck))
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To: sheikdetailfeather; All
Tell the "Weeper of the House" to "get a grip" and stop the stupid idiot negotiating!

(202) 225-6205

31 posted on 11/29/2012 9:43:00 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: WaterWeWaitinFor

“WHY is Mittens going to lunch with The Won? Sickening.”

Er, uhhhh......because they’re on the same team?


32 posted on 11/29/2012 9:43:38 AM PST by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Stand up to 0bama? Here's why:


33 posted on 11/29/2012 9:45:28 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: littleharbour; onyx

“The Dems and media always cast the debate in terms of the GOP wanting tax cuts for the wealthy, when the debate is really that the Dems want tax increases. The Stupid Party really is.”

YEP - what YOU said. It is like WE the People do not have ANY representation in DC once they start giving away the farm. I am so sick to my stomach when the GOP does this. Get that darn McCainiac and lightfoot Lyndsey off our stage. Already giving in on the Rice thing - tax cuts and anything else the Dems want.


34 posted on 11/29/2012 9:45:49 AM PST by WaterWeWaitinFor (This great nation has chosen socialism over freedom and our constitution. How sad.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

The Pubbies in the House need to REMIND the American people that the Dems ALREADY RAISED TAXES: OBAMACARE, 21 NEW TAXES!!!!!


35 posted on 11/29/2012 9:47:31 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: ZULU
McCain,Flake,Corker and Peter King support RAISING TAXES in VIOLATION of campaign pledges not to!!

ZOMG! You mean politicians lied to us?! (/sarcasm)

has it sunk in yet that neither party in any branch or level of government care what any of us think? If the dems had the votes they would repeal the entire bill of rights tomorrow. The GOP would immediately denounce this as too extreme and offer their plan to phase it out over two years instead.

36 posted on 11/29/2012 9:48:28 AM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: ZULU
McCain, Flake, Corker and Peter King support RAISING TAXES in VIOLATION of campaign pledges not to!!

What I hope (more than truly suspect) is that these guys are saying this crap merely to stop the scumbag Democrat newsrooms from painting them as "intransigent" and "unwilling to compromise". That is, I'm hoping the talk by some Republicans about tax hikes being "on the table" is a public relations puff and nothing more. As far as I'm concerned, let's go over the cliff rather than cave.

The Republicans should ALREADY be talking about how "intransigent" Ubama is, and they should be shouting to the heavens that Ubama is "failing to lead". You KNOW the scumbag Democrat newsrooms are focused on how they can smear the GOP House, so the pubs better launch a brutal counteroffensive immediately and repeat the mantra, "Ubama's fault, Ubama's fault, Ubama's fault..."

37 posted on 11/29/2012 9:49:48 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

You are absolutely right. There is so much they could say.


38 posted on 11/29/2012 9:50:40 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: sheikdetailfeather

There’s no such thing a compromising with Obama. His only position is “Here’s what I want, take it or leave it”. If the Pubs refuse they are accused of “refusing to compromise”.


39 posted on 11/29/2012 9:50:48 AM PST by circlecity
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To: PowderMonkey

With all due respect to both you and Mitt, his lunch with O while seeming silly (yet, it’s socially correct to accept an invite to the WH, and Mitt is THAT). to us is not going to have any substantive effect. Mitt holds no cards in this “struggle”.


40 posted on 11/29/2012 9:51:20 AM PST by txrangerette ("hold to the truth...speak without fear". (Glenn Beck))
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To: txrangerette

If they go “over the Cliff” then up to 60 million taxpayers will be subject to the AMT. Do you think the republicans will let that happen?
AMT is brutal.


41 posted on 11/29/2012 9:52:38 AM PST by DOGHEAD
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To: WaterWeWaitinFor; littleharbour

Yep, once the stupid party use the demonic-rats words “the wealthy” or “the rich,” instead of “small business owners,” or “the job creators” they lose three quarters of the battle.

The GOP has never learned how to frame an argument and never learned to stop trying to make friends with the enemy media.


42 posted on 11/29/2012 9:53:54 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Rush is saying the exact same thing right now. STOP negotiating.

LLS


43 posted on 11/29/2012 9:58:28 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: Arthurio
No, he shut down the country and clinton blamed him a d the republicans. This decision that will go into effect is one that was agreed upon by both parties and signed off on by obama. Let the car go over the cliff... obama is driving... it has to be done to save the republic.

LLS

44 posted on 11/29/2012 10:02:03 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Go Newt...FUBO!


45 posted on 11/29/2012 10:05:54 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: KarlInOhio

Good idea.


46 posted on 11/29/2012 10:08:02 AM PST by sanjuanbob
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To: sheikdetailfeather

The only representation nearly half of the country has right now is in the House! Stand and fight for that half damn it!!


47 posted on 11/29/2012 10:10:20 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: ilovesarah2012

Newt is right.

BUT, there are Republicans who are working toward some of the same aims as Obozo.

Leftist, Muzzies and some Globalists intend to subject the world. They are a real threat to Christians and Jews.

FUBO! And the RINO shills.


48 posted on 11/29/2012 10:10:59 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: txrangerette
there is no negotiation with Obama going on. Because Obama isn’t negotiating, he’s propagandizing. The only negotiations are among Republicans who are negotiating with themselves in the news media.

Exactly. Newt is the only Republican of any stature who understands Realpolitik: i.e, "political realism or practical politics, especially policy based on power rather than on ideals."

Obama and the Left understand it very well. They ultimately agree with Mao's Little Red Book comment: "Every Communist must grasp the truth, political power grows out of the barrel of a gun."

49 posted on 11/29/2012 10:11:43 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Find a spine would be better. Millions and millions of us voted not to have big government. Let those that did pay for it themselves.


50 posted on 11/29/2012 10:11:57 AM PST by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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