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Video: Feds shut down 100-year-old oyster company, destroy some lives and dreams
Hot air ^

Posted on 11/29/2012 6:37:42 PM PST by TigerClaws

Hey, no bigs. It’s just a 100-year-old company and California’s only surviving cannery, a sustainable, family-owned operation employing 30 people. The Drakes Bay Oyster Company has been in a seven-year fight with the federal government and environmental groups over whether it’s 40-year lease would be renewed this week. The Lunny family, which owns the oyster farm, was among a group of families that sold their ranch lands to the National Parks Service in the 1970s to protect them from developers, with the understanding they would get 40-year-leases renewed in perpetuity. After buying and operating the oyster farm without incident— they were even featured as outstanding environmental stewards by the National Parks Service— the Lunnys learned in 2005 they were accused of bringing environmental damage to an area the NPS and environmentalists were anxious to designate as the nation’s first federally recognized marine wilderness.

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1 posted on 11/29/2012 6:37:49 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Just wait until you see what Ubama has planned for everybody’s bank accounts.


2 posted on 11/29/2012 6:39:18 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Labor unions are the Communist Party of the USA.)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

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3 posted on 11/29/2012 6:44:09 PM PST by Nachum (The List is off the Google blacklist- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I lost all my bank accounts in a horrible boating accident


4 posted on 11/29/2012 6:45:34 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: TigerClaws

The lesson here: Don’t trust the Federal government, even if you have something in writing.


5 posted on 11/29/2012 6:47:03 PM PST by Arm_Bears (The MSM lies about conservatives; and it lies about liberals.)
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To: TigerClaws
with the understanding

No contract, no sympathy.

6 posted on 11/29/2012 6:47:27 PM PST by PAR35
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To: TigerClaws

Elections have consequences.


7 posted on 11/29/2012 6:49:25 PM PST by sport
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To: al baby

LOL!


8 posted on 11/29/2012 6:49:59 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: TigerClaws

Blazing Saddles II


9 posted on 11/29/2012 6:49:59 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: TigerClaws

To think they actually trusted the government?

Sleep with dogs, gonna get fleas.


10 posted on 11/29/2012 6:55:27 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: TigerClaws

It’s simply the end of perpetuity.


11 posted on 11/29/2012 6:55:43 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Happy 10th FR birthday to meeeeeeeeee)
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To: TigerClaws

They just joined the GM prefered /bond/share holders, and those who supported US in Viet Nam, or the rebels who looked to US in Iran ....
DEMOCRATS ARE LIARS...AND TODAYS DEMO-COMS ARE WORSE THEY DON’T EVEN BELIEVE IN GOD


12 posted on 11/29/2012 6:57:01 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("A voice crying in the wilderness make streight for the way of the Lord")
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To: TigerClaws

Problem is the bureaucrats are still getting their paychecks. When it actually affects them then they’ll realize they’ve killed the golden goose.


13 posted on 11/29/2012 6:57:52 PM PST by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - both were a coup d'etat.)
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14 posted on 11/29/2012 6:58:00 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: al baby

LOL


15 posted on 11/29/2012 6:59:41 PM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: mosesdapoet

Probably one of the 1%r’s so they deserved it.


16 posted on 11/29/2012 7:03:19 PM PST by technically right
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To: TigerClaws

“the nation’s first federally recognized marine wilderness.

I have been through this area. It seems like all the coastline is some type of protected area from Monterey up to this area.
This seems unnecessary. Just another attack on human activity and private enterprise.


17 posted on 11/29/2012 7:04:24 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Witty saying goes here...)
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To: sport

Did they support the “wrong” person or wouldn’t they “play”?


18 posted on 11/29/2012 7:05:15 PM PST by WellyP (question!)
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To: sport

Did they support the “wrong” person or wouldn’t they “play”?


19 posted on 11/29/2012 7:05:33 PM PST by WellyP (question!)
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To: PAR35

(from the article) :” ..with the understanding ...”

PAR35~:” No contract, no sympathy.”

Even with a written contract ,” ..with the understanding ...” even if it was written into the contract doesn’t mean squat to this administration .

Look what they’ve done with the Constitution (written document)
Swore to uphold and “ defend the Constitution to the best of their ability , to enemies , both foreign and domestic,...” (bear false witness )
And then look what they have done ...
And then look at their proposed agenda ..

All bets are off ...
We dont have an administration , we have a regieme .. !
We don’t have an agenda , we have a pogram (correct spelling) !!


20 posted on 11/29/2012 7:07:54 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt ("You never want a crisis to go to waste..."- Rahm Emanuel)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
This seems unnecessary. Just another attack on human activity and private enterprise.

Muslims believe oysters to be haram, IIRC. Just sayin'.

21 posted on 11/29/2012 7:13:35 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: WellyP

I would lean toward the supporting the “wrong person” theory.


22 posted on 11/29/2012 7:15:31 PM PST by sport
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To: Arm_Bears

That’s right....DON’T TRUST THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. The longest standing treaty between the Federal Government and the original Americans took 7 days from the time the Federal government signed with the Seminols, in Florida, was seven (7) day. The Feds came in and broke their word, as they’ve done with every other treaty between the “originals” and Federal Government. The federal government’s word will never be worthy of going into my compost heap, and that’s the manure. Their word means NOTHING.


23 posted on 11/29/2012 7:20:25 PM PST by tillacum
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To: TigerClaws
The Lunny family, which owns the oyster farm, was among a group of families that sold their ranch lands to the National Parks Service in the 1970s to protect them from developers, with the understanding they would get 40-year-leases renewed in perpetuity.

If the "understanding" was not in writing, they are screwed. I can't believe people are this stupid. I was involved in a similar land sale in Tomales Bay nearby and am very familiar with the bureacracy with unlimited funds at their disposal, and the illegal restrictions they can impose which they then claim reduces the value of the land and the purchase price.

The Pacific Foundation has been very successful in fighting both the state and federal governments when they play the illegal abuse of power thing. I hope this family is getting help from them.

24 posted on 11/29/2012 7:21:10 PM PST by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: WellyP

A large check written to Organizing for America would solve this problem in a heartbeat.


25 posted on 11/29/2012 7:27:18 PM PST by Haiku Guy (If you have a right / To the service I provide / I must be your slave)
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To: TigerClaws

The Lunny family,,,, was among a group of families that sold their ranch lands to the National Parks Service in the 1970s to protect them from developers,,,”

And did we all learn an important lesson about deals with the devil?


26 posted on 11/29/2012 7:31:45 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: TigerClaws

They are part of the 1%, don’t worry about it.


27 posted on 11/29/2012 7:32:46 PM PST by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: DesertRhino

When you sell your soul to Satan, he collects.


28 posted on 11/29/2012 7:33:54 PM PST by sport
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To: sport

Wonder if that Family would show up on any Obama donor lists? Or if they are one of the few repubs still in California?


29 posted on 11/29/2012 7:34:10 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: TigerClaws

If the Feds didn’t shut them down, California would have. I bet it was a joint operation.

Oh, and the US EPA wants to make the California Cap and Trade system effective nationwide, thus any business doing business in CA (or is tied to CA businesses) would have to abide by CA’s Cap and Trade system.


30 posted on 11/29/2012 7:36:17 PM PST by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: TigerClaws

And FDR wanted to “borrow” everyone’s privately owned gold... He he...


31 posted on 11/29/2012 7:36:37 PM PST by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: sport

“When you sell your soul to Satan, he collects.”

That whole down at the “crossroads” thing.


32 posted on 11/29/2012 7:37:43 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Arm_Bears

THE INDIANS FOUND THAT OUT


33 posted on 11/29/2012 7:41:15 PM PST by Venturer
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To: TigerClaws

Comments on the Marin IJ site indicate that the Obama-voting Marinites are outraged by Salazar’s decision...but they still can’t understand how their own votes led directly to it.


34 posted on 11/29/2012 7:41:48 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: DesertRhino

My guess is that they probably would. I can’t recall it off the top of my head but there was a previous post that stated that the family sold the property to the feds in the 1970s to protect it from developers. The “protection from developers” phrase leads me to believe that they were environmental idiots.


35 posted on 11/29/2012 7:43:36 PM PST by sport
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To: Aria; Nachum
Problem is the bureaucrats are still getting their paychecks. When it actually affects them then they’ll realize they’ve killed the golden goose

And at that point they will be the first in line for "FEMA" camps or the first to be eliminated in the spirit of all true Marxist countries.

36 posted on 11/29/2012 7:46:07 PM PST by GILTN1stborn
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To: TigerClaws

Idiotic socialists f***ing idiotic socialists.

I see no good guys here. A pox on both their houses.


37 posted on 11/29/2012 7:52:11 PM PST by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: Arm_Bears

Right. Just ask Messers Sitting Bull, Crazy Horse, Chief Joseph, et al, if you don’t believe it.

I once saw a bumper sticker that said: CUSTER HAD IT COMING!

And after thinking about it for a while, I concluded that the arrogant bastid probably did!


38 posted on 11/29/2012 7:54:31 PM PST by Tucker39
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To: TigerClaws

“The Lunny family, which owns the oyster farm, was among a group of families that sold their ranch lands to the National Parks Service in the 1970s to protect them from developers, with the understanding they would get 40-year-leases renewed in perpetuity. “

What sort of nincompoop does that?


39 posted on 11/29/2012 8:03:30 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: TigerClaws

“The Lunny family, which owns the oyster farm, was among a group of families that sold their ranch lands to the National Parks Service in the 1970s to protect them from developers, with the understanding they would get 40-year-leases renewed in perpetuity. “

What sort of nincompoop does that?


40 posted on 11/29/2012 8:03:47 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: TigerClaws

This is great news, they vote for the bastard-in-chief they deserve what they get. What did they think it was only the rich that would be affected, well how’s that hope and chnge working for you CA, look at the tax dollars they just lost.


41 posted on 11/29/2012 8:12:35 PM PST by stockpirate (Democrrats stole the election via fraud, we will never have a free election again.)
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To: TigerClaws

This is great news, they vote for the bastard-in-chief they deserve what they get. What did they think it was only the rich that would be affected, well how’s that hope and chnge working for you CA, look at the tax dollars they just lost.


42 posted on 11/29/2012 8:12:42 PM PST by stockpirate (Democrrats stole the election via fraud, we will never have a free election again.)
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To: stockpirate

I’m still standing in awe of someone possessing a beachfront property in California and thinking, “Hey, the Federal Government should own this property to prevent it from being developed”.

What that says is THEY love the life on the oceanfront, but feel like nobody else should ever be able to enjoy what THEY do. Selfish A-holes.


43 posted on 11/29/2012 8:31:19 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: ccmay

What sort of nincompoop does that?
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I probably would ,, “protect from developers” is probably code for California was about to sieze the property for developers .


44 posted on 11/29/2012 8:40:25 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: DesertRhino

If your comment wasn’t sarcasm you must be a communist troll here on FR.

But they were only leasing the property or the last 100 years from the government, and your coments are stupid even for a Rhino.


45 posted on 11/29/2012 9:05:01 PM PST by stockpirate (Democrrats stole the election via fraud, we will never have a free election again.)
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To: DesertRhino
What that says is THEY love the life on the oceanfront, but feel like nobody else should ever be able to enjoy what THEY do. Selfish A-holes.

You are 100% correct about what are called neighborhood nannies. In Virginia Beach
on the beach front property I was talked to by two old ladies who owned huge
newly remodeled homes on the Chesapeake bay. They were complaining about their neighbor
rebuilding their home into a larger house that was about the same size as theirs.
They started a petition to stop the building through the city counsel, and lost big time.

I gave them a talking to and they shut up about it, but still did the petition.
They came after my home with a petition also because it was rezoned for a larger residence,
and they had zero reason to do this. They lost that also. But they only need
to win one time to set precedence for future petitions.


You can bet they are in every neighborhood. Most of the time they are friendly little old ladies
who love to chat you up. What they are really doing is gathering information against you
for future use should the opportunity arise. And since they love to chat, just listen to their words and you'll know.

46 posted on 11/29/2012 9:32:03 PM PST by MaxMax
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To: sport

Marin County is a very beautiful place and across the Golden Gate Bridge from San Francisco so very desirable as a bedroom community. In the 1970s the county and it’s residents decided to restrict building in many places. The effect was that the price of real estate sky rocketed and is still very high, not depriciating in any real manner.
This family sold out to that “we have ours so who needs other poor folks around to dirty up our pristene place” and I don’t really feel sorry for them.
I lived in Marin for 35 years.


47 posted on 11/29/2012 10:03:51 PM PST by tinamina
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To: TigerClaws

Stoopit White people. Serves them right.../s

Sucks, really...

I liked eating a barbecue place across the street that grilled mussels, tuna and clams.

I normally won’t touch shellfish but, it’s part of the experience in that area.

Yummmmm....

I should go this week and get in on it before they are toast...


48 posted on 11/30/2012 12:28:23 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: TigerClaws

the Lunnys learned in 2005 they were accused of bringing environmental damage to an area the NPS and environmentalists were anxious to designate as the nation’s first federally recognized marine wilderness.

I need read no further...

The Lunny Family is about to become the Loony family who thought to trust their government.


49 posted on 11/30/2012 12:29:51 AM PST by wita
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Well, except Tamales Bay.

Seems like you can still get Tamales there....


50 posted on 11/30/2012 12:31:14 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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