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Grover Norquist: 'We Are About to Have a Tea Party Second Wave that Will Dwarf the First Wave'
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Posted on 11/30/2012 8:24:24 AM PST by caseyn

Americans for Tax Reform Chief Grover Norquist predicts a huge new wave of the Tea Party is coming. The Victoria Taft Show 11/29/2012 We are about to have a Tea Party second wave that will dwarf the first wave and that is because while 'spend too much' brought the Tea Party into existence, we're about to walk into 'spend too much, regulate too much, and tax too much, all together. It's going to be a perfect storm of annoying government behavior, which is devastating to the economy, and I think the small business community which is particularly hit by Obama's tax increases are going to lead the fight bigger, stronger, tougher than the last Tea Party.

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1 posted on 11/30/2012 8:24:26 AM PST by caseyn
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To: caseyn

Conserve America Party File.


2 posted on 11/30/2012 8:25:26 AM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: caseyn

If so, we’ve really got to do something about their only being effective in non-presidential election cycles.


3 posted on 11/30/2012 8:26:39 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Graewoulf

ONLY if we split from the GOP. If not, it’s just so much hot air.


4 posted on 11/30/2012 8:27:10 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: caseyn

Norky needs to go away and for those who are desperately trying to repair his islamoasskissin reputation, forget it. The last thing the tea party needs is an islamopologist.


5 posted on 11/30/2012 8:27:28 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: caseyn
And Hitler had a whole bunch of secret weapons that were going to turn the tide of the war in early 1946.

Timing is important, you know. And sometimes things don't happen at the time when they were really needed.

6 posted on 11/30/2012 8:28:54 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Global Warming is a religion, and I don't want to be taxed to pay for a faith that is not mine.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

ONLY if we split from the GOP. If not, it’s just so much hot air.


So you are saying the marxists can take over the Dem party but conservatives are too pansy to take control of the GOP? We won’t win anything with that attitude. Is that what you want?


7 posted on 11/30/2012 8:29:23 AM PST by lodi90
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To: caseyn

I hope he’s right, but right now I thinks it’s about three weeks late.


8 posted on 11/30/2012 8:29:32 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: caseyn

I doubt it.
We didn’t even finish voting out the bailouters.

Wimps


9 posted on 11/30/2012 8:30:55 AM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: lodi90; RIghtwardHo

RIghtwardHo may not be saying it, but I am.

Where were conservatives in the recent election?


10 posted on 11/30/2012 8:31:21 AM PST by AlmaKing
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To: lodi90

That’s exactly what I am saying because it sure hasn’t even come CLOSE to happening yet. We got McCain ... Romney ... and we are being marginalized completely. No. We will never take over the GOP if for no other reason that we don’t have the money to do so. Ain’t gonna ever happen. We will be stuck in this election cycle where we get mislead all the way to election day, lose, and then they start misleading us again til next time.

No. We will never take over the GOP. Sad, unfortunate, but true.


11 posted on 11/30/2012 8:32:11 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: cripplecreek

bttt


12 posted on 11/30/2012 8:32:23 AM PST by metesky (Brethren, leave us go amongst them! - Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond, The Searchers)
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To: AlmaKing

Glad you said it. ; )


13 posted on 11/30/2012 8:33:06 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: caseyn
Unless the GOP gets their act together, the Dems will most likely take back the House and even get 60+ votes in the Senate. The GOP is too busy fighting conservatives to be bothered with winning elections.
14 posted on 11/30/2012 8:33:22 AM PST by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: caseyn

It’s time for Norquist to bring back the “Leave Us Alone Coalition”.


15 posted on 11/30/2012 8:33:40 AM PST by tentmaker (Galt's Gulch is a state of mind...)
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To: caseyn

Think he’s right on this. When the zombies open their pay stubs and they realize what they have done to them selves there will be converts


16 posted on 11/30/2012 8:34:24 AM PST by reefdiver
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To: lodi90

The truth hurts.

Conservatives are too pansy to take on the GOP and/or are to stupid to execute a strategic plan to take over the Senate.

Not only that, they let many of the tax and spenders and tax and bailouters stay in both houses of Congress.


17 posted on 11/30/2012 8:35:18 AM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: lodi90

Marxists did not take over the Demorat party. It was always corrupt and statist. Corporatists have taken over the Repub party. They will not go away, best they be left standing at the altar.


18 posted on 11/30/2012 8:39:51 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (Better the devil we can destroy than the Judas we must tolerate.)
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To: AlmaKing
Where were conservatives in the recent election?

Demonstrating that a phoney conservative cannot win.

19 posted on 11/30/2012 8:41:40 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (Better the devil we can destroy than the Judas we must tolerate.)
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To: Lorianne

Nothing says pansy like daydreaming about a 3rd party on a friday.

We just got steamrolled by one of the worst Preisdents in history. It might be wise for conservatives to take some notes on how he did it.


20 posted on 11/30/2012 8:44:21 AM PST by lodi90
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To: cripplecreek

Agreed—Grover has been a festering Islamist boil on conservatism for some time now.


21 posted on 11/30/2012 8:45:05 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: caseyn

As long as Democrats continue to run the school systems, we are fighting a losing battle. We have to fix this problem.

Likewise, the news and entertainment media. Let Democrats define what is information, and what is important, and we will remain behind the curve slipping farther and farther behind. You can’t let your enemies define the truth to your kids over decades without cost.


22 posted on 11/30/2012 8:45:27 AM PST by marron
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To: caseyn

“Don’t make me come back armed” - sign at September 12 march.


23 posted on 11/30/2012 8:45:43 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: caseyn

Unfortunately, the Tea Party brand is too tarnsished to do much good.

That being said, they could always pull an ACORN. Come back with the same organization but different name. Most Americans are too dumb, bored, or lazy to follow the pea from one shell to the next so it works quite well.

The Tea Party got started because people wanted to revolt against a tyrannical government. Rename the Tea Party with “Revolution” in the name and you’ll get the same backing.


24 posted on 11/30/2012 8:46:02 AM PST by Kenny (<p)
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25 posted on 11/30/2012 8:46:20 AM PST by RedMDer (Please support Toys for Tots this CHRISTmas season.)
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To: reefdiver
When the zombies open their pay stubs and they realize what they have done to them selves there will be converts

I'm convinved that the great majority of mumbling morons will look at their pay stub and think back to recent media reports -- "Dang! This check is really small ... Bush tax cuts ... House giving money to millionaires ... Bush tax cuts ... this check is really small ... Bush tax cuts ... Boy I hate Republicans ... Hope Obama can fix this ..."

26 posted on 11/30/2012 8:49:13 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Global Warming is a religion, and I don't want to be taxed to pay for a faith that is not mine.)
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To: caseyn

I kind of doubt it. It would take something really radical like the Government nationalizing all 401Ks to wake the sheeple out of their slumber.


27 posted on 11/30/2012 8:50:28 AM PST by rbg81
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To: 9YearLurker

Tea Party was not ineffective. Rather, the Dems got people to the polls. The only way to win Prez elections in the future is to start now developing a masterful GOTV apparatus AND to do a much better job of education through TV, etc. (No, I don’t mean just trashing liberals, as fun as that is. I mean simply doing what the public schools refuse to do — give basic non-threatening education about the Constitution, economics, etc.)


28 posted on 11/30/2012 8:55:51 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: caseyn

If the media doesn’t cover it, it didn’t happen. That’s where we are now. We need massive rallies even though no one will know they happened. Beck’s ‘Restoring Honor’ comes to mind.


29 posted on 11/30/2012 8:56:59 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: caseyn

Too late.

They missed the election.

The cavalry shows up after the battle? Gee thanks....


30 posted on 11/30/2012 8:57:01 AM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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To: rbg81

“The Tea Party got started because people wanted to revolt against a tyrannical government. Rename the Tea Party with “Revolution” in the name and you’ll get the same backing.”.......

It won’t need to be renamed when the real revolution starts. Buy more guns and ammo. Get ready and BE ready.


31 posted on 11/30/2012 8:57:12 AM PST by Progov
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To: 9YearLurker

Conservatives don’t need him or his pledges to do the right thing. At the top of the list should be telling him to take his islamist sensibilities and go teach the democrats about fiscal responsibility.


32 posted on 11/30/2012 8:57:19 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: caseyn

I’m not convinced.

right now folks just seem bewildered and depressed

one thing is we have to replace the GOP...most of it...we cannot split from it

but in reality

it’s all bullshit really

this will lead in time mto politics by other means...the demographic friction alone

our ancestors would have been gearing up already..mine did..but we lost...fair warning


33 posted on 11/30/2012 8:58:11 AM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: 9YearLurker

It’s no surprise they have more effect in congressional elections than in presidential elections.

Massive turnout in “democrat safe” districts has no bearing on the statewide results.


34 posted on 11/30/2012 9:01:38 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: caseyn

The fact that Grover thinks he has any credibility left is amazing.


35 posted on 11/30/2012 9:03:29 AM PST by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

” - - - if we split from the GOP - - - “

As long as we have an election system that credits the plurality candidate as the winner, a third party option would be mainly for lobbying purposes.

If the rules are changed to 50 % plus one vote, or a simple majority of those voting is the winner, then and only then does a third party have a chance against either of “both” of our sorry political parties.

This is a long way around to say that IMHO, we Conservatives must take over the sorry RINO Party by 2014 or 2015.

Grover has the backbone, and we provide the elbow grease.

Attend your nearest ‘Always lose at all Costs’ RINO Party meeting and work to take them over.

BTW, it shouldn’t be much of a problem, as most are tired of losing every election.


36 posted on 11/30/2012 9:05:27 AM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: caseyn

Well, they had better call it something else - because they have already lost the name and image to the well-orchestrated Democrat caricature of a bunch of wild-eyed social conservative racist gun nuts.


37 posted on 11/30/2012 9:06:08 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: caseyn

Apparently he’s not familiar with voter fraud. Fraud will cut heavily into Tea Party votes. Plus all those who say they’ll never vote again BECAUSE of fraud.

I’ve been talking about how your vote doesn’t count for a long time. I guess lots of votes didn’t count this past election.


38 posted on 11/30/2012 9:07:50 AM PST by Terry Mross (I haven't watched the news since the election. Someone ping me if anything big happens.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

ONLY if we split from the GOP. If not, it’s just so much hot air.

******************

Agreed.


39 posted on 11/30/2012 9:24:11 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Where would Christianity be if the early church put its hopes and trust in the Roman empire?)
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To: lodi90

Excellent point. The only path available is to take over the GOP. Even if we do that the best we can do is slow down marxism. Given projected demographics and MSM and school indoctrination our situation is quite dire.


40 posted on 11/30/2012 9:29:00 AM PST by plain talk
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To: caseyn

And, surprise!

In four years, the Republicans will respond with the nomination of... yet another Milquetoast, lukewarm, middle-of-the-road Republicrat.


41 posted on 11/30/2012 9:30:54 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: dinoparty

On the presidential level the tea party was as good as nonexistent. They couldn’t get a good conservative candidate fielded, let alone to win the nomination, and then of course Romney lost to Barry.


42 posted on 11/30/2012 9:45:13 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: caseyn

Give Boehner and McConnell the boot...


43 posted on 11/30/2012 9:45:30 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("God only knows it's not what we would choose to do." - Lyric from Us and Them - Pink Floyd)
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To: caseyn

Too late now, the damage is done. Where were they before the Dick Tater won a second term? Not once did I see an article with anything to do with the Tea Party. The Press was saying they were dead and they didn’t even respond to that.


44 posted on 11/30/2012 9:53:59 AM PST by fish hawk (no tyrant can remain in power without the consent and cooperation of his victims.)
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To: cripplecreek

Uh huh. I never really knew who or what Grover Norquist was all about...until I read an article about him yesterday.

The last thing we and/or the Tea Party folks need is someone like him hijacking the mantle. Vigilance.


45 posted on 11/30/2012 9:53:59 AM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: lodi90

“So you are saying the marxists can take over the Dem party but conservatives are too pansy to take control of the GOP? We won’t win anything with that attitude. Is that what you want?”

I’ve been a life-long member of the GOP, and I have come to hate it with a passion because it is run by people who are not the least bit Conservative. I realize that we have a two-party system and that third parties have never been successful. It is also equally true that the “conservatives” have never been able to take control of the GOP. So just what would you suggest we do that will work? I am all ears!


46 posted on 11/30/2012 10:02:15 AM PST by vette6387
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To: lodi90

The truth is most of the Tea Party congresscritters that were
sent in 2010 have already been turned by Bonehead and Cantor
and the DC elites.
We send them, they turn them.
Trent Lott was right. “You Can’t change Washington”


47 posted on 11/30/2012 10:03:47 AM PST by tennmountainman
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To: caseyn

Or, as Grover would rather refer to it, a jihad.


48 posted on 11/30/2012 10:03:47 AM PST by TADSLOS (No need to watch the movie "Idiocracy". We're living it.)
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To: reefdiver

Dream on.


49 posted on 11/30/2012 10:08:14 AM PST by karnage
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To: caseyn

The fact that the media gives this islamic wolf in sheeps’ clothing credence says enough about the state of the GOP.

I prefer the following from Robert Spencer:

as an alternative to Norquist’s toxic cocktail of No Taxes Plus Collaboration with Islamic Supremacists, a genuinely pro-freedom tax pledge. Call it the Robert Spencer Tax Pledge. Here it is: “I solemnly pledge to oppose new tax increases, to work to cut existing tax rates, and to oppose Muslim Brotherhood infiltration in our government and the concomitant dismantling of our resistance to the jihad and Islamic supremacism.”

Link: http://frontpagemag.com/2012/robert-spencer/grover-must-go/


50 posted on 11/30/2012 10:08:46 AM PST by CharlesMartelsGhost
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