Skip to comments.The Obama-Piven Strategy
Posted on 11/30/2012 11:13:52 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
We are in the middle of an epochal struggle over the direction of American economic policy.
The Democrats, who are currently in charge, want to follow a Keynesian model, which entails massive government spending with its attendant tax increases and soaring deficit to jump-start the economy.
The Republicans think the solution to our economic doldrums is to lower taxes and decrease spending, to stimulate business activity and help the nation climb out of its crippling debt.
And then theres Barack Obama .
You might think he would be the natural spokesman for the Democratic strategy. And when the cameras are turned on, he is. But under the surface hes also an advocate for a third economic policy, one that isnt spoken of in polite company: The Cloward-Piven Strategy.
Problem is, the Cloward-Piven Strategy is not simply some alternate theory about the best way to rescue the American economy. Quite the opposite, in fact. Its goal is to intentionally ruin the economy, so as to arouse popular outcry for a revolutionary and fundamental change in our economic system.
I propose that President Obama is simultaneously trying to rescue the economy using the Keynesian/Democratic model while at the same time also trying to destroy the economy through the Cloward-Piven Strategy. His two mutually contradictory plans cancel each other out, rendering all his efforts self-negating, and this explains why the American economy has stalled.
I dub this the Obama-Piven Strategy. And its the reason why we remain mired in a deep recession. We are neither recovering, as the Keynesian model predicts, nor is capitalism collapsing, as the revolutionaries hope; the Obama-Piven strategy ensures that we remain in suspended animation between the two extremes.
(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...
THIS ARTICLE IS OVER 2 YEARS OLD!!
In order to understand what the HELL is happening to our once great country, it's important to go back and read old articles such as this one; An article from 2010 that completely NAILS who and what Obama is all about. Obama is willfully driving America towards a slow collapse. Brilliantly executed, irreversible debt is Obama's death knell to America. Unless something radically changes the course we're on and we AT LEAST GET A BUDGET IN THE SENATE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 4 YEARS, there is no outcome for America other than the Cloward-Piven scenario. This article should send chills through the spines of anyone who reads it.
Have we become so dissensitized to being outraged that we've fallen victim to complacency? I believe so.
I also believe that if 0bama were white he'd been impeached and removed from office long ago. 0bama's race allows him to destroy America while hiding behind a race card which no one has the guts to challenge for fear of being demonized as 'racist' in the media.
What will fear of being called 'racist' get you? The complete destruction of the United States of America, and it's Constitution. Words cannot describe.. Maybe 'SURREAL'?
Please change the NAME OF THE LINK from 'About.com' TO 'pjmedia.com'.. My apologies. Thank you!
(I’m just gonna repost my reply from another thread)
We aren’t even facing the basic conflict.
Democrats are all about hate and class warfare. They don’t give a rat’s patoot about the country, the economy, or anything else. Just punish the Kulaks and take what they want for themselves. Rinse and repeat.
We are all about growth. That is why we try to defend lower tax burdens for all, including the wealthy, because that’s where a lot of growth comes from. When there is growth, there is more of everything for everyone, and a way forward toward balancing the budget and a better future.
The conflict has gone right by us. We are negotiating with an adversary about what we think are economic goals we share, in order to avoid hardship and destruction. But the reality is that is exactly what these people want, a destroyed United States.
Unless and until our side starts to get honest, and accuse the president of desiring to destroy capitalism and of being a champion of communism, WE HAVE NOTHING. You can’t win the class warfare argument defending tax cuts for the wealthy. It’s not an argument we should even be having. A majority of the voters are now useful idiots that hate capitalism, the press is entirely dominated by bolsheviks, and the administration is full of true believer communists. We need to identify our enemy, establish why it is universally repugnant and evil, and connect them to it. The people must be made aware of the world view that these people share, and how it is not their world view. It is a simple matter to connect Obama and each of his advisers, appointees, czars, and friends through ACORN to SDS to Alinsky to Gramsci to Karl Marx.
How about at one of these meetings with the president, our guy asks him what he thinks of Saul Alinsky and has he read his works? Is he aware that Alinsky dedicated his book to Lucifer? As a supposed Christian, I assume you know who Lucifer is?
Ask him a question that appears in the test for citizenship. What type of economic system we have in the United States? Ask him to compare and contrast socialism and capitalism and to defend capitalism as BETTER.
Ask him to his face if he knows that Frank Marshall Davis, his mentor, was a card carrying communist who despised this country and wrote pro Stalin soviet propaganda?
As far as I can tell, no one has asked Obama to his face to give an account for his world view.
Back to the economy and the fiscal cliff. There isn’t going to be any significant economic growth because communists are destroying the country, and growth is anathema to them. There aren’t going to be any budget cuts because communists are destroying the country and they want MORE debt, not less.
Ideas and elections have consequences. All we have left is the truth.
The most effective way to achieve Obama’s goal of destroying the United States is to let all those secession proposals go forward.
“Divide and conquer”.. Sun Tzu, ‘The Art of War’ if I remember correctly. You’re addressing the soft war aspect of their implementation of Cloward-Obama-Piven. 0bama uses many tactics, mostly that of Alinsky and sprinkle in a few of his other idols such as Davis, Malcolm X, Soros, Hugo Chavez, Che..
Divide and conquer...
Otherwise known as diversity.
Consider, even for a moment, that Obama really isn’t a socialist bent on destroying the United States. Socialists, the real ones, actually care about the people in a country. Does Obama display any behavior that would show he cares about the country? He does things to show he’s a good Democrat, but caring about our citizens? Please. Look at how he doesn’t mourn our dead. He goes out golfing. He sends his wife on shopping sprees. He’s taking a 20 day vacation to Hawaii. No real socialist would be caught dead doing that. That’s the kind of behavior you have to confess at the re-education camp when your socialist buddies take over. He is not a socialist. He’s a grifter, a con man, a pickpocket. He needs to be unmasked, not feared. He’s not afraid of being shamed. He doesn’t particularly care about living in the US after his term is up. He can just as easily live in a mansion in Indonesia as live in Chicago. We have got to stop believing that he thinks and cares like we do. He doesn’t. Understand him for what he is....a grifter.
“Understand yourself and understand your opponent, and in one hundred battles, you will not be defeated.”
We’re in deep doo-doo because not ONE man in Congress will MAN UP and face the race card head on, breach it, then call Obama on his sabotage of our free-market, capitalist Republic.
If you want to figure out what the Democrat leaders really are, here’s what should happen. Boehner introduces a bill that requires the President, his cabinet, all nationally elected politicians and all government employees in the D.C. Area to grow and eat their own food. Let’s see Comrade Pelosi shoveling manure for awhile. The leaders of the Democrat party aren’t socialists. Shoot, they’re not even Democrats. They are LIBERCRATS....a cross between a Libertarian and a Democrat, and there’s nothing lower on this planet.
Except, as any student of economic history can tell you,
KEYNESIANISM NEVER WORKED ONCE IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD!!!
Keynesianism is a non-economists excuse for more government spending, dressed in drag, and called "economics."
I know 0bama went to 0ccidental, a sucky school. Probably they taught that Keynesianism works. Fools.
But any economist in the real world who stopped smoking dope realizes that governments don't prime pumps, they burn money. And some of those economists are even Democrats. They just prefer government control instead of freedom, even at the expense of economic recovery.
That's it. They want control, not improvement.
Thank you all very much!!
Woo hoo!! And were now over 98%!! Less than $1.7k to go!! We can do this.
Let's put this baby to bed!!
I do not wish to have it pointed out to me by some whiz kid at this late stage of the game, that World War II was a colossal mistake , an international misunderstanding for which the United States was proportionately responsible. World War II was nothing of the kind. It was an event wherein the military giants of those several Axis states decided that they could get away with an incredible land grab, a nation grab, a super-Napoleonic defacement of a world-sized map. They did this with the enthusiasm of their nationals behind them. In minor dissension may have sounded the voices of a few ardent patriots and heroic philosophers; but those were not the majority. An horrific chorus shouted, Duce!, or Banzai! or Heil Hitler! Eventually, because of the sacrifices endured by our men and the entire populations of Allied countries, the enemy went down to defeat. Enemy cities were pulverized or fried to a crisp. It was something they asked for and something they got. In reverse fashion, if we keep listening to the gospel of apology and equivocation which all too many politicians and savants are preaching today in the United States, we will be asking for the same thing. And in time, may achieve it. Like witch doctors, defense intellectuals have created jargon which tends to becloud understanding. I submit that military strategy and subsequent national defense policies are understandable if clearly presented. Moreover, the average citizen must be familiar with these subjects, because, through his franchise, he makes the most fundamental and far-reaching defense decisions.
General Curtis LeMay 1965
We have some terrible, fundamental and ultimately existential decisions to make.
Looks like you’ve also got a copy of “Mission With LeMay”.
...he'd never have been elected.
Yep - we do well to listen to the wisdom our older warriors. They looked evil in the face and knew it for what it was.
Now, who dares speak like this?
I posted the article because it's two years old and made the point then that 0bama is INCOMPATIBLE with America's economic principles.
Unless and until our side starts to get honest, and accuse the president of desiring to destroy capitalism and of being a champion of communism, WE HAVE NOTHING. You cant win the class warfare argument defending tax cuts for the wealthy. Its not an argument we should even be having. A majority of the voters are now useful idiots that hate capitalism, the press is entirely dominated by bolsheviks, and the administration is full of true believer communists. We need to identify our enemy, establish why it is universally repugnant and evil, and connect them to it. The people must be made aware of the world view that these people share, and how it is not their world view. It is a simple matter to connect Obama and each of his advisers, appointees, czars, and friends through ACORN to SDS to Alinsky to Gramsci to Karl Marx.
Great points. As i see it, our best chance of educating the unaware masses of where we are headed is to take to the streets in peaceful, organized protests, with the sole purpose being to shine a light on Obama's use of Cloward-Piven strategy to abolish our Constitution and institute a Marxist government.
I spent an hour searching and cannot find any valid rebuttals against the obvious fact that obama is using the cloward-piven strategy. THEY CANNOT REFUTE THE TRUTH.
To heck with playing defense; the liberal press can continue to shape the news. By switching to an offensive, in.your.face (yet peaceful) stance, we can bypass the media. This was what was so effective about Dr. Raoul's street protests.
i fear that very soon, we will pass the threshold into a time where the only option is armed resistance. If this happens, they have the upper hand. Once we hit critical mass, whether it's by circumstance or by Obama's design, they will be writing the agenda and have total control vis-a-vis martial law declaration.
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