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Obama Slaps States That Don't Comply With Obamacare
Newsmax ^ | Saturday, 01 Dec 2012 01:42 PM | Sandy Fitzgerald and Martin Gould

Posted on 12/01/2012 12:26:17 PM PST by Olog-hai

Residents of states that refuse to set up health insurance exchanges under Obamacare are set to be hit with higher premiums under new rules announced by the Health and Human Services Department.

Insurance companies will be charged 3.5 percent of any premiums they sell through the federal exchanges, the department announced Friday. And insurers are likely to pass that surcharge on to clients, leaading to higher premiums.

The only states to be affected are those that refuse to set up their own exchanges because of opposition to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. They are almost certain to be those under Republican control. In those states, HHS will set up the exchanges. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: classactionlawsuit; illegal; impeach; jarrett; obamacare; pharaoh; punishoposition; socialism; taxesoriginatehouse
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To: HiTech RedNeck

They probably had commie think tanks like the Apollo alliance writing the 2500 pages for a decade or more. They are very clever


51 posted on 12/01/2012 1:12:27 PM PST by bigtoona
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To: lyby

>> “that and the “powers-that-be” either support his views or are SCARED of him.” <<

.
The First Black William Jefferson Clinton?


52 posted on 12/01/2012 1:14:38 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: CommieCutter
Someone get some dirt on this bastard.

Dirt!? Dirt!?

There's enough dirt on this creep to start a garden bed three 4 feet deep on the deck of the frakkin' Intrepid while she sits at dock on the Hudson.

But...as long as the NY Times, NBCBSABC are running cover for him...olny so much dust to be swept away.

53 posted on 12/01/2012 1:15:06 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.)
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To: bigtoona

A first revolution was begun over taxes, and not even because those taxes (stamp act) were going to be more than a trivial economic burden but because they would be so impossibly intrusive (all printed matter).

Will a second one begin over taxes? “Peaceful” or not? In principle peaceful avenues exist; in practice some malicious venom has paralyzed what would have been a very restive body politic. So many people actually think of our government as some omnipurpose do-gooder rather than the malignant wart it has evolved into. If an issue comes up, oh let’s let Uncle Sam (if not Uncle State) solve it. Pahtooey!


54 posted on 12/01/2012 1:18:08 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: CommieCutter

Problem is it seems this bastard has MORE dirt on everyone else.

Roberts caved and there is not one judge with the balls to say someone has standing..

Bonehead never had any balls so perhaps Zero does not need any dirt on him.


55 posted on 12/01/2012 1:19:38 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: editor-surveyor

Illicides may not leave physical bodies like Arkancides did, so much as permanently impotent political bodies. The ease by which fatal dirt can be laid on a career by the media/democrat collusion is breathtaking.


56 posted on 12/01/2012 1:20:03 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: cableguymn

Boner doesn’t want to be unfaaaaaaaair to those poor Democrats.


57 posted on 12/01/2012 1:20:54 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Twinkie

“Just a few days ago, I heard our Governor remark that the administration was ignoring the state officials responsible for crafting the healthcare programs. He elaborated on it; then said “it’s not right”. I don’t know what’s happened since.”

Perhaps the time is right for a “Conference of Conservative States” — in which the governors (and other officials) of the deep-red states get together to discuss how they might unite amongst themselves to counteract the growing tyranny of the federals in D.C. ... :)


58 posted on 12/01/2012 1:21:56 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: Road Glide

Throw sand in the gears.


59 posted on 12/01/2012 1:22:54 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

WHEN will we insist, like the abortionettes, “get gummit off my body”???


60 posted on 12/01/2012 1:26:22 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Pass the pipe please!

The next election will give you 33 seats you may be able to replace with people who would convict.

Even if you won all 33 seats..

that leaves 67 remaining...

Your not going to remove this POS through impeachment.

I might even go as far as to say there is no legal way anyone is willing to take to remove this POS. We can only hope his maker calls him home (through natural causes of course)


61 posted on 12/01/2012 1:28:21 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

to be blunt.. that worthless f#%@ should just switch parties and be done with it. Or better yet. retire. Now.


62 posted on 12/01/2012 1:30:23 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: Kansas58

You sound like an expert.

Consider this if you would: It is my understanding that the first few years if you decline to purchase health insurance then you pay a penalty of about $95.00 a year, but you receive no health insurance coverage.

I believe that somehow the “47%” (the Illegals, Treyvons & Co.) will pay nothing yet still receive health insurance coverage. (Remember Nancy Pelosi nearly swooning over the thought of all the Americans who could “become artists, musicians!” etc.?)

So, those of us expected to actually pull this barge loaded with deadbeats, across rocks, can go mini-Galt by becoming part of the 47% in order to bring the whole thing down.

And won’t that happen if the premiums that working people are paying aren’t covering expenses—like General Motors, the health care company that builds a few battery powered cars nobody wants?

It wouldn’t take very long at all, would it, factoring in as well the bloated bureaucracy that will be required to administer this Frankenstein’s monster?


63 posted on 12/01/2012 1:30:32 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Olog-hai

This is completely Un-American, I wonder if Rush will now say it’s time to panic?


64 posted on 12/01/2012 1:32:12 PM PST by PROCON (Tyranny won, God help us.)
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To: tumblindice

Alright adjusted myself to be able to live at 47% levels.

I am so done pulling the wagon.

I’m not getting in it. I’ll just walk along side and point and laugh at them.


65 posted on 12/01/2012 1:33:09 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: eCSMaster

This country is in full tilt. “Laws” are nothing but dictates from a White House and its agencies that answer to no one. (Read about Elena Kagan’s philosophy for more on that) We are America in name only. Always thought the end would be a full nuclear exchange, not some third world piece of crap taking over the White House.


66 posted on 12/01/2012 1:34:13 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Olog-hai

Even if we own it (our home, property, money, 401k,etc.), eventually they will steal it from us through taxation and crazy fees. We will OWN nothing—the government will own all. This will not be just, but to them it will be “fair.”


67 posted on 12/01/2012 1:35:20 PM PST by madison10 (“Obama’s fools and Stalin’s fools share the same drink of illusion.” ~~Pravda)
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To: CommieCutter

..................Someone get some dirt on this bastard................

There’s all kinds of dirt on the POS, all we need is someone with influence to grow a pair!


68 posted on 12/01/2012 1:35:45 PM PST by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: Olog-hai

he really wants chaos and civil war in this country.


69 posted on 12/01/2012 1:36:17 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Olog-hai

The house needs to cut off funding for:

OB Care,

WH Czars

The UN and any support of UN activities in the US


70 posted on 12/01/2012 1:36:38 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: PROCON

no need to panic. You need to do the other P word. Prepare.

Money will be worthless. Hard assets and lead will be used to trade (or take) goods.

Get away from the inner cities.

Find means of communication that do not rely on the grid. (ham radio, shortwave, CB)

If Obama manages to bring down america there will be blood spilled. I am already 40 miles from the inner city. my GTFOOD spot is another 100 and takes a 4 wheel drive to get to. If it gets really bad I’m off to the mountains where my mother-in-law lives with a true mountain man. The path to them is all red states once I leave my blue one.

I use to think preppers where nuts. Now.. Not so much ;)


71 posted on 12/01/2012 1:37:14 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: Olog-hai

You get this by electing a Dictator.


72 posted on 12/01/2012 1:37:21 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: tumblindice
My answer rests on an important question:

Will insurance companies have the guts to operate in States which resist Obamacare and which resist the exchanges of any type?

Yes, I do agree that Obamacare will collapse, the problem is that we must be ready to blame that collapse on Obama and the Democrats.

We are in a bad spot, perhaps, since we do not want to cooperate, and therefore we will be blamed for the collapse.

We need extensive documentation in the blue, Obamacare State Exchange States that this is not working the way it was advertised, and we need “push back” media and leaders to make that case.

Yes, I think there are countless ways to resist Obamacare, and we should avoid funding it at every opportunity, which will hasten reform of health care reform.

73 posted on 12/01/2012 1:39:25 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: RoosterRedux

..........................Completely changing a huge industry on whims of the Administration will be like creating workable prototype automobiles for the entire nation without knowing how automobiles are actually designed, manufactured, financed, marketed, or repaired.....................

Oh, aren’t we already doing that with Fiskers that self immolate, Volts that a stacked up like firewood in lots all around the country, as the union Volt workers play poker in the cafeteria all day?


74 posted on 12/01/2012 1:42:56 PM PST by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: Olog-hai

75 posted on 12/01/2012 1:43:28 PM PST by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: Safrguns

How many right here on FR said there is no difference between Romney and Obama? I have contempt for everyone who refused to lift a finger to stop this mad man.


76 posted on 12/01/2012 1:43:40 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: timestax

77 posted on 12/01/2012 1:45:32 PM PST by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: Olog-hai

It is time for our government to go.


78 posted on 12/01/2012 1:47:20 PM PST by bmwcyle (Women reelected Obama)
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To: timestax

79 posted on 12/01/2012 1:47:27 PM PST by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: eCSMaster

Somebody needs to give Obozo a 3rd eyeball...


80 posted on 12/01/2012 1:49:23 PM PST by jrg
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To: eCSMaster
IMPEACH THAT Son of a B!TCH!

It requires every bit of self control now to not wish something far worse on that bastard. I'll just leave it at that.

81 posted on 12/01/2012 1:49:46 PM PST by Marathoner (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
How many right here on FR said there is no difference between Romney and Obama? I have contempt for everyone who refused to lift a finger to stop this mad man.

Romney wanted to repeal and replace Obamacare. Romneycare might have even been worse.

I think he might have gotten more votes if he had left out the replace threat.

82 posted on 12/01/2012 1:51:28 PM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: timestax
PRINT THESE OUT @ KINKOS AND PUT ON CAR BUMPER, ETC.

>


83 posted on 12/01/2012 1:52:20 PM PST by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: timestax

84 posted on 12/01/2012 1:53:26 PM PST by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: timestax

85 posted on 12/01/2012 1:56:00 PM PST by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: timestax
THEIR CORRUPTION DOESN'T COUNT !


86 posted on 12/01/2012 2:00:12 PM PST by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Wouldn’t have mattered. Obama had more than enough fools to vote for him. Then there was voter fraud.

Face it One way or the other he was going to be re-elected. And the Republican Party conspired in that scheme by forcing another liberal candidate on us.


87 posted on 12/01/2012 2:04:18 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Newbomb Turk; All
This government is going to buckle under the weight of it's own greed before next spring. Just watch.

Bad but maybe not that bad.

If we fall off the cliff, go here to see what my CPA told us.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2964507/posts

For better or worse I have this CPA friend, and Enrolled Agent and they are freaking. I'll save you the 411 as to what I have learned over the last month, it is scary, the IRS and these tax pros are running out of time to do their job everyday Obama drags this out.

Worse is my discussions with people in business and those who interact with small businessmen every day.

I have not heard a good word for post 12/31/12

Everyone is prepping for Obamacare, i.e. reducing staff to 28 hrs or dumping people into the exchanges, hanging onto cash, not going foward with capital projects, closing down businesses or selling to competitors because they are no longer going forward organizations and they are wiped out trying to eek out a living the last 4 years.

MY guess Jan, thru April with this business stuff and Taxamageddon might finally wake people up.

BTW Turk, their is a man in a major domo outfit in the Basketball Court and he is Farting :-)....

88 posted on 12/01/2012 2:05:59 PM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: timestax

89 posted on 12/01/2012 2:06:34 PM PST by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: timestax
THE MEDIA SITS ON HIS SCANDALS

90 posted on 12/01/2012 2:11:48 PM PST by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: timestax
THE MEDIA SITS ON HIS SCANDALS

TARGET THE MEDIA..TARGET THE MEDIA


91 posted on 12/01/2012 2:15:32 PM PST by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: fatnotlazy
BS!!!! No one forced anyone on anyone. This is nuts. How many "establishment" types called you and put pressure on you to vote for anyone you did not want to support--NONE--that's how many.

The fruitcakes here on FR have for months tried to make "the establishment" out to be the bogeyman but it's all a myth.

I had NO pressure on me to support anyone I didn't want to in the primary.

Now, you want to blame this on "the establishment". I have no idea if you supported Romney or Obama and I don't care but for ANYONE who knew who Obama was and they refused to stop him, I have nothing but contempt for each and everyone of you.

Maybe you want to help pay my crying daughter's health insurance premiums.

For ANYONE who said there is no difference between Romney and Obama, I say you are an idiot. Thanks a lot for the havoc you have helped create in our once great nation.

92 posted on 12/01/2012 2:15:41 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: taildragger

The ultimage “going galt” is forgetting something in April.


93 posted on 12/01/2012 2:23:24 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: taildragger

The ultimate “going galt” is forgetting something in April.


94 posted on 12/01/2012 2:23:36 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To think Roberts had the chance to bury this monstrosity.


95 posted on 12/01/2012 2:28:45 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: bigtoona

I was a member of a flight attendant’s union.

I cannot tell you how many times I personally heard - or heard happened to other flight attendants - when questioning something in our contract that was vague, “I know that is what it says but that is not what it means.”

The ambiguousness is always quite intentional and will never be ruled in your favor.


96 posted on 12/01/2012 2:44:11 PM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Gene Eric
To think Roberts had the chance to bury this monstrosity.

I'm so sick of these people.

97 posted on 12/01/2012 2:45:20 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: ColdOne

“he could take live kittens/puppies and toss them into boiling hot water on live TV..........all you would hear about it is***crickets***”

One of Jimmy Carter’s secret service men wrote a book and detailed how JC went after a small dog with a bow saw because the hungry puppy dared to eat JC’s cat’s food.

http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/tag/jimmy-carter/page/2/

And yet, when President George W. Bush was driving on his farm- ON HIS OWN PRIVATE PROPERTY- with his seatbelt off, that stayed in the headlines for days.


98 posted on 12/01/2012 2:50:05 PM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

>>> How many right here on FR said there is no difference between Romney and Obama? I have contempt for everyone who refused to lift a finger to stop this mad man.

I’m not sure if you are aware of this or not, but this election was not about either of them.

The election was about the 47% keeping their free stuff.

The 47% were more motivated to vote to keep their stuff than the 51% were about keeping their earned stuff.

Combined with the obvious voter fraud on a scale we have never seen before, this election was over before it started.

We are great producers... Great innovators... and Great complainers...

But we suck at enforcing the law that the democrats consistently thwart.

What should we expect to happen when it comes time for a “fair election”?


99 posted on 12/01/2012 2:50:29 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: Noob1999
Oh, aren’t we already doing that with Fiskers that self immolate, Volts that a stacked up like firewood in lots all around the country, as the union Volt workers play poker in the cafeteria all day?

Not even close. Fiskers and Volts are built by auto engineers and manufacturers.

Obamacare is going to be built by bureaucrats.

Heheh.

Kaboom!

100 posted on 12/01/2012 3:02:38 PM PST by RoosterRedux (He will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats)
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