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NSA Whistleblower: Everyone in US under virtual surveillance, all info stored, no matter the post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuET0kpHoyM ^

Posted on 12/02/2012 1:42:05 PM PST by Orange1998

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuET0kpHoyM


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 666; bigbrother; echelon; emails; nsa; projectechelon
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Basically every email is collected for later use. No wonder Bill Clinton boast he only sent two email as President.
1 posted on 12/02/2012 1:42:12 PM PST by Orange1998
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To: Orange1998
Well then.....Uncle Sugar Sux!!

Store that one.

2 posted on 12/02/2012 1:44:58 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777

Our Government has long been showing signs of a paranoia. Our Government needs to be confined for it’s own safety and the safety of others.

Our Government is absolutely insane.


3 posted on 12/02/2012 1:46:28 PM PST by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: Orange1998

To some, Geroge Orwell’s “1984” wasn’t a cautionary tale, but a handbook.


4 posted on 12/02/2012 1:48:44 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Orange1998

Not for nuthin. As much as I loathe the Kenyan regime...

...Bush and his buds signed off on lots of this crud.


5 posted on 12/02/2012 1:49:34 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Orange1998

Obama is the worst president in the history of the USA. He needs to resign. Wished I could say more.


6 posted on 12/02/2012 1:50:59 PM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: Orange1998
Etc.

NSA Whistleblower Details How The NSA Has Spied On All US Citizens Since 9/11

Whistleblower: NSA is watching all of us

National Security Agency whistle blower (4 videos)

7 posted on 12/02/2012 1:51:20 PM PST by Theoria (Romney is a Pyrrhic victory.)
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To: BCR #226
Our Government has long been showing signs of a paranoia.

It isn't really insane. In fact, it is almost perfectly rational. No matter how nobly its founding principles, every government (every bureaucracy, for that matter) at some point becomes motivated solely for its own continued survival. It is not bound by the principles of liberty, freedom, equality, etc. etc. etc. It is bound only to self-perpetuate.

8 posted on 12/02/2012 1:52:17 PM PST by newheart (The greatest trick the left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: Orange1998

can you say OVERWHELM the system?


9 posted on 12/02/2012 1:56:08 PM PST by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: Orange1998
FR progress. A few years ago, guys like this were called traitors on here. Maybe Obama is good for something.

Shep Smith had a good one the other day. “Why aren't the people worried that we will become another Greece worried that we're becoming another East Germany?”

10 posted on 12/02/2012 1:56:08 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: Orange1998

I believe that the government collects every email written. Here’s why.

The government consists of bureaucrats who are constantly looking for a reason to maintain their little kingdoms inside the divisions and departments of the state. Collecting every email sounds like the sort of ditch digging make-work that the state used to do with an updated technological twist. It sounds more impressive than it is, in other words. I would imagine that there are trillions, maybe more, of emails sitting in some computer somewhere. How does the state sift out what it needs from that? And those who are actually involved in some kind of nefarious activity aren’t going to put in their address line, “Cocaine shipment at the docks with tonight’s freighter.” How does the state sift through code words, idiom, nuance, and hint that people use to communicate?

So it sounds like government appropriations in a supersized effort to look like something important is happening, when actually it’s a huge cluster chasing stupidity with money down the toilet. In that way it makes sense.

And if really bad guys wanted to get around this, they’d write notes on paper.

Like Clinton did, no doubt.


11 posted on 12/02/2012 1:57:30 PM PST by redpoll
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To: Orange1998
Tor and GPG.
12 posted on 12/02/2012 1:59:56 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: BCR #226

Not only insane, too expensive, too intrusive, too controlling, too big.


13 posted on 12/02/2012 2:03:14 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: Orange1998

Now you know why the General and his cupcake used the “Draft” cutout and never sent emails to each other.


14 posted on 12/02/2012 2:03:14 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Orange1998

The combination of voyeurism and the obsessive compulsion to collect the personal information of everyone at all times indicates two things.

1) Extreme boredom. There is not enough of a real threat to keep them occupied, so they deal in imaginary threats, then theoretical threats, then just voluminous mountains of utterly useless data. Why? Because it is there, and needs to be spied on.

2) Inefficiency. This indicts not just the intelligence community, but the entire government. They cannot deal with the major issues and real threats, so they focus on minutiae and data worth little more than randomly generated nonsense.

The East German Stasi was somewhat like this, keeping enormous dossiers on its citizens, filled with information like toilet paper consumption, routes to and from work, when they would eat lunch, etc. And even though they had coerced half the nation to inform on the other half, it still amounted to nothing.

The bottom line is that the United States 16 major intelligence agencies, its 100+ federal police agencies, and its other horribly bloated bureaucracy are unsustainable and need to be seriously pruned. Not just because they are overgrown and inefficient, but because the US needs some amount of what they are supposed to be doing, which they are not because they are messing around with trivia.


15 posted on 12/02/2012 2:05:06 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: redpoll

WIRED magazine months back had the cover story on the biggest NSA farm being built in the desert. Scary stuff. I found it hilarious that Google was ‘concerned’ about govt requests “90%” of the time when they are in cahoots directly with the NSA and even helped create that private airport for Google execs in Florida. That’s why i never subscribed to gmail or use Google docs.


16 posted on 12/02/2012 2:05:23 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Orange1998
If no-one noticed the host is with the channel RT, which is Russia Today. It seems to get the news, that the US refuses to report on, one has to go overseas. I first saw RT on Dish Network at work, and there is only 1 admitted liberal there, by a hardcore prepper.

News and they have some smoking hot hosts.

17 posted on 12/02/2012 2:07:27 PM PST by SledgeCS (Good Men Died. Obama Lied. Impeach the LYING COWARD!!!)
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To: Orange1998

You can be assurd, everybody on this website is under surveillance. We are enemies of the State; a terrorist group with a terrorist website.


18 posted on 12/02/2012 2:11:38 PM PST by Vinylly
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To: Vinylly

lol.

There are some real criminals they should be monitoring out there.


19 posted on 12/02/2012 2:14:34 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Dallas59

You, Sir, for saying what you just said, will soon have a knocking at your door some 2:AM mornining where you will be carried off in chains, never to be heard from ever again.


20 posted on 12/02/2012 2:16:12 PM PST by Vinylly
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