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TEA PARTY VS. PROGRESSIVE REPUBLICANS BATTLE FOR THE SOUL OF THE GOP
www.theBLAZE.com ^ | December 3, 2012 | Meredith Jessup

Posted on 12/04/2012 1:16:06 AM PST by Yosemitest



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: establishment; gopcivilwar; republican; tea
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To: Hardraade

Reagan and the “killer instinct”. Do you mean GHWB, Sandra Day O’Connor, or others who undermined his administration measures?


21 posted on 12/04/2012 5:08:37 AM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
Then there is no point in running primaries ~ what you've done is shut out the rank and file Republican voters.

Tell you what, it's much better to purge the GOP-e. They're the ones with the bad candidates who can't win even when the election is handed to them.

22 posted on 12/04/2012 5:31:09 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Hardraade
True, but God's people know how to fight.
And most of the retired military know how to fight.
But if we do fight, we have to fight the judges too. To do this right, the Republicans MUST START HEARINGS TO DRAW UP BILLS OF IMPEACHMENT for the Arab-Kenyan Barack Hussein Obama II, (a.k.a. Barry Soetoro) and for all who had any thing to do with his TREASON.
It must be televised, and it must include every dirty detail against them we can find.

Benghazi is the drum to beat.

23 posted on 12/04/2012 5:34:29 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: broken_arrow1
Thank you for reading it.
Pass it along to those you think will use it for good.
24 posted on 12/04/2012 5:36:25 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Strategerist
Do you have some links to prove "Turnout for Romney was higher than in 2008, and is still higher even when accounting for population growth."?
25 posted on 12/04/2012 5:38:31 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: central_va
Anything to avoid the facts, right? < /sarcasm>
You could always go to the original source !
26 posted on 12/04/2012 5:42:08 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Strategerist
Be careful how you deal with total turnout versus Republican voters and Democrat voters.

The Democrats suffered a serious drop off in voters ~ Republicans failed to achieve as high a total as they had in 2004, but there was no 2008 to 2012 drop off.

At the same time there were still 10s of millions of potential Republican and Democrat voters out there who did not vote ~ as is usually the case.

We already know there's little mixing of the two bodies of voters ~ that sort of thing happens only over a long period of time and by the election, people who are going to vote know how they're going to vote. Probably the reason why someone who says he's switching is news ~ 'cause it doesn't happen all that often.

The purpose of a political party is, after all, to win elections. They do this by building up a following that can be depended on to vote for the party's candidates. To get the voters to turn out they present fresh, intelligent and ideologically compatible candidates.

One screw-up and you lose ~ e.g. you decide the party is really just a narrow faction of serious donors within the party and the others just go along, because, after all, where else can they go. Another one is to run old used up candidates with a reputation for being dull ~ or disinterested in issues where the voters are interested. Then, let's say you run a candidate who'd be better matched by the other party ~ well, let's just say what Harry Truman said, Democrat voters know that when faced with a choice between a real Democrat and a fake Democrat they'll pick the real Democrat every time.

27 posted on 12/04/2012 5:45:28 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
"Then there is no point in running primaries ~ what you've done is shut out the rank and file Republican voters..... it's much better to purge the GOP-e. They're the ones with the bad candidates who can't win even when the election is handed to them."

Sorry, I just don't agree. I would much rather have had only two candidates vieing for primary votes. One would have been Romney (chosen by the GOP establishment), and one would have been whoever the Tea Party "establishment" chose.... perhaps chosen by all the Tea Party candidate wannabes (Palin,Bachmann,Cain,Newt, & Santorum) getting together and deciding among themselves which one of them they will all agree to support. I could have lived with any one of those rather than Romney.

28 posted on 12/04/2012 5:46:08 AM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie mmm mmm mmm)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
I think you might see that very action about backing one candidate, and the TEA party telling the Establishment Republicans"
29 posted on 12/04/2012 5:46:47 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

“Establishment Republicans”

Basically 1970’s Democrats.....


30 posted on 12/04/2012 5:47:02 AM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: upchuck
I couldn't agree with you more!
They did.
31 posted on 12/04/2012 5:49:16 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
All you needed to do was have closed primaries ~ that way you wouldn't have had all those Democrats showing up to vote for Romney. They knew he was the weakest possible candidate.

Remember for Conservative Republicans Romney wasn't ever a contender ~ NOT EVER ~ not this year, not in 2008 ~ NEVER.

In a closed primary he'd never gotten more than his 20% standard.

32 posted on 12/04/2012 5:51:56 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: mo
You got that right !
33 posted on 12/04/2012 5:54:09 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: muawiyah
QUESTION reference the voter drop-off: I guess the signed sheets where people met the pollsters to get their cards that activate the electronic voting machines would show a real count,
but sign-in sheets could always be "lost" and new BLANK numbered sign-in sheets could be re-printed.
But I'm sure the Obama minions would NEVER think of something so corrupt, let alone ... actually do it.
34 posted on 12/04/2012 6:06:38 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: muawiyah
"All you needed to do was have closed primaries"

Are you saying that Romney didn't win in any states that had closed primaries?

35 posted on 12/04/2012 6:09:14 AM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie mmm mmm mmm)
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To: muawiyah
Do you believe there was Voter Fraud?

Someone wrote:
I don't completely agree.
I believe there WAS ENOUGH Voter Fraud to throw the 80 Electoral College Votes from Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Florida.
I also believe that had Romney SAVAGED Obama, like he SAVAGED the Conservatives that ran against him in the Primary, Romney would have gotten more votes in the General election.
So yes, it's Romney's fault, but there WAS ENOUGH VOTER FRAUD to steal the election for Obama.
Romney might have won, but with Obama's Criminals running the "Justice Department", they'll never admit Romney won.

Black States = States Obama won by Voter Fraud. Click the state for more information.

Dean Chambers of UnskewedPolls.com Creates Obama Voter Fraud Map

Photo Credit: Barackofraudo.com


36 posted on 12/04/2012 6:20:59 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

BookMark

May God keep watch.
Tatt


37 posted on 12/04/2012 6:23:29 AM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
Romney 'won' a fixed primary in VA which does not have a closed primary.

That was one of the early ones.

But please listen to what i said, not the voices in your head still telling you that Romney and the Mittbots are God's own winners ~ they're not.

As a matter of principle we should have closed primaries, or use the convention system. Republicans should pick Republican candidates ~ not just the donors or Democrats out for a lark.

38 posted on 12/04/2012 6:30:42 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Yosemitest
“It is getting to point where you can’t reach back and pull another establishment Republican from the queue like we have done with Romney.”

Oh, sure they can. Suuuuure they can!!

Just sing along with me and the YachtTones and the Singing Bonesmen,

Duke, duke, duke, duke of Jeb, duke, duke,
Duke of Jeb, duke, duke
Duke of Jeb, duke, duke,
Duke of Jeb, duke, duke, ....

Pass the Merlot bottle and teenaged boys around and they can sing it all night long.

39 posted on 12/04/2012 6:30:51 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Yosemitest
Democrats have used every method known to mankind to cheat in elections. Some Republicans have done similar things.

We could line everybody up on election day and have them raise their hands. Some Democrat would still try to cheat.

40 posted on 12/04/2012 6:32:29 AM PST by muawiyah
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