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NSA agent: "Everyone under virtual surveillance!"
WorldNetDaily ^ | December 5, 2012 | staff writer

Posted on 12/05/2012 12:15:36 PM PST by wesagain

Did you ever get the feeling you were being watched?

And watched by the government?

There’s very good reason to feel that way, says a whistleblower from the National Security Agency who says everyone in the U.S. is under virtual surveillance by federal authorities.

In an interview with RT, William Binney, a former mathematician and code breaker at the NSA, says the FBI records the emails of nearly all Americans, including members of Congress, and warns that the government can use this information against anyone.

“The FBI has access to the data collected, which is basically the emails of virtually everybody in the country. And the FBI has access to it,” Binney said.

“All the congressional members are on the surveillance, too, no one is excluded. They are all included. So, yes, this can happen to anyone. If they become a target for whatever reason – they are targeted by the government, the government can go in, or the FBI, or other agencies of the government, they can go into their database, pull all that data collected on them over the years, and we analyze it all. So, we have to actively analyze everything

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 666
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To: Pontiac

E-mail is text, text compresses really nice, a little bit of petabyte storage (which I personally know of 2 governmentally related non-spooky organizations that regularly ADD petabytes to their storage capacity) goes a long way.

The real question isn’t can they gather all the data, because they can, all the data at some point goes through at least one government computer anyway (remember who built the backbone for this thing). The question is what can they do with it. The hard part is searching the data, even really good keyword data gets hard to sort through when you’ve got that much junk. In general figure most of it gets used the other way around, if they decide they want to get you personally they’ve got the data they need, but until they’re already looking at you personally the likelihood of them finding dirt on you is pretty slim.


41 posted on 12/05/2012 1:25:28 PM PST by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: discostu
E-mail is text, text compresses really nice

I send and receive a lot of big photo files and or graphic files.

They are compressible but not so much.

42 posted on 12/05/2012 1:35:38 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: wesagain

I really, honestly, totally do not care. God is bigger than this godless government and much bigger than allah, the god of those who have subverted this government.


43 posted on 12/05/2012 1:38:16 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If you're going to compare this to tapping a telephone line in the '60s you would have to give an example of recording every phone call made and putting those recordings in a database that was instantly searchable using any parameter you could think of. Names, places, times, phone numbers, keywords based on words spoken in the conversation, ... any and every characteristic of a phone call imaginable.

The Secret Sharer Is Thomas Drake an enemy of the state May 23, 2011

Even in an age in which computerized feats are commonplace, the N.S.A.’s capabilities are breathtaking. The agency reportedly has the capacity to intercept and download, every six hours, electronic communications equivalent to the contents of the Library of Congress. Three times the size of the C.I.A., and with a third of the U.S.’s entire intelligence budget, the N.S.A. has a five-thousand-acre campus at Fort Meade protected by iris scanners and facial-recognition devices. The electric bill there is said to surpass seventy million dollars a year.

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In the late nineties, Binney estimated that there were some two and a half billion phones in the world and one and a half billion I.P. addresses. Approximately twenty terabytes of unique information passed around the world every minute. Binney started assembling a system that could trap and map all of it. “I wanted to graph the world,” Binney said. “People said, ‘You can’t do this—the possibilities are infinite.’ ” But he argued that “at any given point in time the number of atoms in the universe is big, but it’s finite.”

As Binney imagined it, ThinThread would correlate data from financial transactions, travel records, Web searches, G.P.S. equipment, and any other “attributes” that an analyst might find useful in pinpointing “the bad guys.” By 2000, Binney, using fibre optics, had set up a computer network that could chart relationships among people in real time. It also turned the N.S.A.’s data-collection paradigm upside down. Instead of vacuuming up information around the world and then sending it all back to headquarters for analysis, ThinThread processed information as it was collected—discarding useless information on the spot and avoiding the overload problem that plagued centralized systems. Binney says, “The beauty of it is that it was open-ended, so it could keep expanding.”

Pilot tests of ThinThread proved almost too successful, according to a former intelligence expert who analyzed it. “It was nearly perfect,” the official says. “But it processed such a large amount of data that it picked up more Americans than the other systems.” Though ThinThread was intended to intercept foreign communications, it continued documenting signals when a trail crossed into the U.S. This was a big problem: federal law forbade the monitoring of domestic communications without a court warrant. And a warrant couldn’t be issued without probable cause and a known suspect. In order to comply with the law, Binney installed privacy controls and added an “anonymizing feature,” so that all American communications would be encrypted until a warrant was issued. The system would indicate when a pattern looked suspicious enough to justify a warrant.


44 posted on 12/05/2012 1:39:44 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: wesagain
Here's a good synopsis: Daily Reckoning
45 posted on 12/05/2012 1:42:08 PM PST by crosshairs (Hurricane Barry is 1000 times more destructive than Hurricane Sandy.)
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To: F15Eagle

This is probably not much more upbeat than your take on this BUT 666 was the number of talons of silver Solomon taxed the Jews after people after he ‘went rouge’ on God.

This represented a HUGE increase in taxes.

So an alternate interpretation would be the “Antichrist will raise taxes on his people to make it a huge burden on them”.


46 posted on 12/05/2012 1:42:36 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: Pontiac

That’s you. 99% of the e-mail is text, and small amounts of text at that, most compression can shrink pure text by as much as 40%. All the e-mails a person sends in a week can be stored in a couple of KB, that’s a 10 to the third measurement, PB storage is a 10 to the 15 measurement. 5 years ago Teradata launched Teradata 12, 50 PB of compressed data. That’s a purchasable tool. And it’s 5 years old, they’re up to Teradata 14 now.

All of our data is storable within commercially available systems. Let’s not even get into secret stuff the government is often claimed to have access to.


47 posted on 12/05/2012 1:48:04 PM PST by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: F15Eagle

When you see these things come to pass, look up and know that your salvation is at hand.


48 posted on 12/05/2012 1:52:22 PM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - V. Lenin)
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To: wesagain

So if the goivernment already has this all encompassing snooping capability, why would they want to implement laws that increase government intrusion and control? Increasing government intrusion and control would discourage the use of e-mails and the internet (especially among people of potential interest to the government), thus reducing the amount of information that could be gathered.


49 posted on 12/05/2012 1:53:18 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: wesagain

Carnivore and Echelon and others have been around a while...


50 posted on 12/05/2012 1:53:18 PM PST by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: wesagain
WHO THE HELL IS THE GOVERNMENT?

They are the enemy.

51 posted on 12/05/2012 1:54:06 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Pontiac

They don’t. Every enail is not forwarded to the feds or intercepted by the feds. They get access when they want/need it and there is a process. But some believe this sort of stuff.


52 posted on 12/05/2012 1:59:51 PM PST by plain talk
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To: unixfox

I had a sneaky suspicion years ago that the “Patriot” act wasn’t passed just to go after pesky muslims - it was meant to eventually round up conservatives, and anyone who would seek to defend the constitution against it’s enemies domestically.

When we give Fed enforcement more power (even our own side) we are giving them the power to eventually crush us. We must stop being so dumb about this!


53 posted on 12/05/2012 2:14:41 PM PST by LibertyLA (fighting libtards and other giant government enablers!)
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To: Pontiac

The NSA’s new Bluffdale “Stellar Wind” facility has some amazing storage numbers; none of which I can wrap my calculator around; it melted.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/new-details-on-nsas-new-spy-center-and-secrets-from-domestic-eavesdropping-operation-stellar-wind/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yottabyte

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exabyte


54 posted on 12/05/2012 2:24:26 PM PST by carriage_hill (Don't whiz on the electric fence. Awwwww-yeah!)
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To: wesagain
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55 posted on 12/05/2012 2:52:10 PM PST by pilipo (GOP=Gutless Old Party)
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To: Pontiac

All data will be stored in the servers and buffers at the Utah facility until the Ministry of Truth building is completed. Then we can move into “the future” where George Orwell said “picture a jack-boot stomping on a face....forever”.

The time of Obama has arrived.


56 posted on 12/05/2012 2:58:13 PM PST by Rapscallion ( OBAMA: You own it now. See if you can govern it.)
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To: Hang'emAll
I don't think POI is too far into the future.

I enjoy the use of the "target" frames drawn around "objects" the surveillance system is monitoring.

It's quite similar to some (civilian) vehicle based systems that track surrounding vehicles, roads and pedestrians (aka "targets") that I used to get to play with at work. We logged weeks and weeks of real world driving to use in testing system enhancements before release to actual testing.

There's a lot of weird stuff that goes on in the world when you review the data in detail later.

Not much privacy in the indefinite future.

57 posted on 12/05/2012 3:05:28 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Jack Black

Nothing to see here, so just move along.......


58 posted on 12/05/2012 4:03:12 PM PST by stockpirate (Democrrats stole the election via fraud, we will never have a free election again.)
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To: wesagain

Oh, goody. Another really scarey article from WorldNutDaily so FR surrender monkeys can start a white flag parade to tell us that we’re all doomed and we need to get on our knees to get fitted for chains.


60 posted on 12/05/2012 4:13:40 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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