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A Lost Civilization
New York Times ^ | December 8, 2012 | MAUREEN DOWD

Posted on 12/10/2012 7:44:36 AM PST by Seizethecarp

Instead of smallpox, plagues, drought and Conquistadors, the Republican decline will be traced to a stubborn refusal to adapt to a world where poor people and sick people and black people and brown people and female people and gay people count.

As the historian Will Durant observed, “A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within.”

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To: Seizethecarp
Instead of smallpox, plagues, drought and Conquistadors, the Republican decline will be traced to a stubborn refusal to adapt to a world where poor people and sick people and black people and brown people and female people and gay people count. As the historian Will Durant observed, "A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within."

Maureen, Maureen, Maureen..., there are people from each of these groups in the Republican party. And they came to the Republican party in part because we didn't single them out as in need of special attention.

These are not mentally deficient people here. These are people who are self-starters, and hard workers. They don't need anyone to kiss their ass. They provide for themselves, and think everyone should.

Now you sit down Maureen, take a few deep breaths, and try to gather your faculties together enough to grasp this.

21 posted on 12/10/2012 8:37:39 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and over 60 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: Seizethecarp
refusal to adapt to a world where poor people and sick people and black people and brown people and female people and gay people tribalism counts.

Fixed.

22 posted on 12/10/2012 8:40:33 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: kreitzer

lol, in response to my own comment; decided to read article and her martial imagery celebrating Hillary wiping us out should be taken at face value; what wakes people up like Dowd, Holder, Jarrett, etc. to get out of bed in the morning is a genocidal hatred of white Christians.


23 posted on 12/10/2012 8:45:52 AM PST by kreitzer
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To: Seizethecarp
...the Republican decline will be traced to a stubborn refusal to adapt to a world where poor people and sick people and black people and brown people and female people and gay people count.

Never in my life have I heard a Republican state that his policies were just for me, a Caucasian male. I have heard them present ideas, but those ideas appealed to anyone who wanted a job, and needed to provide for their family.

Which of the above groups does Maureen think Republican politicians single out when they present sound policy? If they're advocating strong defense, is that at the expense of women? No, it's actually for women too. When a Republican advocates for less regulation so there will be more jobs, is that to the exclusion of businesses that would hire Blacks? When a Republican advocates better schools, is that to the exclusion of schools with homosexuals in them?

Maureen, you're such a dumb ass. You should be heralding the fact that Republicans see everyone as equal. Instead you're trashing the party for not seeing everyone different.

You're a loser Maureen.

24 posted on 12/10/2012 8:46:34 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and over 60 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: Lion Den Dan

Ditto: I wonder what would happen if all the money donated to charitable causes were withheld (no more charity)and all
those who volunteer for various causes, stopped volunteering, could the government possibly fill the gap that would be created if this were to happen? I have no way to prove this but I would theorize that all charitable donations and all volunteerism would equal the national budget. Can you imagine the productivity of the nation when you consider these two elements along with the taxation we endure. I wonder if increased taxation will, in any way have an adverse effect on charity and volunteerism? The law of unintended consequences may be hard at work here. Who knows?


25 posted on 12/10/2012 8:52:52 AM PST by greyfox (If I were a Democrat I'd be pushing for the fairness doctrine too.)
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To: Seizethecarp

What people have to keep in mind about Maureen Dowd is that she’s just the latest in a long line of radical feminist scribblers who were only hired because they were wacky, leftist females. Like the moron before her, Anna Quindlen, Dowd is just another snarky, rad-feminist ideologue who quite unable to compose a coherent sentence. She doesn’t understand the country she was born in, and she never will.


26 posted on 12/10/2012 8:53:00 AM PST by driftless2
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To: Seizethecarp

I’m sure the suck-ups at the New York Times would tell Democrats they needed to become more like Republicans when they lose an election. Well, not really... it’s not that the MSM is a biased hateful knee jerk liberal elite group that’s a ‘blame whitey firster’ - nope it’s that they have a double standard and they’re braindead.


27 posted on 12/10/2012 8:55:02 AM PST by GOPJ (Obama's team - a 'blame whitey firster' group....)
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To: Seizethecarp

People counting is one thing. People counting your money in their pockets is another.


28 posted on 12/10/2012 8:56:23 AM PST by Anima Mundi (Envy is just passive, lazy greed.)
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To: Mr. K
"a stubborn refusal to adapt to a world where poor people and sick people and black people and brown people and female people and gay people count".....

That is the most ignorant statement I have ever heard, yet it also has the element of truth in it. She is SADLY projecting the truth that the MAKERS are spitefully not going to produce income or children to fulfill their Utopian dreams, and there is nothing they can do about it.

My grandchildren (the Makers) do not want to have children, and they are not alone in this. For reasons other than economic as well.

29 posted on 12/10/2012 8:58:10 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Seizethecarp

“black people and brown people and female people and gay people count.”

Are we missing anyone? Do wite men count?


30 posted on 12/10/2012 9:00:16 AM PST by BO Stinkss
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To: Seizethecarp

“black people and brown people and female people and gay people count.”

Are we missing anyone? Don’t white men count?


31 posted on 12/10/2012 9:00:42 AM PST by BO Stinkss
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To: Seizethecarp
...the Republican decline will be traced to a stubborn refusal to adapt to a world where poor people and sick people and black people and brown people and female people and gay people count.

I live in this culture - Dowd has listed the ONLY people who 'count' to the MSM... I'd like to know about the 'others' - the ones who don't count to the MSM...

32 posted on 12/10/2012 9:06:48 AM PST by GOPJ (Obama's team - a 'blame whitey firster' group....)
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To: Lion Den Dan
but that does not mean they have rights to what I produce."""""........

That is precisely why she is so angry, she believes they do and you/we are just being spiteful by not playing along.

Know what? The way this article is written, I have to believe they know there is a silent protest going on right now.

That protest is more and more American refusing to work harder, more and more refusing to have more children for their benefit. They too see the writing on the wall. I love it and we seem to be in their face for once, they can have the Crumbs of what we leave behind.

This article tells me they are scared of what they PRODUCED. rofl. I plan to be more spiteful in the future.

33 posted on 12/10/2012 9:07:21 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Seizethecarp
Genesis 13:13

Now the people of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20

Then the LORD said, “The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous

Genesis 19:24

Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the LORD out of the heavens.

Deuteronomy 29:23

The whole land will be a burning waste of salt and sulfur—nothing planted, nothing sprouting, no vegetation growing on it. It will be like the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, Admah and Zeboyim, which the LORD overthrew in fierce anger.

Isaiah 1:10

Hear the word of the LORD, you rulers of Sodom; listen to the instruction of our God, you people of Gomorrah!

Jude 1:7

In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.

Revelation 11:8

Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great city—which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt—where also their Lord was crucified.

34 posted on 12/10/2012 9:08:45 AM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

These marxists never believed any of that “content of your character” stuff. It was just a lie they were selling to white folks. Now that people of European origin proudly stand up and parrot that lie 24 hours a day they are laughing. They never intended to hold hands and sing in harmony around the world. They just wanted to take what white men built. Continuing to throw their old lies back in their face means nothing to them at this point.


35 posted on 12/10/2012 9:09:08 AM PST by The Toll
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To: greyfox
I have no way to prove this but I would theorize that all charitable donations and all volunteerism would equal the national budget.

I can't prove it either, but I can disprove it.

"Charitable contributions by individuals, foundations, bequests, and corporations reached $298.42 billion in 2011"

That's a lot of money, but it's less than half of the annual entitlement budget and it covers a much wider set of issues than the entitlement budget. Basically, if the charitable sector dried up, it would be painful, but the pain would probably be highly localized and simply result in a call for an increase in government support.

36 posted on 12/10/2012 9:12:16 AM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: Mr. K

She is right.

We lost the Republic and now have a Democracy. That means the majority can now vote themselves money from the public trough, and their elected officials will do everything in their power to keep those troughs filled.

And for some reason the stupid b!+c# is glad of it.


37 posted on 12/10/2012 9:14:44 AM PST by Little Ray (Get back to work. Your urban masters need their EBTs refilled.)
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To: Seizethecarp

Given the choice between living in Democrat dominated states (California or Illinois, for example) and ones where Republicans are in charge, we can see that the financial, criminal, social, educational, and any other category where government is involved are always worse where Democrats rule. Democrats and dysfunction go together like rum and coke.


38 posted on 12/10/2012 9:16:30 AM PST by elhombrelibre
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To: Seizethecarp

Uptight white guys should decide to stop pulling people like her out of burning buildings. I think she would look nice in a burqha. Why should we lift a finger to save her from her wishes.


39 posted on 12/10/2012 9:20:20 AM PST by The Toll
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To: Seizethecarp

America’s tipping point into the abyss can be traced to the point when the moochers, looters and inner city tribal parasites outnumbered the producers. The Republicans lost because you cannot beat Santa Claus.


40 posted on 12/10/2012 9:24:11 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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