Skip to comments.Dean Exposes Obama's Need For Middle Class Tax Hike
Posted on 12/10/2012 7:52:59 AM PST by KeyLargo
Dean Exposes Obama's Need For Middle Class Tax Hike
Posted 12/06/2012 06:52 PM ET
Taxes: The president says all he wants is for "the wealthiest Americans to pay a little more." But far-left Howard Dean just reminded us Obama wants a lot more from all taxpayers.
Interviewed by MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell on Wednesday, the ex-Vermont governor and 2004 Democratic presidential candidate shocked many with comments that really should have shocked no one.
"This is, initially, gonna seem like heresy from a progressive," Dean said. "The truth is, everybody needs to pay more taxes, not just the rich. That's a good start, but we're not gonna get out of this deficit problem unless we raise taxes across the board."
Dean added, "I actually have mixed feelings about striking a deal where the rich folks pay more taxes," preferring to go over the cliff at the end of the year.
Spending cuts were Dean's chief concern, but selectively so. Pining for Pentagon cuts, Dean had this sneer for the military: "They just ordered new uniforms for their chauffeurs for the top brass."
Adding her intellectual weight on O'Donnell's program was MSNBC commentator Krystal Ball (her real name), whose 15 minutes of infamy came in 2010.
That's when sexually-explicit photos of her surfaced during her far-left Democratic campaign for a redder-than-red Virginia congressional seat, in which she picked up just 35% of the vote.
According to Krystal's crystal ball, "We probably will have to raise taxes on a lot of people."
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My attitude is that if the economys good for folks from the bottom up, its going be good for everybody. If youve got a plumbing business, youre gonna be better off if youve got a whole bunch of customers who can afford to hire you, and right now everybodys so pinched that business is bad for everybody, and I think when you spread the wealth around, its good for everybody."
Doubling Down ... Obama aiming to tax middle class, too
by Kathleen Parker
12.10.12 - 01:00 am
And just wait until there is FORCED LABOR CAMPS! (another wonderful socialist program)
They can’t pay half the people to sit around doing nothing forever, can they?
We're on the wrong side of the Laffer Curve. Cutting tax rates would allow the economy to grow, and tax revenues would inevitably increase. Too bad Republicans don't understand this either.
Say what you will about Screamin’ Howie Dean, he is one of the very few Democrats who, in an unguarded moment, will blurt out the truth.
Gosh didn't see that one coming.
About 40 million Americans are about to get a remedial lesson in the leftwing's envy politics.
A progressive intellectual's job, his burden, his debt to society, is to sit around drinking excellent beverages and thinking up good things other people can be made to do under the lash.
That's why they couldn't nominate him.
The PRC all agree, the one essential skill of governance is the ability to lie .... smoothly, effectively, and with convincing sincerity.
I’ve said more than once to my friends and acquaintances during this debate, “when they figure out that taxing the rich alone won’t come close to solving this financial dilemma, they’ll work their way down to the middle class. They say the rich have set the precedent, but it’s time now for ALL to sacrifice.”
obama lied about the idea of ‘fair’ as well, he wants control...fairness means nothing...higher rates mean more control...that is what they want.
Obumbles is on the wrong side of the Bell Curve too.
“That’s a good start, but we’re not gonna get out of this deficit problem unless we raise taxes across the board.”
Ever notice the solution is rarely to cut taxes?
It all depends on whose wealth your spreading around.
Severely cut entitlements/benefits to the bone and let the States figure out their own system of “charity” (Which the majority, even those who say they are for limiting government, lol, are against)
Infinite QEs coupled with spending binges that will eventually make currency meaningless (The Zimbabwe model)
Huge across the board tax increases for everyone, (A lot of productive citizens are currently being ripped off by the income tax/AMT) including welfare/food stamp recipients. Since the welfare recipients understand the phrase "cutting benefits", backdoor the system/recipients with large perpetual tax increase based on the amount of dependents. Of course you need to start slowly (Frog in the boiling pot). Those who do not work, call it the “entitlement tax” and those who do work and receive federal benefits, call it “the serfdom tax”. We all need to sacrifice, lol.
It’s obvious obama wants to destroy this nation and we know why. But why does Reid, Pelosi and the rest of the liberals want to destroy it?
The fiscal cliff is really the “conservative cliff.” Obama and the Dems get higher taxes for everyone *and* defense spending cuts. They get bigger government and government more biased toward entitlement spending. Straight Euro socialism. It’s exactly what they want and the Dems don’t even have to go on record voting for it.
Its inconsequential who’s taxed. W/o real substantive spending cuts no amount of tax revenue is going to help.
And collectively the "middle class" makes more money....than the 2%.
Anyone that pays attention...knows what's coming. Who's forgotten Billy Jeff Rapist....telling American's he never worked harder...but he's just going to have to tax the middle class!!
Good Gawd Almighty!!
Oh, I completely agree. There seems to be an argument to tax for the sake of taxing. Why hasn't anyone asked the question, what is the goal of our government, with all these new tax proposals? Is it strictly to pay down our debts, or is it to fund lots of new government spending ideas?
To your point, taxes alone will do nothing to bring down deficits without spending cuts. Without a negative slope on the budgets, we'll never eliminate our debts. In fact, we may not be able to get there anyway, paying all the interest owed.
IIRC Barry has already said the new monies will be used to spend more not pay anything off. I believe I have that correct. So, that much we know. Even so the the magnitude of increases (if Barry has his way) will be much more than taxes alone can pay for. This means more borrowing which implies an interest payment as well. If they plan to print their way to ‘prosperity’ that means (hyper?) inflation. Its hard to see a happy ending.
I agree about the spending question. It seems pretty basic to the debate. OTOH I think the pols understand that to be effective the Entitled Classes/elderly are going to take a big hit. I dont think most older folks could bear it and the Entitled Classes would riot.
I think the only way Barry could work things out is by nationalizing large chunks of the economy. For instance the energy sectors (oil, coal, gas) most of which he’d ship to China.
Even by doing that, how would we ever get back the true value to our country? How would we know if it was worth it? Washington isn't dealing with numbers you, I, or any private accountant would understand. No one can grasp the real value of unfunded liabilities our government owes, or the assumptions they're making for future revenue streams.
It boggles my mind that there are people hell-bent on spending any new revenues, rather than paying down debt. It truly is like a drunken sailor on liberty.
Survey: Small biz owners grew more pessimistic in November after election, Superstorm Sandy
Published December 11, 2012
| Associated Press
NEW YORK Small business owners grew more pessimistic in November after the presidential election and Superstorm Sandy, according to a survey released Tuesday.
The National Federation of Independent Business said its index of small-business optimism dropped 5.6 points last month to 87.5. The index was compiled from a survey of 733 NFIB members taken throughout November.
NFIB Chief Economist William Dunkelberg said the biggest drag on the index was owners’ expectation that business conditions will be worse six months from now. The number of owners expecting better times ahead fell 37 points. Nearly half the owners surveyed are now pessimistic about the future.
Nearly a quarter of the owners said poor sales were their biggest problem.
Dunkelberg said owners in the states hit by Sandy were slightly more pessimistic than in the rest of the country. A greater number of owners in storm-battered states said they planned to cut their payrolls not surprising considering that many businesses hit hard by the Oct. 29 storm are still unable to open.
Dunkelberg said the survey points to the election results as the biggest factor in owners’ darker mood.