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1 posted on 12/11/2012 3:06:18 PM PST by rellimpank
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The next battle will be against the onerous requirements for obtaining a permit, including costs, waiting periods, training, discretionary standards of the bureaucrats granting the permits, ammunition expense, requirements for background checks anew for every purchase, even if one was done for the permit, restrictions on where to carry, what day to carry, how many to carry, taxes on weapons and ammunition, restrictions on dealers, times of the day, method of concealment, caliber, barrel length, magazine capacity, and of course, political affiliation...

The battle is not yet won, but it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning...


2 posted on 12/11/2012 3:13:50 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Lurker

Ka Ping !


3 posted on 12/11/2012 3:16:12 PM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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The comments from the anti-self defense cult on that thread are awful, bunch of manginas having an upset cow fit, stamping their hooves in disaproval.


4 posted on 12/11/2012 3:20:10 PM PST by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: rellimpank

The decision in this case is a joy to read. Judge Postner demolishes every argument Lisa Madigan made and showed her to be the empty suit incompetent that she is.

The lower Court was ordered to find the Illinois statutes un-Constitutional, no ifs, ands, or buts. If the Legislature doesn’t act in 180 days there will be essentially NO restrictions on carrying a firearm in the State of Illnois. It would be true Constitutional carry.

So watch for the Illinois General Assembly to move at lightning speed on this. And Clueless Quinn will have to sign almost anything the send him.

In the immortal words of Flounder in Animal House: “oh boy, this is GREAT,”

L


5 posted on 12/11/2012 3:23:21 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: rellimpank

As far as I know you won’t get a concealed carry in NY no matter how nicely you ask.


7 posted on 12/11/2012 3:32:28 PM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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They will decide that you can never tell how a person will turn out or what he will do. So, you can apply for a permit pay the $1,500 applicaion fee and, if you never commit a crime, you will be issued that permit 7 days after your death as certified by a licensed, union health care professional.


13 posted on 12/11/2012 4:17:45 PM PST by Random Access
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When I read about this decision, my mind immediately went to: Or what? Did they suspend the striking down of all concealed carry laws in Illinois for 180 days to give the legislature a chance to replace it with something that is compatible with the constitution, or is it yet another one of those ‘we might be forced to’ type situations, like what Romney disastrously caved to (and ultimately cost him the presidency, in my opinion) in Massachusetts?

Somehow, I doubt the 7th is gutsy enough to give the remedy the plaintiffs desired, which was striking down all unconstitutional laws, and merely threatens action if the legislature doesn't act.

Which of course, means we're talking Washington DC all over again - new laws that are almost impossible to accomplish, but might just squeak across the line of not inciting the 7th into outright action.

Message to the courts: If a law is unconstitutional, your SOLE action is to STRIKE THE UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAW! You have NO POWER to compel legislatures to make laws you like, only to strike down the laws they made.

You can bet that the legislature would be spurred into action if the court had actually done their job and simply made concealed carry a right until the state got around to bothering to regulate it.

14 posted on 12/11/2012 4:18:57 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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This is a horrific message that the courts sent to the elite ruling class in Illinois. These commie slugs are terrified by citizens owning weapons. They saw what happened in Libya in 2011.

I know some people here hate Libya, but, boy-oh-boy, did the Libyan patriots send a message to elitist Nazis and fascists around the world. I was working with an Israeli company as a contractor when TSHF in Libya.

Nearly 70% of the army deserted after Kaddhafi ordered the Libyan army to kill Libyans. They headed home to their provinces to protect their families, taking their weapons with them. So, Kaddhafi ordered his southern mercenaries from Africa to kill the Libyan people. The Libyans exploded in rage.

Kaddhafi’s bureaucrats were shot dead in the streets. The mercenaries were hanged from lampposts across the country. The head of the Libyan army was dragged into the town square and had his brains blown out. Kaddhafi’s so-called elitist officers were hunted down and executed. Kaddhafi himself died spread-eagled on the hood of a SUV, shot by a militia member using Kaddhafi’s gold-plated semi-auto that he took from Kaddhafi’s holster.

American fascists and communists fear armed Americans because what happened in Kaddhafi’s totalitarian state could happen here.

Hanging from a lamppost does not get one a favorable mention in history books.


15 posted on 12/11/2012 4:48:13 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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Our SAS Chicago coordinator worked long and hard. She was relentless.
16 posted on 12/11/2012 4:57:32 PM PST by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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This requirement doesn’t mean that Illinois will now be a ‘shall-issue’ state, does it?

What’s to keep them from making the requirements so onerous that hardly anyone can get a permit?


17 posted on 12/11/2012 5:19:30 PM PST by webstersII
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“There is a strong anti-gun culture in Illinois, particularly in Chicago...”

Hard to tell with the city’s crime statistics. Their laws make only the law-abiding vulnerable.


22 posted on 12/11/2012 6:37:56 PM PST by EDINVA
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