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DOE: School Suspensions of Boys, Blacks, Disabled May Violate Civil Rights Laws
CNS News ^ | 12/13/2012

Posted on 12/13/2012 3:24:45 PM PST by Altura Ct.

“Students of color, students with disabilities and male students” are suspended at a disproportionate rate to their peers, in “potential violation of civil rights laws,” an official from the U.S. Department of Education said at a congressional hearing Wednesday on the so-called school-to-prison pipeline.

“We are alarmed by the disparities in disciplinary sanctions, particularly for students of color, students with disabilities, and male students,” said Deborah Delisle, assistant secretary for the Office of Elementary and Secondary Education at the Education Department.

In written testimony, Delisle said such disparities are a “potential violation of civil rights laws.”

“When African-American students are more than 3 ½ times as likely to be suspended or expelled as their white peers, or students with disabilities are more than twice as likely to receive out-of-school suspensions as their non-disabled peers, as they are today--it raises substantial concerns,” Delisle told the Senate Judiciary Committee.

“These concerns are reflected in our department’s enforcement efforts and in the stories we’ve heard from the field, which demonstrate too often that students face disciplinary actions on the basis of their race,” she said.

For example, Delisle noted that an African-American student in kindergarten was suspended for five days for setting off a fire alarm while a white student in 9th grade in the same district was suspended for one day for doing the same thing.

Rep. Danny Davis (D-Ill.), a member of the Congressional Black Caucus, said at the hearing that he and the CBC have “advocated vigorously for over a decade that the federal government should lead the effort to address the over-disciplining of youth--a key factor involved in the educational crisis of African-Americans and especially African-American men.”

“I am much more likely to be suspended, not just because I am male or just because I am African-American, but because I am an African-American male,” said Davis.

“We must focus on the early years as well. It is unacceptable that African-American male preschoolers are expelled at almost nine times the rate of African-American girls with white preschool boys being expelled at almost four times the rate of their female peers,” Davis added.

Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Mich.) also cited statistics on the disparities in discipline in the nation’s schools. He said African-Americans are three times more likely to be suspended and four times more likely to be expelled than their white peers. Also, more than 70 percent of students arrested in schools are African-American or Latino.

He said disparities also exist with students identified as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender.

“What’s more, the disparities extend beyond race," said Durbin. "Nationally, students with disabilities are suspended at more than twice the rate of students without disabilities, and gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender youth are more likely to be disciplined and arrested than their peers."

“Suspensions, expulsions, and in-school arrests lead to kids being out of the classroom and a troubling increase in the number of people in the juvenile justice system,” Durbin said.

“This school-to-prison pipeline has moved scores of young people from classrooms to courtroom. A schoolyard fight that used to warrant a trip to the principal’s office can now lead to a trip to the booking station and a judge,” Durbin said.

“Sadly, there are schools that look more like prison than places for children to learn and grow. Students pass through metal detectors, and police roam the halls. Suspensions, expulsions, and in-school arrests lead to kids being out of the classroom and a troubling increase in the number of people in the juvenile justice system,” Durbin added.

To make sure all students are “treated equitably as a nation,” Delisle called for “a multi-prong strategy that encourages educators to pro-actively monitor their discipline practices for disproportionality, assess for root causes where disproportionality exists, and engage in a broad-based community effort to develop an action plan to root out discrimination in the administration of discipline.”


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1 posted on 12/13/2012 3:24:49 PM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: Altura Ct.

Gangstas are a protected class now?


2 posted on 12/13/2012 3:27:58 PM PST by moovova
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To: Altura Ct.

Accountability is as “last century” as the Law,
justice, and the US Constitution.


3 posted on 12/13/2012 3:28:06 PM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Altura Ct.

Maybe we should ship them all back to Africa where this is no school and they can just hang with the tribe and do nothing all day.


4 posted on 12/13/2012 3:28:58 PM PST by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: Altura Ct.

Maybe we should ship them all back to Africa where this is no school and they can just hang with the tribe and do nothing all day.


5 posted on 12/13/2012 3:31:33 PM PST by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: Altura Ct.
Can I suggest that, with the exception of ridiculous ‘zero tolerance’ rules set by neurotic school marms (that can result in some poor kid being suspended for carrying nail clippers to class), maybe those males, blacks and ‘disabled’ (whatever the hell that means) deserved to be suspended?

Naaah.

6 posted on 12/13/2012 3:35:22 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Altura Ct.

Um, this IS sarcasm right? My world is upside down if it isn’t. Well, it’s been upside down for the last four years anyway. What’s new?


7 posted on 12/13/2012 3:38:17 PM PST by poobear (Socialism, in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: Altura Ct.
...at a congressional hearing Wednesday on the so-called school-to-prison pipeline.

That's a short segment of the fatherless birth to welfare to failed union school to gang to narcotics and alcohol addiction to juvenile justice system to abandoned school to prison system.

It's another Democratic [sic] party production.

8 posted on 12/13/2012 3:38:31 PM PST by Standing Wolf
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To: skeeter
No doubt Dick Durbin would prefer more expulsions and suspensions of white and asian kids ~ just to make it all even steven.

Here's the clue ~ the schools should NOT be expelling the kids on a pre-approved 1, 2, 3, etc. day suspension for this or that infraction.

Rather, they should institute hard core study hall with batardes in charge!

You check in in the morning and you don't check out until afternoon ~ you need something here's a plastic bottle for you! Go in that room and put it in your bag ~ cap on.

They get to do anything they want but stand up or talk.

9 posted on 12/13/2012 3:42:25 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Altura Ct.

‘—it raises substantial concerns,”

Of course. In the demented liberal mind it MUST be due to racism and not to anti-social behavior. Of course. All White people are racist and the schools are racist and the states are racist and the country is racist and the world is racist.

And liberalism is a mental disorder.


10 posted on 12/13/2012 3:42:56 PM PST by I want the USA back
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To: Altura Ct.

hmmm, go to youtube and enter something like

“chuck e cheese brawl” or “walgreens riot” or “mcdonald’s fight” and you might get a clue.


11 posted on 12/13/2012 3:43:17 PM PST by MNDude
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To: muawiyah

That’d be a fate worse than death, or at least close to, if I remember my own mindset correctly.


12 posted on 12/13/2012 3:45:50 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Altura Ct.
The stupidity of this article is striking.

For example . . . an African-American student in kindergarten was suspended for five days for setting off a fire alarm while a white student in 9th grade in the same district was suspended for one day for doing the same thing.

Without a discussion of many details, such as whether it was a first offense or repeat offense for either kid, how could an objective person evaluate whether this was appropriate?

“We must focus on the early years as well. It is unacceptable that African-American male preschoolers are expelled at almost nine times the rate of African-American girls with white preschool boys being expelled at almost four times the rate of their female peers,” Davis added.

Is it unacceptable that the expulsion rates differ, but not that the underlying rates of offenses also differ? An objective reporter would at least investigate the relative rates of offenses that lead to expulsion.

Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Mich.) . . . said African-Americans are three times more likely to be suspended and four times more likely to be expelled than their white peers. Also, more than 70 percent of students arrested in schools are African-American or Latino.

Again, what are the rates of commission for serious offenses in school, or does that detail conflict with the goals of this biased article?

He said disparities also exist with students identified as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender . . . "Nationally, students with disabilities are suspended at more than twice the rate of students without disabilities, and gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender youth are more likely to be disciplined and arrested than their peers."

He seems to be saying that disturbed kids get suspended more often without considering whether they also act out more often.

Delisle called for “a multi-prong strategy that encourages educators to pro-actively monitor their discipline practices for disproportionality, assess for root causes where disproportionality exists, and engage in a broad-based community effort to develop an action plan to root out discrimination in the administration of discipline.”

I'd rather have educators educating children, with parents the responsibility to address the root causes of their own kids misbehaving in school. I remember when parents backed the schools, at least when the school was right, and kids turned out a whole lot better back then.

13 posted on 12/13/2012 3:47:01 PM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Standing Wolf

This is why we need Fedgov out of our schools. Send Education back to the states and respectively, the people. Parents and teachers can make the most intelligent decisions regarding consequences...not a bureaucrat.


14 posted on 12/13/2012 3:48:33 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: Altura Ct.

“students with disabilities”. And what do they consider disabilities? I suspect they are not talking about deaf, blind, and wheelchair here.


15 posted on 12/13/2012 3:50:22 PM PST by MNDude
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To: moovova

You can commit a crime in public schools and never be prosecuted.


16 posted on 12/13/2012 3:52:51 PM PST by chalkfarmer
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To: Altura Ct.

The stupid just won’t stop. More evidence (as if it were needed) to abolish the Department of Education.


17 posted on 12/13/2012 3:53:50 PM PST by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got eight? [NRA Life Member])
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To: moovova

So St. Treyvon would still be alive were it not for those racist school officials who suspended him?


18 posted on 12/13/2012 3:54:36 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: Altura Ct.

Oh dear lord, here we go with the utter absurdity of claiming that disparate results are due to bias.

Here’s a radical concept: boys tend to break more rules, get into fights more often, and otherwise commit more deeds that warrant direct punishment than girls do.

It’s patently absurd to expect a demographic group known throughout history for a higher offense rate to have the same punishment rate as a group known throughout history to have a low rate of violence and a high rate of adherence to rules. Offense rate is justly tied to punishment rate - if you offend more you get punished more often and more severely.

Boys and girls are different, ladies and gentlemen. Thank god for this fact, otherwise our species wouldn’t have a future to speak of. You can’t go around expecting different behavior to produce the same results.

As far as the race issue goes, much the same could be said. Your higher arrest/suspension/punishment rate isn’t due to your dusky skin color and some violently racist police officers and/or judges, it’s due to the simple fact that you committed a goddamned crime in the first place! STOP COMMITTING CRIMES DUMBASS!

So, what would happen if we based our punishment systems on punishments meted out rather than offenses committed, be they school suspensions or criminal penalties (I bring up the criminal justice system angle because this same laughably fallacious reasoning is used by liberals trying to undermine our justice system)?

Well, in that event, you’d have to ensure that the high-rate offenders didn’t get punished more than the average person would. And, conversely, you’d have to ensure that the average person gets punished even when he or she didn’t do anything to warrant such.

If schools were penalized for suspending violent, problem youths, and were closely monitored to ensure that no group or individual faces more punishment than their demographic representation would warrant, that would mean that school administrators would either have to turn a blind eye to career-offenders in the student body, utterly ignoring behavior that deserves an escalating response, or alternatively they would have to harshly punish the well-behaving children for the slightest infraction just to ensure that they could claim they’re applying harsh penalties equally to all demographics. Most administrators would opt for a middle-ground, turning a blind eye to minor-to-moderate infractions from frequent offenders while crucifying the occasional good-little-lamb as a sacrificial offering on the altar of political correctness.

This fallacious logic, this laughable farce, is just the same old game. Liberals want a Get-Out-Of-Jail-Free card for their favorite minorities. Bonus points if they can figure out a way to stick-it to whitey while doing so.


19 posted on 12/13/2012 3:55:49 PM PST by jameslalor
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To: Altura Ct.

There is an even higher disproportionate difference in the felony arrest and conviction rate for all males between 18-35 compared to all females 18-35.

Must we arrest more females to even things up or simply let the young thugs go free or have lesser sentences compared to older lawbreakers.

Reductio ad absurdum


20 posted on 12/13/2012 3:56:35 PM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk oMnly to me.Reid)
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To: Altura Ct.
For example, Delisle noted that an African-American student in kindergarten was suspended for five days for setting off a fire alarm while a white student in 9th grade in the same district was suspended for one day for doing the same thing.

As usual liberals misidentify the problem. The problem is the 9th grader should have gotten a two week suspension because he/she knew better.

21 posted on 12/13/2012 4:02:43 PM PST by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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To: Altura Ct.
“We are alarmed by the disparities in disciplinary sanctions, particularly for students of color, students with disabilities, and male students,” said Deborah Delisle

What a racist thing to say!

22 posted on 12/13/2012 4:10:18 PM PST by TheDon (In 2012, American voters doubled down on the first affirmative action president.)
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To: skeeter

It would be horrid ~ expulsion for a couple of days AIN’T NO THANG!


23 posted on 12/13/2012 4:10:24 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: MNDude

Even there ~ deaf kids stand a pretty high chance of being murdered by school employees. I’ve known one ~


24 posted on 12/13/2012 4:13:38 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Altura Ct.

dennis prager said today that, while he usually thinks people are smaert until proven stupid, anyone with an education degree he ythinks is stupid until proven smart. and usually they won’t be proven smart.

education degrees are worthless, just another way to employ individuals to teach eduction classes because they would fail in the real world.


25 posted on 12/13/2012 4:18:03 PM PST by bravo whiskey
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To: moovova

They did this in the early 80’s. You could have a black thug who murdered someone in his neighborhood attending your school.

Misbehaving with violence was common. Beat downs, theft, and on and on. School became an even more dangerous place.

Hopefully if start this crap, they will put a nail in thecoffin of public school and we can get the power to change the system to vouchers and see a bunch of innovative and useful schools pop up.

This should have been done in the 80’s.


26 posted on 12/13/2012 4:30:45 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Altura Ct.

I’m writing this as my sophomore students are busy writing an essay about the character of Odysseus for their final. I’m so very glad I’ll be retiring soon.

Most of my students are Alaska Native. I’ll bet they’re disciplined more than the white students are. They’re also more likely to be outwardly racist, more likely to avoid schoolwork, more likely to be using tobacco, alcohol, or other drugs, and more likely to skip school. They’re more likely to miss class for a whole variety of reasons. They’re more likely to also come from homes missing one (or both) parents.

So the unequal academic outcomes that stem from all those behaviors and environments are supposed to be balanced in my classroom to reflect a racial percentage in the community. Of course, this is insanity. It’s apartheid with a happy face. It’s the segregated south as designed by northern intellectuals. It’s the scientific method and statistics as applied to utopian idealism. It’s the age-old concept of “one drop of blood” as imposed on human beings, in which kids with a white dad and a Yup’ik mom are Native, and a kid with two white parents and a Yup’ik grandparent are Native.

So here’s how it will be enforced in my classroom and school. We’ll have a new requirement to keep records of discipline and classroom management based on race and gender and sexual orientation. (God knows how the “sexual orientation” thing will work itself out.) Every time I ask a kid to spit out the gum or sit up straight or put away the headphones, I’ll be required to documentation of the action, the time, the disciplinary cause, the remediation, and, or course, the race, gender, or orientation of the student. My superintendent will produce a neat little chart at the start of the year. State officials will fret. Occasionally an angry parent will threaten a lawsuit when little Johnny pulls a knife or slashes my tires.

The end result, of course, will be that schools will proudly be able to report that the percentage of (fill in your minority) offenders disciplined is approaching equality, while the schools themselves become living hellholes.

By all means homeschool. I would love to see vouchers or complete privatization, but I don’t think I’ll live to see the day. In the meantime, I cry for the students in my room and their children.

God help us.


27 posted on 12/13/2012 4:39:38 PM PST by redpoll
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To: Altura Ct.

I’m writing this as my sophomore students are busy writing an essay about the character of Odysseus for their final. I’m so very glad I’ll be retiring soon.

Most of my students are Alaska Native. I’ll bet they’re disciplined more than the white students are. They’re also more likely to be outwardly racist, more likely to avoid schoolwork, more likely to be using tobacco, alcohol, or other drugs, and more likely to skip school. They’re more likely to miss class for a whole variety of reasons. They’re more likely to also come from homes missing one (or both) parents.

So the unequal academic outcomes that stem from all those behaviors and environments are supposed to be balanced in my classroom to reflect a racial percentage in the community. Of course, this is insanity. It’s apartheid with a happy face. It’s the segregated south as designed by northern intellectuals. It’s the scientific method and statistics as applied to utopian idealism. It’s the age-old concept of “one drop of blood” as imposed on human beings, in which kids with a white dad and a Yup’ik mom are Native, and a kid with two white parents and a Yup’ik grandparent are Native.

So here’s how it will be enforced in my classroom and school. We’ll have a new requirement to keep records of discipline and classroom management based on race and gender and sexual orientation. (God knows how the “sexual orientation” thing will work itself out.) Every time I ask a kid to spit out the gum or sit up straight or put away the headphones, I’ll be required to documentation of the action, the time, the disciplinary cause, the remediation, and, or course, the race, gender, or orientation of the student. My superintendent will produce a neat little chart at the start of the year. State officials will fret. Occasionally an angry parent will threaten a lawsuit when little Johnny pulls a knife or slashes my tires.

The end result, of course, will be that schools will proudly be able to report that the percentage of (fill in your minority) offenders disciplined is approaching equality, while the schools themselves become living hellholes.

By all means homeschool. I would love to see vouchers or complete privatization, but I don’t think I’ll live to see the day. In the meantime, I cry for the students in my room and their children.

God help us.


28 posted on 12/13/2012 4:40:24 PM PST by redpoll
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To: moovova

No gangsta left behind. Thank you, George Bush!


29 posted on 12/13/2012 4:45:45 PM PST by heye2monn (A)
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To: Altura Ct.

Again with the poor African-American BS.

If those kids behaved themselves they wouldn’t get suspended, but a-holes like this want to punish white kids for minor infractions to keep the stats looking good,

What an idiot.


31 posted on 12/13/2012 5:34:56 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Altura Ct.

Bookmark for later abuse.


32 posted on 12/13/2012 5:44:31 PM PST by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
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To: Altura Ct.

Uhmmmmmm......I know this is probably a waste of bandwidth; but consider this if you please.

For these poor, discriminated-against, disadvantaged segments of our society to continue to exist; there must be a corresponding or greater number of responsible, law-abiding and ethical persons willing to follow the rules of
civilized society, to work, to produce and contribute to that society.

In short, most of you who support Communist/Marxist, Liberal Progressive “tolerance” of what has always been intolerable in humankind( and instinctively in the animal kingdom) are doomed. You will perish simply because of your lack of ability to produce progeny that can sustain themselves. You exist today precisely because of people who aren’t like you and don’t live according to your ideology. When those people are gone or refuse to sustain you any longer; you will adopt their ethics and principles or else starve.

Keep in mind that the youth whose shabby morals, inability to practice self control over impulse and refusal to participate in any order of society or rule of law are your future. Do you really think any of them are going to mature into the “rich” people you are fleecing and demanding to pay their “fair share” so the voluntarily indigent can continue to collect their stipend? It’s not likely.

Barrack Obama loves to decry the “mess” he inherited from George W. Bush. Liberal Democrats seem to have no idea what a “mess” the perpetually dependent voting base they have created for themselves is going to make when there are no more hard-working, law-abiding Americans willing to be robbed to support it.

So go ahead and foster your “special” minorities who think they have a right to behave abominably and to take what doesn’t belong to them. They will ultimately starve but not before they turn on the government that rendered them incapable.


33 posted on 12/13/2012 5:58:06 PM PST by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: Altura Ct.
Crime and "civil" rights laws have been on a collision course for decades. Or, to rephrase, civil rights and civil laws have become not just separable, but mutually exclusive.

The obvious conclusion, is that if a large segment of society is either incapable or unwilling to conform to the rules of a civilized society, then the solution must be that the definition of crime does not apply to them.

That damned pesky 14th Amendment, again...

34 posted on 12/13/2012 9:03:50 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Union Label -- then buy something else)
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