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Manchin on gun control: 'We need action'
CNN ^ | 12/17/2012 | Ashley Killough

Posted on 12/17/2012 8:16:39 AM PST by Qbert

(CNN) – Sen. Joe Manchin, a conservative Democrat from West Virginia and "proud gun owner," said Monday he believes last week's Connecticut elementary school shooting should be the tipping point in the debate over limiting gun rights.

"I just came with my family from deer hunting. I've never had more than three shells in a clip. Sometimes you don't get more than one shot anyway at a deer," Manchin said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe." "It's common sense. It's time to move beyond rhetoric. We need to sit down and have a common sense discussion and move in a reasonable way."

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His tone sounds markedly different from one of his television ads as a Senate nominee in 2010, when he used a rifle to put a bullet through the Cap and Trade bill. He was serving as the state's governor at the time.

The senator was re-elected this year and doesn't face another election until 2016, giving him ample room to take political stances unpopular with his base.

Manchin pointed to Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California, who announced Sunday she will re-introduce an assault weapons ban when Congress reconvenes in January.

(Excerpt) Read more at politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; democrats; diannefeinstein; guncontrol; joemanchin; manchin; secondamendment; youwillnotdisarmus
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Feinswine carries a gun...you can be sure she’ll keep hers...


51 posted on 12/17/2012 8:45:12 AM PST by little-e (I'm not a racist, I hate Biden too..)
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To: Qbert
"I'm joe manchin, and all I shoot is paper".


52 posted on 12/17/2012 8:47:25 AM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: little-e

Of course....the number one tenant of liberalism.....do as I say, not as I do.

And btw.....the same liberals who are calling for higher taxes....people like Warren Buffett....are busy doing everything they can to shelter their income from higher taxes.


53 posted on 12/17/2012 8:49:39 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Qbert
conservative Democrat

Now there is an oxymoron - certainly in the 21st Century of American politics.
54 posted on 12/17/2012 8:51:55 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: sanjuanbob
Yeah, it's hard hitting.

I am way past being polite to these statist tyrannical bastards.

55 posted on 12/17/2012 8:54:30 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: matginzac

Won’t happen. Manchin is mobbed up.


56 posted on 12/17/2012 8:55:57 AM PST by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: Qbert

Manchin ran for senator as a big 2nd Amendment advocate. The guy was lying.


57 posted on 12/17/2012 8:57:23 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: DJ Taylor

U.S. Murders: All 13,636; Hands and Feet 801; Assault Rifles: less than 348
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2912115/posts

State Sen. Trotter’s Gun Not Registered, Prosecutors Say(IL)
http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20121206/chicago-citywide/state-sen-trotters-gun-not-registered-prosecutors-say-bond-court
I’ll take Dem’s seriously on gun control when they have to hang for the same crimes we do.
He should lose his job ,have a criminal record and be barred from public service


58 posted on 12/17/2012 8:57:32 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: WKUHilltopper

But isn’t that what the constitutions says right to bear arms with ‘no more than three rounds’ shal not be infringed... (sarc)


59 posted on 12/17/2012 9:00:00 AM PST by dirtymac (Now is the for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: WKUHilltopper

But isn’t that what the constitutions says right to bear arms with ‘no more than three rounds’ shall not be infringed...? Isn’t the 2nd amendment only about hunting, sport shooting, and antiques?(sarc)

The issue is, has been, and will be about mental health. No matter how they try to hide it, every liberal needs the services of a good psychiatrist.


60 posted on 12/17/2012 9:02:26 AM PST by dirtymac (Now is the for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: sickoflibs
So, lets chase this chicken around the barnyard one more time.

1. We have numerous local, state, and Federal gun control laws that are ineffective and serve as no barrier to criminal activity. TRUE.

2. There has been another mass murderer who has used guns. In this case clearly legally owned weapons. TRUE.

3. So, to prevent future such tragedies we are going to have more gun control laws. Let's run that one again! FALSE.

If you have trouble seeing where I am going please push the reset button and repeat the loop step 1 through 3 as many times as necessary.

61 posted on 12/17/2012 9:03:00 AM PST by Nip (BOHEICA and TANSTAAFL - both seem very appropriate today.)
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To: Qbert

So what does that have to do with this situation. Does he want ammo sold at the 7-11 so you can get your 3 shells? This kid TOOK HIS MOTHERS GUNS AND AMMO!


62 posted on 12/17/2012 9:03:53 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: Qbert

Boy, do I know that...
My father-in-law, a “good Catholic”, voted lib dim his whole life in RI until he got a brain tumor and voted Pub his last vote...


63 posted on 12/17/2012 9:12:36 AM PST by matginzac
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To: Nip
So, lets chase this chicken around the barnyard one more time.

Naw, let's let the Government chase the chicken. We have the Bull by the horns and the Tiger by the tail. We're busy. The Government never is busy. Besides watching them chase the chicken will be fun.

64 posted on 12/17/2012 9:19:48 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Nip
RE :”2. There has been another mass murderer who has used guns. In this case clearly legally owned weapons. TRUE.”

Here's a question.
Given that his Mom, who was the first one to get it actually noticed that her son was losing it , then why didnt she keep her guns locked up so he couldnt get them?

I can guess that she didnt realize he was capable of what he did.

I knew someone with schizophrenia many and years ago he tried going off his meds on his own and I can tell you it was lucky that his Mom (who he was living with at the time) did not have those sort of guns lying around the house.
Eventually she had to call the police because he grabbed a nife and appeared to be up to no good from his words.

65 posted on 12/17/2012 9:21:53 AM PST by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)
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To: Qbert

Screw you Joe. The 2nd Amendment isn’t about hunting.


66 posted on 12/17/2012 9:25:54 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Red Steel

"Manchin ran for senator as a big 2nd Amendment advocate. The guy was lying."

I kept warning people in 2010 that Manchin wasn't who he claimed to be, and that he shouldn't get endorsements from any pro-2A organizations. It should have been a wake-up call when he appointed a guy to replace Robert Byrd who subsequently voted to confirm vehement gun-grabber Elena Kagan to SCOTUS without lifting a finger.

67 posted on 12/17/2012 9:29:29 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Obadiah

VERY GOOD POINT!


68 posted on 12/17/2012 9:35:33 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Qbert

Maybe this will be the tipping point that leads West Virginia voters to toss this guy out the next time he’s up for re-election?


69 posted on 12/17/2012 9:39:39 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to Repeal and Replace the Republican Party)
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To: Nip

“There has been another mass murderer who has used guns. In this case clearly legally owned weapons. TRUE.”

Not entirely. The guns were legally owned by the shooter’s mother.


70 posted on 12/17/2012 9:42:28 AM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Some cultures are destined to remain stupid and we need to quit trying to uplift them.)
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To: VRW Conspirator

0bummer’s just setting-up another straw-man dumbocrap sen for AWB vote. Smoke & mirrors.


71 posted on 12/17/2012 9:47:04 AM PST by carriage_hill (Don't whiz on the electric fence. Awwwww-yeah!)
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To: Qbert
So ... all you morons at the NRA who ENDORSED this jackass ...

and all you morons at Free Republic who had the insufferable gall to tell me that endorsing a demonicRat was a good thing to do ...

How 'bout it?

You gotta just LOVE that strong second amendment supporting, pro-gun, NRA endorsed demonicRat that supports Diane Feinstein and her "reasonable" gun bans.

72 posted on 12/17/2012 9:57:00 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Qbert

Manchin is and always has been an idiot and a fake. He’s an anti through and through.


73 posted on 12/17/2012 9:58:30 AM PST by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: Qbert

Second Amendment protections were put in place so that citizens could shoot operatives of an oppressive government, not deer.


74 posted on 12/17/2012 10:02:17 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: Qbert
"Hi-capacity"?

How about all the "hi-capacity" misinformation, distortions, wild speculations, and outright lies which have been spewed endlessly as "facts" 24/7 from the media ever since these murders happened?

Can we do something about limiting these morons to "3" shots at it? Why do they need more?

When I was a kid, newspapers tried to get the truth the first time. Seldom did it take them more than "3" attempts - and this was in the days before computers and marvelous communication gear!

Tellingly, it was also in the days before huge numbers of Liberals showed up to openly crap in our national punchbowl.

75 posted on 12/17/2012 10:03:26 AM PST by Gritty (If any of the Western world is to survive, it has to find a way to turn around, to go back-Mk Steyn)
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To: BCR #226
But ... But ...

The NRA said:

“Joe Manchin is committed to protecting the Right to Keep and Bear Arms guaranteed to all Americans,” said Chris W. Cox, chairman of NRA-PVF. “His strong dedication and voting record have earned him an “A” rating from the NRA-PVF, and we proudly endorse him for re-election to the U.S. Senate.”

How can this be?

76 posted on 12/17/2012 10:07:51 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Qbert

West Virginia must be so proud.


77 posted on 12/17/2012 10:18:41 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: V_TWIN

“SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED”... and if you try it... blood will flow in the streets. America has had all we will take from despots and idiot communists.

LLS


78 posted on 12/17/2012 10:31:40 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (A child is born in Bethlehem KING of KINGS)
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To: CPT Clay
This will not sit well with West Virginians. Obama’s environmental policies are decimating the state and this type of dialog, in step with Obama and major city Democrats, will not help his reelection chances. Trouble is, WVA was in Democrat hands for so long under the Byrd machine that it will take a very high profile Republican or Independent to win a seat. Good news is that WVA consistently voted against Obama and I commend them for that.
79 posted on 12/17/2012 10:37:11 AM PST by Boomer One
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To: Qbert

FREUDIAN SLIP OF A WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING:

Did he just praise and brag about needing only 2 or three shells in order to predate, terrorize and kill unharmed (unarmed) deers???


80 posted on 12/17/2012 10:57:05 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: ArrogantBustard

The 11th amendment should be: never endorse a democrate and be very cautious about Republicans who are cheap hawks at best, surrenderists generaly and frequently RINOs who are only good if they are leftistoid antisemitic and racist.


81 posted on 12/17/2012 11:00:44 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Ratman83

This West Virginian is disgusted ... and not surprised ... and inclined to say: “See? I told you so!” to the polidiots at the NRA.


82 posted on 12/17/2012 11:03:59 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Qbert

“Manchin on gun control: ‘We need action’”

What kind of action ?
Manual?
Single-shot?
Dropping block?
Tilting block?
Falling block?
Rolling block?
Break-action?
Hinged block
Bolt action?
Repeater?
Revolver?
Lever-action?
Pump-action?
Automatic action?
Semi-automatic?
Blowback?
Blow-forward?
Recoil?


83 posted on 12/17/2012 11:05:45 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: Qbert
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84 posted on 12/17/2012 11:15:00 AM PST by MtnMan101
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To: ArrogantBustard

I understand you feelings.


85 posted on 12/17/2012 11:22:30 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: PieterCasparzen
I would like to see a file merge by county of gun murder and Obama wins 2012 vote. I suspect that the so-called blue Obama voting counties overwhelmingly outnumber the red GOP presidential voting counties for total gun murders.
86 posted on 12/17/2012 11:37:52 AM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Qbert

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv=xIJORBRpOPM

Manchin even went so far as to dramatically hand-load only one bullet into the rifle before firing it!


87 posted on 12/17/2012 11:41:37 AM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Qbert

Joe Manchin, another commie RAT who pretended to be conservative to get elected.


88 posted on 12/17/2012 11:50:36 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Qbert

Thanks for your input Joe, but the 2nd Amendment ain’t about hunting.


89 posted on 12/17/2012 11:54:53 AM PST by mykroar (BAD-ANON: One Game At A Time)
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To: Qbert

“It’s common sense. It’s time to move beyond rhetoric. We need to sit down and have a common sense discussion and move in a reasonable way.”

How is it possible to have common sense discussion with an ass h0le? First thing I think of is that the 2nd is not about hunting deer.

Untill we can get that idea out there will be no “common sence”


90 posted on 12/17/2012 12:05:15 PM PST by Big Mack (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to eat VEGETABLES!)
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To: Errant

Obama: “Hey Joe. Nice job fooling those hicks that you’re a conservative guy who’s anti-Obamacare and pro-2nd Amendment. Keep up the good work.

Manchin: Thanks Prez. Like you, I also have a “gift”.


91 posted on 12/17/2012 12:08:32 PM PST by princeofdarkness ( Nobama. No more. No way. November 2012.)
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To: VRW Conspirator

Manchin’s ACU rating was a big fat 15 in 2011. There are liberals in the Dem Party who had a higher ACU rating than Manchin. Maybe this joker was somewhat conservative as governor but definitely not as a Senator.


92 posted on 12/17/2012 12:17:56 PM PST by princeofdarkness ( Nobama. No more. No way. November 2012.)
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To: V_TWIN

Still feelin’ good about electing this schmo, West Virginia?


93 posted on 12/17/2012 12:35:55 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ArrogantBustard

As another West Virginian, I consider the NRA as a harmful political force precisely because of their endorsements of anti-gun Democrats against pro-gun Republicans, which they do because the NRA wants to be on the good side of the powerful AS IF THAT WILL EVER HELP. That’s why I will never join the NRA under current leadership. I have seen too many good pro-Constitution candidates lose to anti-gun Democrats who were stupidly endorsed by the NRA.


94 posted on 12/17/2012 12:42:02 PM PST by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Still feelin’ good about electing this schmo, West Virginia?

Still feelin' good about ENDORSING this shmo, Chris Cox and NRA/ILA?

95 posted on 12/17/2012 12:47:33 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Qbert
The senator was re-elected this year and doesn't face another election until 2016

Last I checked Senators have 6 year terms. According to wikipedia, Manchin won a full term in Nov (with 60% of the vote!)

Let's see, 2012 + 6 = 2018

Even a Democrat should be able to figure that out.
96 posted on 12/17/2012 4:42:42 PM PST by fifedom
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To: Qbert

Do something significant and meaningful with the national debt and deficit spending, Senator Foghorn.


97 posted on 12/17/2012 4:54:21 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: V_TWIN

“a conservative Democrat”
“Never heard that term before................is that even possible?”

An extinct species... Killed off by the progressives in the Democrat party.


98 posted on 12/17/2012 10:08:55 PM PST by WOSG (REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMA. He stole America’s promise!)
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To: Qbert; AuH2ORepublican; Galactic Overlord-In-Chief; MitchellC; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; NFHale; ...

Oh look it’s another NRA “A” rated “moderate” rat (D rated by the GOA) coming out for gun grabbing. Film at 11. What a joke the NRA is.

Any regrets yet, moron ticket splitters in WV? Elect Romney and this Obama nuthugger by mirror image landslides.

Capito should have run against HIM.


99 posted on 12/18/2012 12:21:09 AM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: Qbert

Recall elections for Senators? What is the law?


100 posted on 12/18/2012 6:39:33 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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