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Women Sue DPS for roadside body cavity search
myfoxdfw.com ^ | Dec 18, 2012 | Shaun Rabb

Posted on 12/19/2012 2:32:26 AM PST by tuffydoodle

Edited on 12/19/2012 4:38:53 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

DALLAS - Two women claim they were molested during a body cavity search on the side of the road. They are now suing the Texas Department of Public Safety and its officers.

Angel Hobbs, 38, and her 24-year-old niece, Ashley Hobbs, were stopped along Highway 161 in July.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: bodycavitysearch; cannabis; donutwatch; drugs; drugwar; marijuana; warondrugs; wod; wodlist; wosd
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The video on this is disgusting and so graphic they couldn't even show the whole thing on the news.
1 posted on 12/19/2012 2:32:34 AM PST by tuffydoodle
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To: tuffydoodle

Little fascists exist in pockets throughout the country. Obama means to link them all together.Thats when the real trouble will begin.And we are being pushed in that direction as a country. If you do not have a fascist authority in your face yet, do not worry, you will not be left out. The public is simply expected to submit to them.

Good Read:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html


2 posted on 12/19/2012 2:43:55 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: tuffydoodle

I bet we’ll see a lot of this once the TSA starts its roadside “services.”


3 posted on 12/19/2012 2:48:40 AM PST by OldPossum
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To: tuffydoodle

“Video shows the female officer’s hand on their breasts and down the back and front of both women’s pants.”

There could be hidden weapons stashed in places that most people wouldn’t touch - and for officer safety reasons - every part of a body must be searched - plus, marijuana has a very unique smell and these two got caught and when a low life is searched like this - it always protocol for them to file a complaint...I’m so glad I’m not in L.E. anymore due to dealing with people like this...

I wonder what the cause for complaint would be for a male subject that was obese and was wearing a BRO (http://cdn.gunaxin.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/seinfeld-bro.jpg)


4 posted on 12/19/2012 2:51:08 AM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: Candor7

Yep, one the the Justice Department’s big initiatives is making “partnerships” with state and local law enforcement agencies (especially Sheriff’s offices) to do Uncle Sam’s bidding, usually in exchange for federal “dollars” or some “cool” new surveillance or SWAT toys.


5 posted on 12/19/2012 3:13:04 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: BCW

What part of police procedure is it to grope and cavity search a female ‘suspect’ on the side of a public highway?

The pretext for the search was marijuana, not potential weapons hidden in one or both of their snatches, to be crude. Yet, when it appears the officer violates someone, it is always the threat of weapons, etc. that becomes the reason.

Were I their lawyer, I’d give this trooper a rectal exam on his documented and validated expertise at determining just how and when one determines that and what are the exact levels between transition from occasional use to daily use.

He pulled them over for littering - not terrorism.


6 posted on 12/19/2012 3:14:31 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: BCW
I for one am tired of the over-used, all encompassing excuse of "officer safety" when it comes to trumping the 4th and 5th Amusements of the U.S. Constitution.

These women were juts lucky that they didn't have a dog with them or else it'd be dead.

7 posted on 12/19/2012 3:15:27 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: BCW

Trust me, I’m glad that you’re not in law enforcement anymore, too.


8 posted on 12/19/2012 3:20:18 AM PST by PalmettoMason (South Carolinians need to start choosing a primary challenger to Nikki Haley NOW!!!!!!!)
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To: BCW
There could be hidden weapons stashed in places that most people wouldn’t touch - and for officer safety reasons - every part of a body must be searched

For the officer's safety? He hadn't made an arrest. These two weren't threatening violence on anyone. And if they were cuffed behind their backs and put in the police car, how would they retrieve those shanks? That would be quite a trick.

If you don't have evidence to arrest, then you don't have evidence to do a cavity search. Probable cause for a cavity search should be a lot higher than "I think I smell something."

Officer safety is BS, not just in this case, but in most cases. Its a catch all, just like "interfering with a police officer", to excuse all manner of bullying and petty tyranny.

9 posted on 12/19/2012 3:23:40 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: BCW; OldPossum

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc


11 posted on 12/19/2012 3:27:08 AM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: SampleMan

If you don’t have evidence to arrest, then you don’t have evidence to do a cavity search. Probable cause for a cavity search should be a lot higher than “I think I smell something.”

Officer safety is BS, not just in this case, but in most cases. Its a catch all, just like “interfering with a police officer”, to excuse all manner of bullying and petty tyranny.
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I’ve got to second the “glad you’re no longer LEO” sentiment ...


12 posted on 12/19/2012 3:30:17 AM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: tuffydoodle

Agreed!


14 posted on 12/19/2012 3:34:45 AM PST by KSCITYBOY
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To: BCW
I’m so glad I’m not in L.E. anymore

It's a relief to us all

15 posted on 12/19/2012 3:38:18 AM PST by PatHimself
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To: BCW
I’m so glad I’m not in L.E. anymore due to dealing with people like this...

yeah - real scofflaws - driving down the road - whew - I feel so much safer there are no people like them in my town - so much safer as well that LEOs would never trump up BS road stops

Trust me - Im glad youre not in law enforcement anymore as well

16 posted on 12/19/2012 3:39:02 AM PST by Revelation 911
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To: BCW

I think you stepped in it this time son.

Body Cavity search’s are not done on the side of the road.

One thing is sure, either these women are lying about the extent of the search or some Bull Dyke lady cop had a great time that day.


17 posted on 12/19/2012 3:42:47 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer

They made the claim on the dash cam video in the presence of the officers at the time. Lends credence to the complaint, imho. If false officers would have vigorously denied it, knowing there was a recording of the incident.


18 posted on 12/19/2012 3:46:15 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Venturer

The entire incident is on video.


19 posted on 12/19/2012 3:54:17 AM PST by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: BCW
low life

I'm so glad you are not in LE either.

Did you actually watch the video? A cop said this was an illegal or improper search.

We do still have the remaining scraps of a Constitution even if Little Hitlers believe that they can determine who deserves rights and who doesn't.

20 posted on 12/19/2012 3:58:20 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (The trouble with the "masses" is that they never achieve the "m")
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To: BCW
...I’m so glad I’m not in L.E. anymore ...

I too am glad you are not in law enforcement anymore.

300 Million Americans agree.

21 posted on 12/19/2012 4:10:17 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: tuffydoodle

I did not mean to infer it didn’t happen. Only that it should not have happened.

What kind of police officer with any common sense at all would stick their fingers in people on the side of the road.That’s insane.


22 posted on 12/19/2012 4:10:24 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Safetgiver

thank you - a reasoned response from law enforcement


23 posted on 12/19/2012 4:16:45 AM PST by Revelation 911
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To: Venturer
What kind of police officer with any common sense at all would stick their fingers in people on the side of the road

this nonsense should be reserved for hard drug crimes only and ONLY for perps with a history / priors to warrant it IMO

we're talking two young women with no apparent history in this case - curious if the process is followed, say, if his mom/daughter/wife were to get stopped

Its cretins like this (and their suppportive ilk ...some on this thread) which totally ruin the name of honest LEO's which respect the Bill of Rights and due process

aside, i would nt be surprised in the least to see the TSA begin doing this on a regular basis to the traveling public

24 posted on 12/19/2012 4:22:31 AM PST by Revelation 911
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To: Revelation 911

Used to be (when we were Peace Officers, not drug Enforcers)NO Bodily Intrusive Searches were allowed unless a hospital did it.


25 posted on 12/19/2012 4:23:09 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: tuffydoodle

I hope they end up with millions from their lawsuit. I have no respect for the police anymore after my young daughter was pulled over last year for not putting on a turn signal then she was arrested for suspicion of DWI and then strip searched in front of everyone men and women in the jail and humiliated while the police officers were laughing. It was a nightmare for us to try to get her out and has costed us over 11,000.00 so far and still not gone to trial.


26 posted on 12/19/2012 4:25:45 AM PST by coconut47
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To: Safetgiver

GOT to come back to REV911. He said he saw them both throw out cigarettes. Did this particular JBT gather the cigarettes up and charge them with littering? Of course not. I did. Many times. Hate litterbugs.


27 posted on 12/19/2012 4:27:32 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Safetgiver

exactly - as anything having to do with internal body issues should be- particularly females, precisely (as another posted alluded) - cross contamination between the rectum and private areas which could result in serious infection


29 posted on 12/19/2012 4:54:33 AM PST by Revelation 911
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To: Venturer

I would have to go with the latter about the dyke cop heh.


30 posted on 12/19/2012 4:56:50 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: BCW

Right, cops never lie or do anything wrong, and are better than the rest of us, even and especially when there is testimony and evidence to the contrary.

I’m guessing you agree that this woman got what she deserved:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/08/lapd-captain-reassigned-after-officers-shown-body-slamming-woman.html


31 posted on 12/19/2012 5:20:21 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: BCW

In that case, I need to go check my wife for hidden weapons.


32 posted on 12/19/2012 5:21:39 AM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a masscre at a gun show.)
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To: Safetgiver

“The case is expected to go before a grand jury.”

Next step will be a concerted campaign to discredit the grand jury if they dare to find that the cops did anything wrong.


33 posted on 12/19/2012 5:26:09 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Gaffer

“...I’d give this trooper a rectal exam...”

Best of luck with that...

THE US Supreme Court ruled on this matter - weather an infraction or a known felon - officer safety comes into play...Remember Timothy “Blew up the Federal Building” McVeigh — pulled over for a traffic violation...you assume too much in this instance - and just because some NEWS article writes about - doesn’t mean they have the facts straight — the latest school shooting has PROVEN that as each day they covered a situation they did not fully understand - but rushed to be “THE FIRST” to report it...stop getting emotional over this...wait until the situation is investigated fully.


34 posted on 12/19/2012 5:33:13 AM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: tuffydoodle

35 posted on 12/19/2012 5:36:29 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: BCW

“Best of luck with that...”

Yes, best to assume the cops acted correctly, even when and especially if video exists to the contrary.

Disparage anyone who believes otherwise, and always “wait {as long as needed} for the facts to come out” when cops act badly.

Because, you know, cops should always be treated with the utmost respect, or it’s “Fine — see how fast they come to YOUR house when you need them!”

*YAWN*


36 posted on 12/19/2012 5:41:53 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: PalmettoMason; meadsjn; Aevery_Freeman; Venturer; Revelation 911; PatHimself; SampleMan

So all of you have went through the police academy, got certified, served out in public, plus did tours over in Iraq and Afghanistan to understand the difference between a known threat and hidden one, know when there is a possible danger and when theirs not...they say a cavity search was performed on the side of the road...you weren’t there - neither was I - and yes, I’m glad I’m not in L.E. because I dealt with close minded idiots like each of you on a daily basis - and it wasn’t worth the time or money to attempt to explain unique situations to people like you - officers are tested on every response...and those of us with that experience have gone else where - and those that are getting recruited presently usually just have a high school education — that’s it...but the citizen complaints - stupid law suits - and citizens saying “I’ll give that officer a rectal exam” - resulted in those of us to leave that profession...and this is what is left! Grow up!


37 posted on 12/19/2012 5:45:33 AM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: BCW

38 posted on 12/19/2012 5:49:34 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: BCW

Yes, thank you.

Exactly my point, although not in support of your haughty statements.


39 posted on 12/19/2012 5:53:37 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: treetopsandroofs

Some folks just love the taste of jackboot leather. Their favorite fetish is polishing boot soles with their tongues. It’s related to bondage and S&M. Many of them are attracted to “government service” like Authority Man and the TSA goon above.


40 posted on 12/19/2012 5:53:54 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

They do the most damage to the “conservative” reputation.


41 posted on 12/19/2012 6:02:20 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: treetopsandroofs
And they also don't think civilians "need" semi-auto firearms.

Just the police and the military.

42 posted on 12/19/2012 6:05:18 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: tuffydoodle

Is there a link without all the BS in it? I gave up trying to watch it.


43 posted on 12/19/2012 6:11:47 AM PST by Dusty Road
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To: Travis McGee

For every one who tells us they got out because of all us stupid citizens, there are a hundred more who stay in to teach us all those much-needed lessons.

They’ll be the ones making sure the cross is sewn onto Christians’ clothing for their “safety”, and marching for Hussein, or whomever will support their quest to teach the stupid citizens right from wrong.


44 posted on 12/19/2012 6:13:33 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: AppyPappy

45 posted on 12/19/2012 6:20:43 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee; treetopsandroofs

But they believe in the Constitution and Bill of Rights. /s


46 posted on 12/19/2012 6:42:40 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: BCW; PalmettoMason; meadsjn; Aevery_Freeman; Venturer; PatHimself; SampleMan
it's completely without shock, or surprised that we find you taking a tone of self righteousness, and "i know better" attitude, belittling those that disagree with your well seasoned (albeit Constitutionally vacant) position.

For Gods sake you place yourself above the rules here that state no personal attacks....yet you can't help yourself as you know better

Again - Im thankful you are not in my locale, charged with protecting my children & wife

We are also mindful that the occupants willingly complied, lest they be maced and clubbed in the norm of un necessary escalating aggression & overwhelming response to nonsensical stops & other minor issues the public is apt to commit.....

That said, I fully expect this officer and the female officer to be found guilty of violating the occupants rights. Sadly, any legal payments will come from the local seat and not their own pockets.

The question begs...how many dogs have you shot?

47 posted on 12/19/2012 7:01:07 AM PST by Revelation 911
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To: BCW; Gaffer
stop getting emotional over this...wait until the situation is investigated fully.

Yeah! What he said! Who are you going to believe, BCW or your lying eyes? Clearly the internal investigation would show that these dangerous and uncooperative, potential felons were never cavity searched and even if they were, it was entirely appropriate as they were "civilians" and as such, should have no rights. Besides, LEO elites should not have to explain themselves to the unwashed masses so just be quiet and accept it unless you want your dog shot. Littering is a gateway crime. Before you know it, these two could go on to even worse crimes like jaywalking.

There was a time when I had nothing but respect for police. That has changed. There are too many Barney Fifes like BCW who who really think that what they do is more dangerous than say, being a roofer or a convenience store clerk or a farmer or dozens of other jobs. I do have friends that are cops but not the kind who think they are some sort of paramilitary elite.

48 posted on 12/19/2012 8:01:17 AM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: BCW
...Remember Timothy “Blew up the Federal Building” McVeigh — pulled over for a traffic violation...you assume too much in this instance - and just because some NEWS article writes about - doesn’t mean they have the facts straight...

And as far ast "facts" go, just what the heck does Timothy McVeigh have to do with this. Yes he was pulled over, etc. probably because every cop within a thousand miles was on the alert because their own, or their federal cousins, were down. It is a stretch to take littering to a full blown drug cavity search on the side of the road based on a frickin nose for "officer's safety" BS. I could believe the old "I shot the little Chihuahua because I feared for my life" excuse before this.

49 posted on 12/19/2012 8:14:11 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: BCW
those that are getting recruited presently usually just have a high school education — that’s it...

Perhaps if law enforcement had done a better job of policing themselves, it would not suffer from the utter lack of respect that it now suffers. Your knee jerk and automatic defense of the obviously indefensible is indicative of the culture of providing cover for those that don't deserve it because "they are one of our own" is the reason. Had you made a greater effort to purge your own ranks of scum through peer pressure and not support bad behavior, the profession would have far more respect today. I feel bad for the many good cops out there that are damaged by actions like these. You should too.

50 posted on 12/19/2012 8:15:33 AM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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