Skip to comments.Stop and think - and you will realise that banning guns is a waste of time
Posted on 12/23/2012 4:11:36 AM PST by expat1000
Ask yourself this. Even if you had a house full of guns and ammunition, would you then murder a close relative, shoot your way into a nearby primary school and massacre as many children as you could?
Of course you wouldnt. You would have to be mad to do such a thing, and mad in a rather special way.
And if you were mad in that way, and had no gun, you might use other weapons. There are recent instances in various parts of the world of what appear to be attempted mass murder by car, or by knife.
Take what happened just over a week ago in Chenpeng village school, Henan province, in China. Min Yongjun stabbed an elderly woman before hurting 22 children (many very badly) with a kitchen knife.
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This isn’t about thinking, this about taking our guns away
Great article: why won’t our government examine the linkage between drugs and mass murders?
I don’t understand any American wanting to take away one of the rights we have. If the 2nd amendment goes then the 1st is not far behind. This is so UNAMERICAN I can’t stand it! If anything we should get more rights. I guess the Patriot Act proves me wrong.
Ah, the Hitchens clan lives on! Thanks Peter.
Figure out where you are going to hide your guns. Don’t cooperate. Use passive resistance.
The author was speaking of Britain when he said, “Were guns restricted here because of crime? No, they were restricted because the panicky British government thought there might be a revolution.” But he could have been talking about any government, at any time.
Gun bans have NEVER been about crime. They have ALWAYS about the PTB keeping the masses at bay, to keep them under the government thumb, to keep themselves from being overthrown.
“Figure out where you are going to hide your guns. Dont cooperate. Use passive resistance.”
And then what? Just meekly submit? There is an old adage: If it is time to hide your guns, it is time to use them.
Some of it is even simpler: anarcho-tyranny. It is much easier for the goobs to go after law abiding citizens than to attempt to control (never mind disarm) violent gangs. In fact they chose to intentionally arm violent gangs so they could make an example out of straw purchases to justify going after more law abiding citizens. The gangs are first and foremost allies of the government that the politicians (e.g Bloomberg) use to justify more 2A infringements to the stupid people (e.g. many NYC voters). The gangs are used to justify extra police which are then used to infringe 4A rights.
Many times the woman was killed in public or emerging from the courthouse after the final papers were signed. I've never heard mention that any of these females were armed and managed to fire back at her attacker. The numbers of these dead women have to be in the thousands. Having a firearm on them certainly would have prevented a great many of those murders.
It may be simpler than that for now. The right of the people to keep and bear arms has the corresponding responsibility to keep (at home) and bear (in public). Since all people are in the militia, there is really no excuse no to be well equipped and well trained (= well regulated). Living up to that responsibility even with a modest firearm is the only way to prevent the mass shootings that the politicians pretend to care about. Abdicating that responsibility means we lose the right.
The joke is Fast and Furious proved that the Black Market is alive and well and is chomping at the bit for another market.
It's called totalitarianism...
The state is their "god" and gods get to control all aspects of your life since you are incapable of running your own life according to their collective mindset...in other words you are a cog in their system... removing you will help the wheels turn...
There are loads of people in government who would in heartbeat put you up against a wall and put a bullet in your brain if it helped achieve their Marxist goals...
Just look over at DU, KOS, HP...
They don't because of the 2 nd amendment...
It goes beyond that.
Its about taking away our National Identity, our Culture and how Americans view themselves.
Its about Freedom.
Right now, a band of atheist fanatics are trying to ban prayer at West Point.
Freedom of the Press no longer exists - the mainstream media reflect a monoview on every cultural and societal aspect of America.
Whether it is the First, Second, or Tenth Amendment, or any other, there are forces abroad in America which want to remake us - to make America become a clone of the degenerate western socialist states in Europe which are incapable of even protecting their own populations from an invasion of murdering, raping, Islamic fanatics bent on their destruction.
The last election was NOT a blow-out endorsement of Obama, it was a rejection of a particular candidate who was a poor, uninspiring opposition figure.
Its time for Americans to stand up an reject this Marxist and his initiatives in every way possible.
If not, your children will be growing up in a country that resembles England, Greece or Sweden and your grandchildren will be Muslim zombies.
-———this about taking our guns away-——
Which is at the root about the ideological peace and harmony Utopian dream.
Vietnam was the end of war. Peace has resulted, glorious peace. With universal peace, there is no need for defense or the implements of now gone war. Deluded little girls wear pink ribbons and peace symbols. The consider it chic to worship peace. They are destroying America
What amazes me are the liberals shouting about the need to "confiscate" weapons. That may fly in the blue states, but how are they going to get those weapons in deep red states? Door to door? Do they not realize that the same forces that they expect to confiscate out weapons are our neighbors, our friends and our families? These same morons who spout hatred and disparage our armed forces now expect them to turn on the rest of us?
I think the whole gun confiscation "lets follow the Aussie model" talk is nonsense, at least as long as Republicans are in the majority and there are more Red State Governors then Blue. Just saying that here is GA getting our guns won't be an easy task.
First, they pass a law that says certain types of firearms cannot be bought or sold or otherwise transfer ownership.
Then, they will pass a law requiring these certain firearms be registered in order to be considered legal. They may also include storage requirements and inspections by the government with large fines for minor errors.
Then, they will pass a law requiring you to turn in your legal firearms.
The Lefties are brain-addled at a minimum to even consider confiscation. I think this same demented thinking keeps them from truly considering exactly how they will do it. With other laws, the populace just obeys ... even with something as heinous as Obamacare, where we have given up control over our own bodies and are allowing the government to make the decisions about or limit the care we receive that likely will determine if we live or die, we submit and go along with it. I do believe that the Lefties think if they ban guns and “confiscate” them, that the populace will march like lemmings to the police stations and give them up.
Of course, they will be very, very wrong - the Lefties have grabbed the straw that will break the camel’s back and start CWII, in my opinion.
There are discussions now going on about reigning our 1st Amendment rights and also about confiscating 401s, pensions, etc.
I am not saying that it can not happen. I am asking how will they enforce it? Do you think all those Red State Governors are going to comply any more then liberal Governors comply with our immigration laws? Do you expect my local sheriff to show up at my house if I don't willingly turn in my weapon? If he did he would know me by name.
My only point is that there is the possible and then there is the practical. Yes, if we continue to elect liberals to national office then we eventually will lose the Supreme Court and potentially have things turn against us. Even then, while some may comply there will be many willing to die. After the second or third incident we have the makings for one significant revolt.
I could be wrong. Just saying ...
Try reverse psychology, make it a mandatory federal law that everyone must be armed 24/7, anyone resisting the law subject to federal prison.
Then see what happens.
There is some townships that actually have such laws, should be applied to more places.
Especially prescription drugs and murder.
It's no American; it's Barack Obama.
So carrying a gun 24/7 makes me Wonder Woman? How is this any different from the whacko’s mother who kept guns in the house, knowing her son was mentally ill and dangerous? I would be willing to bet that many of the victims of domestic violence have been stealthily killed with a weapon (i.e. club, axe, poison, drugs) that can not easily be traced and identify the assailant. How many women just suddenly disappear - while ex husband claims innocence or “there must have been an accident” - and then her body is found weeks later strangled, stabbed, etc? If my marriage had a history of domestic violence, #1 I would get out, and #2, until the time I leave, I would certainly NOT keep a gun in the house only to have it used on ME.
But notice how it has taken Benghazi off the radar.
Obama won re-election.
The character of America has changed.
Those with roots in freedom are being replaced with those who know nothing of our once-sacred traditions.
There will be no CW2. There aren’t enough of us left to fight.
Follow the Benjamins.
If your deranged husband wants to kill you while you’re living together, he’ll find a way...gun or no gun. I’m talking about women who have already separated from or divorced their husbands and are living apart from their exes. My wife is more than a little afraid of her first husband and is glad I’ve got a gun in the house. She even asked me about the possibility of getting one for herself. And before she met me, she was extremely anti-gun. Moreover, she’s a very small woman, and her ex would have no trouble killing her without a firearm.
You lost me - who or what are the Benjamins?
Ah got it. I must be behind in my current slang skills.
48% voted for the other guy, and a LOT didn’t bother to vote at all.
Hardly represents a majority in my book.
Yes,he won the election, but it was no blow-out endorsement and Romney was as much to blame for Obama’s victory as Obama and the left.
Look at the difference caused by decades of dumbing down our population. When trying to outlaw alcohol, keeping in mind there is no fundamental right to imbibe, elected officials went so far as to create a Constitutional Amendment. Today they’ll remove the rights to property, speech/religion/though, and self-defence/armed resistance with a simple majority vote.
There are those in government and media now that are discussing taking a way 1st Amendment rights. They want to start with Conservative talk radio and they have already taken away the rigts of those who would protest the President in his presence, of course this won’t mean anything if there is ever a Conservative or another Republican President.
You’re right, they have dumbed down the population, there are those who believe this President can do whatever he wants and he is obliging them as he has no respect for our laws and Constitution.
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