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America is now run by angry, feral adolescents fueled by hatred, jealousy and revenge
Coach Is Right ^ | December 21st, 2012 | Derek Hollenbeck

Posted on 12/23/2012 5:30:03 AM PST by IbJensen

Minority groups in America live better here than they do in other parts of the world. This is true for both Blacks and Hispanics. “Poor” in America is a description of at least lower middle class or better in many countries around the world. Yet when given a chance, these groups gladly plunged America into a dark and dangerous future to take their “revenge” against our nation.

On first glance this lust for revenge seems counterintuitive. But closer examination explains this rage. Both groups are fueled by greed hatred jealousy and a thirst for revenge stoked to a roaring flame by Barack Obama a man unconcerned with long term consequences.

Consider these points. At 14.3% Black unemployment is more than double White unemployment. At 10% Hispanic unemployment is more than 2 points higher than the national average. By no measure are either of these groups better off now than they were before Obama came along.

Yet Blacks and Hispanics ran to the polls in an orgy of hatred and revenge for the greater society to reelect “Brother Barack” who has destroyed both their secular and religious lives. Obama forced both of them to choose between him and their pastors over the issue of Gay marriage. They decided the chance for revenge he offered them was worth ignoring their religious leaders call to Biblical law. They willingly complied when Obama appealed to their seething hatred because feeding their desire for retribution is more important than anything else in their lives. They loved it when Obama publically abandoned any pretense of caring what White people thought of him or them.

A recent survey found 59% of Americans think the country is on the wrong track. This alone should have stopped Obama, yet the sheer orgasmic delight of “stickin’ to the man” rendered this fact meaningless for these groups. Certainly they participated in this survey, but alas eating the tasty meal of hatred and revenge – which Obama actually preached as a reason to vote for him – was far too satisfying to pass up.

“Getting even” for the “pains and suffering” of living in a nation still the envy of the world, was enough reason to flush America down the toilet for these people. Barack Obama has turned half of the country into feral adolescents willing to give up their freedoms and ability to think in exchange for a front row seat to the decline of a nation they have been taught to hate. They are content with a life of roaming from one “free lunch” trough to another. They will eat until their snout hits bottom then straighten up burp, fart and move to the next trough without ever contributing a thing or showing a speck of gratitude. What happens when the last trough is emptied is the question.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
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To: IbJensen

Bump for later


51 posted on 12/23/2012 7:59:29 AM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: RipSawyer

Your point is well taken. America’s decline, that is the decadence, deficits, drug use, fornication and the loss of personal accountability, occurred over a fifty year period. Obama’s ascent was no accident and reflects the values of a narrow majority in a transformed America. The restoration of virtue and an American renaissance will not occur with one or two election cycles. If it is to occur ( and it is by no means certain it will), such a transformation will take two or three generations. The best decent people can do is take care of their families and vote.


52 posted on 12/23/2012 8:01:00 AM PST by allendale
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To: IbJensen
A recent survey found 59% of Americans think the country is on the wrong track. This alone should have stopped Obama

What the author ignores while making his point is that Romney failed to convince the voters that he could do better.

Romney got fewer votes in the election than McCain did four years ago. Obama has the country in the crapper and Romany could not score as many votes as McCain who was a truly uninspiring candidate.

The trouble with Romney is that he failed to both inspire the voters that he had real solutions to the country’s problems and that Obama’s solution was wrong.

Romney did not attack Obama for his socialism and Romney did not and could not use the issue of Obama care, the pivotal issue of the campaign, because he was essentially its author.

The Republican party lost the election the day they nominated Romney because he was Obama care’s grandfather and he would not renounce his grandchild.

His repeal and replace strategy on Obama care kept the voters home in droves.

53 posted on 12/23/2012 8:07:45 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: allendale

Perfect, unfortunately.


54 posted on 12/23/2012 8:07:45 AM PST by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: allendale

There is always a price to pay for stupidity and we as a country will pay for it. You’re right; it will take years to recover from this long decline and national train wreck.


55 posted on 12/23/2012 8:08:07 AM PST by Starboard
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To: IbJensen
I saw a TV ad yesterday where a white guy was stealing from black people in the suburbs. Imagine if the reverse image was shown?
56 posted on 12/23/2012 8:09:24 AM PST by ConservativeStatement (Having an abortion is "progressive"?)
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To: IbJensen
"Consider these points. At 14.3% Black unemployment is more than double White unemployment. At 10% Hispanic unemployment is more than 2 points higher than the national average. By no measure are either of these groups better off now than they were before Obama came along."

But, to the liberal mind, a job isn't a measure of success. Obtaining 'stuff' is, and the fact is, being unemployed provides for a lot of stuff these days. Being lazy is well-rewarded in the US today, while being productive is gently punished. Of course, the left wants that punishment to be less gentle, while they want to reap the rewards of other peoples' labor.

Not much different than the democrats of 1860, always seeking to enslave others.

57 posted on 12/23/2012 8:14:11 AM PST by meyer (Proud member of the 53%.)
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To: IbJensen

We have tried to tell them (the ferals), for years (if not decades) that the govt is destroying the black family. They ignored us. Again we saying that govt is destroying the traditional American way of life, they ignored us.
Guess when the EBT cards don’t work anymore, they will still ignore us and just take what they think is theirs.
I for myself have given up hope on trying to help these people. And I have started buying more canned and dried food. Purchasing more guns and ammo. Stocking up on gasoline and the stablizer for that.
The party is almost over, I fear for our country and the good people that are left. I just hope when the smoke clears, that we can pick up the pieces and re-boot (so to say) the nation.
Only question left, when will the end start?


58 posted on 12/23/2012 8:15:33 AM PST by ktw (72 ID, Finally Retired after 25 years!)
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To: IbJensen
Top GOP Senator: “I Believe the President Is Eager to Go Over the Cliff for Political Purposes”

… Senator John Barrasso (R-WY) was on FOX News Sunday this morning with Chris Wallace. Barrasso believes Barack Obama is eager to go over the fiscal cliff:

“I believe we are (going over the fiscal cliff). And I believe the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. He senses a victory at the bottom of the cliff. I think it hurts our country and hurts our economy.”

59 posted on 12/23/2012 8:16:38 AM PST by opentalk
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To: IbJensen

Let’s be fair to feral animals.

They don’t work in packs of million within group think hate and destruction, bent on destroying the whole animal kingdom like this human pack does with civilization.

This is more like the large pack of deadly, blood lust animals who brought Stalin or Hitler to power.

We heard from some of the leaders of the pack after the death of those children in conn. They got excited. “Good!Blood...more blood! Kill whitey. Kill the second amendment, self defense people! They are a blight on utopia!”

This is the dark spirit of the left. It’s always the same. Humanity does not need to keep test driving it. If only history was recorded and taught it might be put down.
We will never know how many were sacrificed during this period to the hate, racism and envy that has arisen into power - again.


60 posted on 12/23/2012 8:17:09 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: IbJensen

Obama is just a con man, a pickpocket, a thief. And, just like all con men, he’ll skip town when the going gets tough. Con men distract you and prey upon your basic emotions. The Democrat leaders are really conning the Democrat voters. But, they con us, too. They try to scare us with socialism. Obama is just enough of a socialist to get the true believer socialists vote. He likes the high life too much to be a communist. I love getting lectured by people about communism who have never even met a real communist. Real communists are too busy trying to establish the dictatorship of the Proleteriat to ever go golfing or take vacations in Hawaii. And no communist would ever display a roll of bills to impress people. Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and the rest of the Democrat leaders don’t want to be the royalty of Ragland. And yes, folks, the dirty grifters will even have people come to conservative sites and try to scare you into thinking they might be socialists.


61 posted on 12/23/2012 8:25:23 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SeminoleCounty

The term “racism” was invented by communists. Leon Trotsky was one of the first to use it. When whites engage in favoritism toward other whites (and therefore discrimination against non-whites), it’s called “racism”. When other groups engage in favoritism, it’s called “ethnic solidarity”. When you buy into these word games, it’s called being a useful idiot.


62 posted on 12/23/2012 8:32:26 AM PST by Silver Sabre
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To: IbJensen

We have descended into savage racial and destructive politics. What these morons haven’t considered is that white people are the best fighters in the world, bar none. They are exceptional in developing weaponry and defining the best strategies and tactics in using those weapons to inflict incredible casualties. If that capability is mustered and unleashed without quarter, there will be no world for the savages to hide in or retreat to.


63 posted on 12/23/2012 8:39:06 AM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: Salman

Think Rhawanda.


64 posted on 12/23/2012 8:40:12 AM PST by DeWalt
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To: allendale; RipSawyer

What’s that old saying, “shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in three generations”? One generation to create wealth, the second generation to squander it, the third generation to start over again from scratch.


65 posted on 12/23/2012 8:41:59 AM PST by thecodont
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To: KC_Lion

Fantastic stuff here!


66 posted on 12/23/2012 8:58:46 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Time to musk up.)
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To: allendale
It all began after the cold war and the commies enacted their plan for America.

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals

Excerpts

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
67 posted on 12/23/2012 9:10:34 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: IbJensen
Neal Boortz once spoke about a psychological experiment where a group of people were found to be willing to lose money, as long as it brought down the funds of others.

I wish I could remember the exact experiment, but it reminds me of a bunch of rabid dogs tearing each other to shreds, in order to dominate others, even though there was enough food for all.

Mark

68 posted on 12/23/2012 9:26:48 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: DJ Taylor
For most of our country’s history, we’ve celebrated diversity in our population as if it were a good thing, but one look at world history will show you that no country with a diverse population of different races, languages, and religion has long survived.

While I agree with the general body of your comments, you're completely wrong that Americans have historically celebrated diversity as a good thing. We have not. While the U.S. traditionally welcomed controlled, legal immigration, the Great Seal of the United States bears the motto: "E pluribus unum" -- translated, "From the many, one."

Immigrants of an earlier era worked hard to become "American." They took night classes in English, studied American history and the Constitution, and prided themselves on becoming mainstream Americans.

The celebration of "diversity" was introduced in the 1960s and 70s as a deliberate divisive revolutionary tool wielded by Marxists like Bill Ayers and other radicals. It became dogma taught by marxists in our universities. The intent was and is to split American culture along race and class lines and set off a "proletarian" revolution to destroy capitalism. The Left has now managed to elect a half-Black radical as President and their revolution is proceeding along very predictable lines, with him using every opportunity to stir up more division and discontent.

For those not afflicted with short attention spans, a reading of the constitution of the Revolutionary Communist Party at this link should make clear their goals and methods: Revolutionary Communist Constitution

69 posted on 12/23/2012 9:27:56 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: sergeantdave

I have been expecting a civil war since the 70s, which is one reason I made the Air Force a career. I figured the best place to be during a civil war, was in the military. I still believe there will be another civil war in the future. I am reminded of the poem by Rudyard Kipling, about when the Saxon finally had enough, and did something. At the risk of being flamed, I have decided I am leaving, and I am working on getting a permanent visa, to go live where “some” Americans are still respected. I had been thinking of that for a long time, but now I have finally made the decision. If they give me the visa, I am gone.


70 posted on 12/23/2012 11:37:29 AM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: sergeantdave

I have been expecting a civil war since the 70s, which is one reason I made the Air Force a career. I figured the best place to be during a civil war, was in the military. I still believe there will be another civil war in the future. I am reminded of the poem by Rudyard Kipling, about when the Saxon finally had enough, and did something. At the risk of being flamed, I have decided I am leaving, and I am working on getting a permanent visa, to go live where “some” Americans are still respected. I had been thinking of that for a long time, but now I have finally made the decision. If they give me the visa, I am gone.


71 posted on 12/23/2012 11:37:34 AM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: sergeantdave

I have been expecting a civil war since the 70s, which is one reason I made the Air Force a career. I figured the best place to be during a civil war, was in the military. I still believe there will be another civil war in the future. I am reminded of the poem by Rudyard Kipling, about when the Saxon finally had enough, and did something. At the risk of being flamed, I have decided I am leaving, and I am working on getting a permanent visa, to go live where “some” Americans are still respected. I had been thinking of that for a long time, but now I have finally made the decision. If they give me the visa, I am gone.


72 posted on 12/23/2012 11:37:39 AM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: sergeantdave

I have been expecting a civil war since the 70s, which is one reason I made the Air Force a career. I figured the best place to be during a civil war, was in the military. I still believe there will be another civil war in the future. I am reminded of the poem by Rudyard Kipling, about when the Saxon finally had enough, and did something. At the risk of being flamed, I have decided I am leaving, and I am working on getting a permanent visa, to go live where “some” Americans are still respected. I had been thinking of that for a long time, but now I have finally made the decision. If they give me the visa, I am gone.


73 posted on 12/23/2012 11:37:45 AM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: sergeantdave

I have been expecting a civil war since the 70s, which is one reason I made the Air Force a career. I figured the best place to be during a civil war, was in the military. I still believe there will be another civil war in the future. I am reminded of the poem by Rudyard Kipling, about when the Saxon finally had enough, and did something. At the risk of being flamed, I have decided I am leaving, and I am working on getting a permanent visa, to go live where “some” Americans are still respected. I had been thinking of that for a long time, but now I have finally made the decision. If they give me the visa, I am gone.


74 posted on 12/23/2012 11:37:55 AM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: sergeantdave

I have been expecting a civil war since the 70s, which is one reason I made the Air Force a career. I figured the best place to be during a civil war, was in the military. I still believe there will be another civil war in the future. I am reminded of the poem by Rudyard Kipling, about when the Saxon finally had enough, and did something. At the risk of being flamed, I have decided I am leaving, and I am working on getting a permanent visa, to go live where “some” Americans are still respected. I had been thinking of that for a long time, but now I have finally made the decision. If they give me the visa, I am gone.


75 posted on 12/23/2012 11:38:00 AM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: sergeantdave

I have been expecting a civil war since the 70s, which is one reason I made the Air Force a career. I figured the best place to be during a civil war, was in the military. I still believe there will be another civil war in the future. I am reminded of the poem by Rudyard Kipling, about when the Saxon finally had enough, and did something. At the risk of being flamed, I have decided I am leaving, and I am working on getting a permanent visa, to go live where “some” Americans are still respected. I had been thinking of that for a long time, but now I have finally made the decision. If they give me the visa, I am gone.


76 posted on 12/23/2012 11:38:03 AM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: Mark17

What on earth happened?


77 posted on 12/23/2012 11:41:10 AM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: GOPsterinMA; DJ Taylor

78 posted on 12/23/2012 11:56:57 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: righttackle44

I believe that we have a duty to protect people from police states, and that we have a duty to adhere to God’s desire that we oppose a) government tyranny, b) abuses of power by government agents, and c) abuses of power by government agencies.

Also, that it was our destiny to oppose the scourge of national socialist Germany that created the system of camps by which the socialists worked to exterminate millions of people *whom the socialists blamed for ‘injustice’ and against whom the socialists sought revenge.*

But, we have care-less-ly agreed *enough* - in order to get along with - the “feral” animalists who are enthralled with the gray areas between

- being rational loving human beings, and
- slouching in Gomorrah (they call it hedonism)

Indeed, the “feral” nationalizing socialists have become the thought police for fascism *just as their predecessors did among the German population.*


79 posted on 12/23/2012 12:07:36 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: IbJensen; Kaslin; SunkenCiv; Clintonfatigued; smoothsailing; fieldmarshaldj; jmaroneps37; Impy; ...
Yet Blacks and Hispanics ran to the polls in an orgy of hatred and revenge for the greater society to reelect “Brother Barack”...

This is the one and only one problem I have with the posted article: the enthusiasm - if you can call it that - for Obama amongst blacks in the past election was less than in 2008. It's hard to call that an "orgy" compared to four years ago.

When you crunch the numbers obtained from the pre-election polling data overall, it's difficult to logically explain the discrepancy between the reported popular vote and the pre-election projections other than to say that there was Democrat fraud and cheating on an unprecedented scale - concentrated in the urban areas of the swing states - contrary to the "huge minority turnout" explanation which all too many pundits have been yakking about. Simply put, you can't account for the fraud and cheating when polling. That's why the polling numbers just don't add up to the reported Obama win by 3 percentage points.

Republicans can't win another national election unless and until the fraud and cheating problems in the electoral process are mitigated. Therefore it is necessary to speak out now and call for significant changes!

80 posted on 12/26/2012 10:52:42 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
Just as soon as you find out we are getting only 9% response rates to polls you have to conclude they're probably not much good anymore ~ per se.

Worse, a small group that always responds 100% of the time can seem to be 11 X as influential, and their opinion will show up as being far more widely held.

This last year Gallup Poll was asking everyone's sexual preference. The gays made sure they answered that one so they provided a nearly 100% response rate.

Gay folks, if no one else, understood quite well that it was Romney, not Obama, who was their big buddy ~ which had Romney leading Obama by about 3.0% just about the whole campaign ~ in reality their real field strength was about .35% ~ which meant Romney was behind Obama the entire campaign.

The pollsters who reported Obama in the lead had figured out early what that Gay factor built into Gallup meant ~ and backed it right out of the pocket!

So you want to reconcile the differences with a massive nationwide conspiracy?

81 posted on 12/26/2012 11:11:56 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah; All
This last year Gallup Poll was asking everyone's sexual preference. The gays made sure they answered that one so they provided a nearly 100% response rate.

I've never seen a Gallup polling report in which a gay demographic was included.

And I see no reason why gays would be responding to a poll nearly 100% of the time, whereas the general response rate, according to you, was 9%.

Furthermore, your claim that gays would be polling and voting (I'd presume) overwhelmingly for Romney defies common wisdom. My guess is the majority of their votes went to Obama, because he would be known to be one of them (ask Larry Sinclair if you doubt it) and he supported "gay marriage."

82 posted on 12/26/2012 2:43:28 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

Seriously, are you telling me you missed the business about Gallup asking sexual preference? Go to it: http://www.gallup.com/poll/158066/special-report-adults-identify-lgbt.aspx and the 9%, you’ll find that at http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/09/30/we-are-the-91-only-9-of-americans-cooperate-with-pollsters/ It’s based on a report by PEW published in May 2012. The upshot of all of this is the GBLT’s were all answering every pollster, and you and I were answering nobody at all! ‘cause we bad, eh! So, what did ‘bama do for gays? Well, he let them join the Army ~ but Romney invented GAY MARRIAGE!


83 posted on 12/26/2012 2:53:45 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: justiceseeker93

Now, a 10 minute low crawl through broken glass ~ you can do it!


84 posted on 12/26/2012 2:54:54 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: IbJensen

for later


85 posted on 12/26/2012 2:57:42 PM PST by MWestMom ("And those that cried appease, appease were hung by those they tried to please" - Horace Mann)
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To: SaraJohnson

Yes - the parallels to Hitler are fairly exact. Hitler rose to power by feeding the grievances of the German people who had been “stabbed in the back” by the allies at Versailles, the bankers (sound familiar?), the Jews and various other undesirables including Bolsheviks, trade unions (here the parallels are obviously not exact but history doesn’t have to repeat it only has to rhyme).

Basically find an identifiable ethnic or national group, appeal to their base instincts, tell them that they’ve been “stabbed in the back” by some other ethnic or national group and promise them that all will be made well again if only a certain leader is given more and more power until that power becomes essentially limitless.

Basically we’ve seen the movie before.


86 posted on 12/26/2012 3:00:04 PM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: All
Get used to it----it’s not uncommon for some in the minority community to believe that the white establishment (Republicans) uses its power to slander and destroy those who threaten the "status quo"......

Snide remarks about the “invisible and permanent powers-that-be” (Republicans) trying to take down minorities...... is a sentiment some minorities bandy about when they try to justify (what they deem) is their loser status.

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THIS KIND OF PERVERSE CORRUPT THINKING IS REMINSCENT OF THE POST-CIVIL WAR ERA----Carpetbaggers---Northern invaders into the South ----were prominent in politics until 1875, but nearly all left under pressure from the Red Shirts and White Liners -----white paramilitary organizations, then-described as "the military arm of the Democratic Party", working openly to violently overthrow Republican rule, using intimidation and assassination to turn Republicans out of office and suppress freedmen's (former slaves) voting.

The Republican sheriff of Yazoo, Mississippi, received a brief flurry of national attention when insurgent white Democrats took over the county government and forced him to flee. (WIKI)

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FREEPER ACTION MEMO In 1875, Hiram Revels, a Mississippi Republican--and the first African-American US Senator-- wrote to then-Pres Ulysses S. Grant denouncing Northern invaders into the post-Civil War south for manipulating the Black vote for personal benefit, and for keeping alive wartime hatreds. (WIKI)

We need to get someone with integrity----like Cong Allen West (not reelected)----- to write letters to his colleagues, and to the media.

Cong West needs to do the following:

(1) decry the agitation and intimidation tactics being used by these groups,

(2) expose using hatemongering for personal gain,

(3) emphasize the illegalities WRT threatening members of the US Congress,

(4) precpitate investigations into fraud and intimidation upon our electoral/legislative system by these hate-mongering groups, and,

(5) determine the scope and dimension of subversion these activities are visiting on US ntl security.

87 posted on 12/26/2012 3:10:56 PM PST by Liz
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks justiceseeker93.


88 posted on 12/26/2012 4:56:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: muawiyah; All
Seriously, are you telling me you missed the business about Gallup asking sexual preference?

Yes, I did miss the business of Gallup asking sexual preference. Thanks for your link. What I had been referring to is that I'd never seen a political preference poll subdividing the respondents by gender preference. My intuition is that those that identify as LBGT will prefer 'Rats in significantly larger percentages than the heterosexual population.

I agree with you that the 3.4% figure that Gallup got for LGBT is at least twice as large as what one would expect. But remember that the majority of the "LGBT" is most likely "B" or bisexual, especially among the women. So the % of truly "gay" or lesbian individuals is probably less than 2%.

BTW, the lefty MSM (including these pollsters) have a vested interest in overstating the percentage of gays and lesbians in the population because it increases their political clout.

89 posted on 12/26/2012 5:52:16 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
The way this all links together is that the gays had positive polls in all the states where they were losing the gay marriage referenda.

That was a real mystery to everyone, and there it is ~ response rates on polls just aren't what they used to be. You'll want to go dig up the PEW report because there's much more with it.

By looking at the response rate problem it was easy to conclude that the 3.5% gayness reported by Gallup had to be divided by 11 to know what the real rate of self-identification really was. That's about .34%, or less than 1/10 Gallup's estimate based on raw data.

The problem of a small group being able to shift poll results applies everywhere. All you need to do is make sure your group ALWAYS responds to any pollster, or returns call back numbers they all use these days. Mormons, by themselves, could have shifted the poll by simply making sure they responded as if they were 67 million people strong!

I dismiss that particular possibility since that'd given Romney a 30 point leader over Obama ~ and he never did have anything like that. What he did have was a consistent 3 to 5% lead, and that's what's in line with the GBLT response.

Another factor that could have played a part is the proliferation of cellphone numbers ~ with the rich getting more than their fair share! According to Zogby the cellphone polling problem has been overcome, but reading through his material I didn't find out where they overcame the multi-number thing. Even if the gays didn't care for Romney all that much more than they did Obama, what about the rich?

90 posted on 12/26/2012 6:08:20 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: justiceseeker93

Shuuush....I know nothing....and as a matter of fact...I never read your post....


91 posted on 12/26/2012 7:56:07 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: Popman

I don’t know when it [the finincial collapse] is going to hit, I will probably be dead by then. But I do that when it hits, it will make the Germany of the 1920s and ‘30s look like a paradise by comparison. If you are younger than 50 I feel sorry for you.I wish, my FRiend that I had some advise to offer you, but I don’t. I never thought that the United States could be overrun with fools and idiots so quick.


92 posted on 12/26/2012 8:25:17 PM PST by sport
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