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How About Banning Bullets? The Constitution Doesn't Say Anything About Those...
TBI ^ | 12-24-2012 | Henry Blodget

Posted on 12/24/2012 1:49:44 PM PST by blam

How About Banning Bullets? The Constitution Doesn't Say Anything About Those...

Henry Blodget
December 24, 2012, 1:56 PM

It's Time We Saw The Idea That Everyone Should Carry An Assault Weapon For What It Is: Nuts One of the arguments invoked by those who think we should keep assault weapons freely available in this country is that the Constitution says we have a right to own and buy them.

The Constitution actually doesn't say anything of the sort.

All the Constitution says is that we have the right to "bear arms."

And that "right to bear arms" is actually supposed to support the existence of a "well-regulated militia," an important qualifying clause in the Second Amendment that those in favor of free access to assault weapons usually ignore.

But even leaving aside the "well-regulated militia" clause, the Constitution doesn't specify what "arms" we're allowed to bear.

And we have long set limits on the type of arms we are allowed to bear, thus establishing clearly that we have the Constitutional right to do that.

For example, we're not (individually) allowed to own aircraft carriers, tanks, ballistic nuclear missiles, fighter aircraft, or attack submarines.

We're not even allowed to own fully automatic machine guns.

All of those are "arms."

And yet we have established that, despite the Second Amendment, we're not individually allowed to bear them.

So if we decided to establish that we are not individually allowed to bear semi-automatic assault rifles and pistols while still being allowed to own single-shot hunting guns, this would be perfectly in keeping with how we have interpreted our Second Amendment rights under the Constitution.

But it will still make lots of people scream that we have tromped all over the Constitution, even if we haven't.

So, how about if we limit

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KEYWORDS: banglist; bullets; giuns; guncontrol; secondamendment; youwillnotdisarmus
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To: blam

Let’s just say that there was an amendment to the Constitution... let’s call it Amendment 1.5.

“A well-schooled electorate, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and read Books, shall not be infringed.”

The left would then be able to prevent you from reading a book if you were not a registered voter (”electorate”) and could produce a high school diploma or better (”well-schooled”).


41 posted on 12/24/2012 2:26:50 PM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: blam
We're not even allowed to own fully automatic machine guns

well numbnuts...yeah, we are. you need a special fed license, but it is doable in most states.

42 posted on 12/24/2012 2:27:30 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: blam
And that "right to bear arms" is actually supposed to support the existence of a "well-regulated militia," an important qualifying clause in the Second Amendment that those in favor of free access to assault weapons usually ignore.

Happily, the Supreme Court disagreed with this clown.

43 posted on 12/24/2012 2:28:48 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
"We're not even allowed to own fully automatic machine guns"

He must mean on Manhattan island, where it's as illegal as a 32 ounce soft rink or table salt. But even on the other side of the Hudson in New Jersey you "can" be licensed to own a machine gun. True, that permission has rarely if ever been granted in recent years, but it has been in the past and the law remained on the books. The Feds just require a $200 certified check, and a few months to conduct a leisurely background investigation. Blodget should get out of Moscow-on-the-Hudson, and visit America sometime. AFAIK, most states don't prohibit machine guns, although they aren't cheap since the supply is limited as a matter of law.

44 posted on 12/24/2012 2:28:55 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

45 posted on 12/24/2012 2:30:58 PM PST by timestax (AMERICAN MEDIA= DOMESTIC ENEMY)
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To: Theoria

46 posted on 12/24/2012 2:31:30 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: blam

Bullets count as ‘arms’. We really have raised a population of ignorant idiots.


47 posted on 12/24/2012 2:32:38 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: blam

What don’t these stupid fools understand about the word “Arms” bullets are arms, as are knives, clubs, RPGs and so on.


48 posted on 12/24/2012 2:35:44 PM PST by WilliamRobert (Obama lied, people died)
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To: blam

The Constitution makes no mention of Henry Blodget, so he is obviously not protected by its provisions.


49 posted on 12/24/2012 2:37:01 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Headline almost killed it, but I read thru his crappola article, anyway. Brain dead is not a license to write in a public forum. Carp.


50 posted on 12/24/2012 2:40:07 PM PST by Carriage Hill (Have A Very Merry Christmas & A Happy New Year!)
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To: blam

Really people, we have have to find a way to peacefully separate or end up fighting it out someday. I can’t believe there’s any hope of future reconciliation with the leftists. We have two almost diametrically opposed visions for our respective nations. It ain’t gonna work.


51 posted on 12/24/2012 2:47:41 PM PST by Trod Upon (Civilian disarmament is the precursor to democide.)
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To: Hugin

“Do you really want to give that power to overwhelmingly liberal psychiatrists? They would probably determine that prepping and gun ownership is proof of being a sociopath.

People should only be locked up if they have proven by their actions to be a threat to themselves or others.”

Sociopaths and psychopaths show their tendencies since childhood, so it would not be too hard to say who fits the profile or not, notwithstanding liberal psychiatrists.

If a/an (insert your favorite designation of a mentally ill violent person here) fits the profile of a psychopath and/or sociopath through their own chosen action and/or involuntary circumstances (i.e. “born crazy”), then that person has forfeited his/her right to live in a society; that person shall be promptly removed from society.


52 posted on 12/24/2012 2:51:11 PM PST by sagar
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To: blam

Some people ( the author ) are just too stupid to be
allowed to run around loose.

There is no reason a person should not own a tank or
cannon. Now if they cause damage to their neighbor or
other citizens, THEN there is recourse to civil law
otherwise leave them alone.


53 posted on 12/24/2012 2:53:07 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: blam

Why not ban trigger fingers? F’n lefty idiots ought to be... Never mind, I’ll wait. Patiently.


54 posted on 12/24/2012 2:53:33 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: Vermont Lt

They’re not worried about whether it works or not. They just want to lay down another cobblestone in the road to serfdom.


55 posted on 12/24/2012 2:54:55 PM PST by Trod Upon (Civilian disarmament is the precursor to democide.)
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To: blam

Some people ( the author ) are just too stupid to be
allowed to run around loose.

There is no reason a person should not own a tank or
cannon. Now if they cause damage to their neighbor or
other citizens, THEN there is recourse to civil law
otherwise leave them alone.


56 posted on 12/24/2012 2:57:22 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Mastador1

There are no more slaves in America, so we can repeal the 13th Amendment.


57 posted on 12/24/2012 3:27:07 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: blam
In 1944 -1946, flamethrowers and machineguns were legal weapons in New York State-

What the hell happened to our Second Amendment Rights?

viz=

lest we ever forget the real America

"ELIZABETHTOWN

—Frank A. Stevens has received numerous souvenirs from his son, Durand, who is a Sergeant attached to the Signal Corps in the South-west Pacific. They consist of shell and woods and money; a flame thrower; a flag; a telephone, and many other items of interest."

'Essex County Republican' Mar 3, 1944, p1

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"An interesting sidelight of the event was the large display of World War II souvenirs that the veterans have collected during the past war in the many theaters of operation"

'Essex County Republican' Aug23 1946 p1

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"Deer Season Slated Oct. 20-Nov. 20;

Bar Automatic Weapons

Governor Dewey signed a bill yesterday fixing the opening of the 1946 deer season in the Adirondacks for October 20. The season will close Nov. 20.

Other bills of interest to local sportsmen signed this week include one prohibiting the use of automatic firearms in hunting.

Designed as a safeguard against the use of rapid-fire weapons brought back by overseas veterans as war souvenirs, the bill defines an automatic gun as "one which will continue to fire as long as the trigger is held back." Autoloading guns which require that the trigger be pulled for each shot are permitted, provide they contain not more than six shells.

The State Conservation Department was authorized to set open season for grouse or partridge concurrently with the season for woodcock."

'Essex County Republican'. Thurs. Apr 11 1946

Machine guns were legal in NY State only 66 years ago -

What happened?

58 posted on 12/24/2012 3:32:13 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (how did our legal rights became illegal illegally?)
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To: blam

Why do they avoid the whole point of the 2nd Amendment, which is to keep government from disarming the people. The minuteman is the very symbol of American liberty. In England and in France and Germany, they have a history of government consolidated in the monarchy or in the national state. For the English, it dates to the English Civil War. For the French to the reign of Louis XIV. For Germany to unification under the Prussian king. Cromwell put the fear of God in the English elites, so they limited the size of the Army through the Mutiny Acts,while allowing the Navy to grow to guard an expanding trade. Where the Army was essentially a colonial army, and basically a core depending on colonial allies and mercenaries, as in their attempt to suppress our rebellion against the king. We adopted a similar policy, which is has been to depend primarily on the states and their militias. It was for this reason that in 1861, Lincoln had an army that consisted of 26,000 men, scattered across the country, and like every President before him to call upon the states for volunteers.


59 posted on 12/24/2012 3:43:11 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: blam

Why do they avoid the whole point of the 2nd Amendment, which is to keep government from disarming the people. The minuteman is the very symbol of American liberty. In England and in France and Germany, they have a history of government consolidated in the monarchy or in the national state. For the English, it dates to the English Civil War. For the French to the reign of Louis XIV. For Germany to unification under the Prussian king. Cromwell put the fear of God in the English elites, so they limited the size of the Army through the Mutiny Acts,while allowing the Navy to grow to guard an expanding trade. Where the Army was essentially a colonial army, and basically a core depending on colonial allies and mercenaries, as in their attempt to suppress our rebellion against the king. We adopted a similar policy, which is has been to depend primarily on the states and their militias. It was for this reason that in 1861, Lincoln had an army that consisted of 26,000 men, scattered across the country, and like every President before him to call upon the states for volunteers. The Confederate Army was constituted the very same way.


60 posted on 12/24/2012 3:47:31 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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