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New York newspaper faces backlash after publishing map of gun permit holders
fox news ^ | 12/25/12 | staff

Posted on 12/25/2012 10:04:27 AM PST by Nachum

A local New York newspaper is drawing the ire of its readers after publishing an interactive map that shows the names and addresses of thousands of residents who have handgun permits.

The online map was published by The Journal News along with an article under the headline: "The gun owner next door: What you don't know about the weapons in your neighborhood."

The newspaper obtained, and then published, the names and addresses of pistol permit holders in Westchester and Rockland counties through a Freedom of Information Act request.

The article, in explaining the decision to publish the information, pointed to the school massacre in nearby Newtown, Conn., and the concerns of some residents about which of their neighbors might have firearms.

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Gun dealers everywhere are thanking this paper for the new business that the paper will bring them....

By the way, NRA memberships are really inexpensive... all of you people in Westchester and Rockland who are now about to be new gun owners ought to think about joining.

1 posted on 12/25/2012 10:04:35 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

I wonder if they ever published the names and addresses of those in those neighborhoods who killed children by abortion.


2 posted on 12/25/2012 10:07:26 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (U.S. elections have become nothing but another cheap ripoff of American Idol.)
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To: Nachum

Has anyone considered publishing the names and addresses of this so-caled newspaper’s employees?


3 posted on 12/25/2012 10:08:48 AM PST by null and void (Going Galt: The won't of the people)
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To: Nachum

Wondering how many on that list are on the run or hiding from an abusive family member or ex? Now they must worry about being discovered because of this, “newspaper.”


5 posted on 12/25/2012 10:13:49 AM PST by redreno (Americans don't go Gault. Americans go Postal.)
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To: Nachum

Can’t we publish the names and addresses of journalists?


7 posted on 12/25/2012 10:14:37 AM PST by samadams2000
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To: null and void

Anonymous did, but then determined that they weren’t Republicans and turned their backs.


8 posted on 12/25/2012 10:14:54 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Nachum

I went to those maps. The second at least (Rockland county). I’ve been scrolling out and those DOTS are showing up across multiple states. Gannet is going to be in a lot more hot water than in just those two counties.

http://www.lohud.com/interactive/article/20121223/NEWS01/121221011/Map-Where-gun-permits-your-neighborhood


10 posted on 12/25/2012 10:15:30 AM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: Nachum

Yeh, I suppose it identifies those that aren’t armed - making them an easy target for home robberies.


11 posted on 12/25/2012 10:16:35 AM PST by marsh2
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To: Nachum

I’m up there. I’m so livid right now.


12 posted on 12/25/2012 10:16:45 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: null and void

In the comments section of the paper, people actually did........


13 posted on 12/25/2012 10:18:21 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: Nachum

Here it is:

http://www.lohud.com/article/20121224/NEWS04/312240045/The-gun-owner-next-door-What-you-don-t-know-about-weapons-your-neighborhood?nclick_check=1

And the comments section:

http://www.lohud.com/comments/article/20121224/NEWS04/312240045/The-gun-owner-next-door-What-you-don-t-know-about-weapons-your-neighborhood


14 posted on 12/25/2012 10:19:08 AM PST by bryan999
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To: SueRae

oops, ya beat me to it!


15 posted on 12/25/2012 10:20:08 AM PST by bryan999
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To: GlockThe Vote

I thought you might be. I went to the second map (Rockland County) and scrolled out from there. They’ve outed people across several states!


16 posted on 12/25/2012 10:20:23 AM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: Nachum

So this map can be used by criminals to target homes without guns too?


17 posted on 12/25/2012 10:20:26 AM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: Nachum

The intent was to whip up gun hysteria. It failed. Got to hand it to the yankees though....some aren’t so against the 2nd amendment.


18 posted on 12/25/2012 10:21:51 AM PST by Dallas59 (America died a little bit more on 11/6/2012)
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To: Nachum

The paper also inadvertently gives out more info. It tells burglars, rapists, etc., people who DON’T have a gun. If someone wants to break into a house, all they have to do is check the papers list to see if the house owners have a gun.


19 posted on 12/25/2012 10:22:45 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: SueRae

A few years ago Gannett papers printed the salaries of all public employees in their respective areas. Not just one paper, but a bunch of them did so.

Given that pattern, I would assume that more Gannett papers will be FOIAing gun permit information and publishing it. Heck, USA Today will probably publish a national database that one can search.


20 posted on 12/25/2012 10:23:26 AM PST by Numbers Guy
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To: Nachum
"The newspaper separately noted that the reporter on the story "owns a Smith & Wesson 686 .357 Magnum and has had a residence permit in New York City for that weapon since February 2011."

Yes, but where does that employee live?
21 posted on 12/25/2012 10:24:47 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Nachum

The left always overreaches.

ALWAYS.

And the hell they unleash is not going to be a Marxian fantasy. More like revolutionary France. Except worse. For them.


22 posted on 12/25/2012 10:24:55 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Nachum

Firearms are expensive, and highly desirable by criminals.

I wonder if this “newspaper” has considered publishing the names and addresses of coin collectors, stamp collectors, or the owners of any high value jewelery?

On the other hand, I suppose that any criminals wanting to do “home invasion” style robberies would look on this as a good thing, informing them of homes NOT to target.

These sanctimonious “newspaper” publishers are scum. If they’re willing to call any gun owner a possible murderer, are they also going to call any woman a possible prostitute?

Mark


23 posted on 12/25/2012 10:25:30 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: chessplayer

At least for the people living in that same state. Those living in different states only have to answer to their home states concerning means of home self defense. The “permits” for New Jersey would only apply whilst actually in New Jersey


24 posted on 12/25/2012 10:25:39 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: null and void
Has anyone considered publishing the names and addresses of this so-caled newspaper’s employees?

Already done, names, addresses, pics, families, personal information, all out there. Merry Christmas, commies.

25 posted on 12/25/2012 10:25:48 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Kartographer

Journal News President:
-—Janet Hasson, 3 Gate House Lane Mamaroneck, NY 10534 (914) 694.5204

Editors:
-—Cyndee Royle, 1133 Westchester Ave., Suite N110, White Plains, NY 10604, 914-694-9300
—Nancy Cutler 9 Woodwind Ln, Spring Valley, NY. (845) 354 3485

Parent company of The Journal News Gannett
-——CEO Gracia C Martore 728 Springvale Rd Great Falls, VA 22066 (703) 759 5954

The reporter on the story is:
—Dwight R Worley 23006 139 Ave Springfield Gardens, NY 11413 (718) 527 0832

Copy and re-post this. Don’t let it get buried! Save a copy for when they re-set the comments.


26 posted on 12/25/2012 10:26:01 AM PST by null and void (Going Galt: The won't of the people)
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To: Nachum

“The gun owner next door: What you don’t know about the weapons in your neighborhood.”

And, you still don’t. The guns about which you should be worried are NOT the ones on this map. Rather, they are the ones that are in the hands of convicted felons, evil poeple bent on murder and mayhem, and the like. They generally do not comply with laws and statutes. It limits their options.


27 posted on 12/25/2012 10:26:26 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Still seeking change.)
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To: null and void

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2972121/posts


28 posted on 12/25/2012 10:27:04 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Navy Patriot

Source please?


29 posted on 12/25/2012 10:27:04 AM PST by null and void (Going Galt: The won't of the people)
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To: Nachum
Happily Fox at least, picked this up.
Drudge doesnt seem to think its important.
Nor does he want to link to NY (D) Nadlers comment about the 'state having a monopoly on legitimite violence'

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/nadler-state-ought-have-monopoly-legitimate-violence
30 posted on 12/25/2012 10:27:58 AM PST by 45semi (Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from existential evil.-Packwoods Law)
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To: null and void

Some bloggers have already done so. A link to their page was in one of the earlier threads. Might already be in this one.


31 posted on 12/25/2012 10:29:19 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: PubliusMM

Yup, the gun I know, owned by the neighbor I know, virtually always isn’t a worry at all.

A hundred or so people ought to all write in separately to the paper’s editor and say “Thank you... I mean the gun owners, of course!”


32 posted on 12/25/2012 10:29:59 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Nachum
How about posting a map of all women who have had abortions?
33 posted on 12/25/2012 10:30:08 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism." --Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Nachum
Did the list include judges, cops, local bureaucrats???

Impeach the kenyan or secession.


34 posted on 12/25/2012 10:33:00 AM PST by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: Nachum

35 posted on 12/25/2012 10:33:41 AM PST by Dallas59 (America died a little bit more on 11/6/2012)
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To: null and void
Someone did for that b***h of a publisher and the reporter: http://christopherfountain.wordpress.com/2012/12/24/sauce-for-the-goose/
36 posted on 12/25/2012 10:34:10 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Dallas59
The intent was to whip up gun hysteria. It failed. Got to hand it to the yankees though....some aren’t so against the 2nd amendment.

Yep - many of the neighbors may have already known who had some weapons. Others knew the people and had no reason to feel threatened. I'll bet more of those who don't own weapons will decide to obtain them than the number who will be "up in arms" about those who already have them.

37 posted on 12/25/2012 10:35:20 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: Nachum
Giving out the names of the Good Guys with guns.
They are in HOT WATER now. . . . . . . .
Hope they have a large liability policy. This might be E & O.
Errors and Omissions. . . .
38 posted on 12/25/2012 10:39:05 AM PST by DeaconRed (How did Hitler accomplish what he did? He started with disarming the German people first.)
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To: null and void
Source please?

Here's the start of it, follow the links for yourself.

39 posted on 12/25/2012 10:41:55 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Nachum; ADemocratNoMore; advertising guy; aft_lizard; AJMaXx; Alice in Wonderland; ...

WOW!

FYI pings.


40 posted on 12/25/2012 10:43:32 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave
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To: Nachum; ADemocratNoMore; advertising guy; aft_lizard; AJMaXx; Alice in Wonderland; ...

WOW!

FYI pings.


41 posted on 12/25/2012 10:44:34 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave
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Dallas59 wrote:

"The intent was to whip up gun hysteria. It failed. Got to hand it to the yankees though....some aren’t so against the 2nd amendment."

Exactly. As much as the media and the liberals would like everyone to think, this ISN'T a Democrat vs Republican or Left vs Right issue. Many, many left and Democrat types own, carry, and use all sorts of firearms - for all sorts of reasons including self defense.

This recent push on gun control could backfire on the advocates very quickly. I think there will be a level of hysteria promoted by the press in an attempt to change minds, but in the end, the legislation that passes will be greatly watered down.

...at least I'm hoping that will be the case.

42 posted on 12/25/2012 10:46:15 AM PST by Magnatron
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To: Nachum

Now THERE’s a great use of gun registration information!!

Aren;t you glad you complied?

On a side note... I bet these homes are side-stepped by criminals looking for easy targets


43 posted on 12/25/2012 10:46:30 AM PST by Mr. K (There are lies, dammed lies, statistics, and democrap talking points.)
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To: null and void

Thanks for the info. I have just posted this to all forums that I frequent.


44 posted on 12/25/2012 10:50:01 AM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: bryan999

I must be doing something wrong. I cannot see the comments.


45 posted on 12/25/2012 10:55:44 AM PST by ozaukeemom (USA-it was nice while it lasted)
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To: Nachum

Let’s start a class action lawsuit. Sue the a$$ off the paper.

Also, having a permit doesn’t mean someone has a gun.

Sue their a$$e$ off.


46 posted on 12/25/2012 10:55:54 AM PST by I want the USA back (NRA Life member.)
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To: Nachum

By the way, NRA memberships are really inexpensive... all of you people in Westchester and Rockland who are now about to be new gun owners ought to think about joining.

In the interest of fairness, reality, and price isn’t everything, let us ask a question.

What hunting and gun safety organization has been in being, and in support of every single heinous, anti-individual rights, anti-gun, anti-second amendment bill that has ever been signed into law by the Congress and President of the USA since NFA 1934.

Folks, it doesn’t take a genius or a rocket scientist to come up with the answer, and no amount of fluff can cover up the facts. The NRA is NOT and NEVER has been the protector of gun rights in this country. If anything they are part and parcel of the problem. You might begin to recognize some repentance if they ever stop giving democrat elected officials a rating and the time of day.

Just my humble opinion, based in fact.


47 posted on 12/25/2012 10:56:41 AM PST by wita
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To: Nachum

Prospective burglers are thanking the newspaper, as they now know which homes to avoid (armed citizens) and which might be easy ‘pickens’ in the middle of the nights.


48 posted on 12/25/2012 10:57:41 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Nachum

Here is a safe prediction - this move has shifted the odds towards greater rates of illegal ownership.
Basis of this forecast: Gun Restrictions Have Always Bred Defiance, Black Markets - J.D. Tuccille
http://reason.com/archives/2012/12/22/gun-restrictions-have-always-bred-defian/print
and this study referenced in the above posting:
GUN CONTROL AND THE REDUCTION OF THE NUMBER OF ARMS
http://www.anarma.org/descargas/documentacion/Gun-control-and-reduction-FCsaszar.pdf

The odds will shift even further in the wake of Governor Cuomo’s recent comments as otherwise law-abiding residents are reminded of previous use of registration records to confiscate the registered weapons in NY and CA:

“Maybe gun owners are getting more ornery as time goes on. Or perhaps they’re just getting more distrustful of the authorities. In fact, American gun owners may have good reason to be skeptical of common assurances that registration records won’t ever be used for anything more than tracking lost and stolen weapons. In New York City, the center of agitation for tighter U.S. gun laws, the registration system for long guns such as rifles and shotguns, established in 1967, was used in the 1990s to confiscate previously lawful semiautomatic rifles.”

“California state officials pulled a similar stunt, though with a shorter grace period. After the registration of so-called “assault weapons” subsequent to the passage of the Roberti-Roos Assault Weapons Control Act of 1989, Attorney General Dan Lungren reversed official position in 1997 to declare one of the rifles considered legal and subject to registration just a few years earlier—the SKS Sporter—to be illegal. Owners who had complied with the law were forced to surrender their weapons or transfer them out of state.”


49 posted on 12/25/2012 11:02:35 AM PST by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: samadams2000
*** Can’t we publish the names and addresses of journalists? ***

Sure can, for any of them that own a house. And in that small town I doubt many are renting Condo's or fancy apartments like if in NYC.

Thanks to Property Taxes, which is Public Information :-) - you can search a County's Treasurer or Assessor's website for any property, the taxes owed or paid, and the Homeowners name.

I can search my neighbors, and FReepers have searched the Crook County Assessor's office for Rahm Emanuel's house, OBAMA's and his TERRORIST Buddy -- Bill Ayers, and posted their addresses and property tax amount.

So these jackwagons at this hick news rag started something they won't like.

50 posted on 12/25/2012 11:03:11 AM PST by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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