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The central socialist government sets a fine example for Americans by condoning and encouraging abortions thereby diminishing the respect for life. The inconvenience of child rearing is taken care of by the liberals in both parties who continually harp and campaign on 'the woman's right to choose.'

Godless America is well-versed in the "legitimate violence" against innocents in what should be their safest place of refuge, their mothers' wombs since Roe v. Wade with the death toll upwards of 50,000,000 and counting!

1 posted on 12/27/2012 4:01:27 AM PST by IbJensen
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Power comes from the muzzle of a gun.

He wants the Government to have ALL the power. Thought he was American.


27 posted on 12/27/2012 5:23:14 AM PST by FrogMom (Chicken Little is coming, and he's right!)
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What’s “legitimate” violence? Would that include the Crips & Bloods and Latin Kings?


29 posted on 12/27/2012 5:40:24 AM PST by jersey117
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Nadler added. "One of the definitions of a nation state is that the state has a monopoly on legitimate violence. [...]"

Does anyone know where in our Constitution I can find this interesting definition which Nadler cites? Or is it maybe a quote from Alexander Hamilton, Thomas Jefferson, or Thomas Paine? Is Nadler claiming that, per definitionem the United States does not fulfill the criteria for being a nation-state? Well, what are we then?

To me, it is amazing how these politicians can open their mouths before thinking through what they are going to say, and considering whether it conforms with Aristotelian logic.

Regards,

30 posted on 12/27/2012 5:42:40 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) said only the federal government should have “high-capacity” gun magazines and that the “state ought to have a monopoly on legitimate violence.”

TREASON. Pre-meditated agitprop by a politician against the citizens of the U.S.A. by subversion of the constitution.

--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

DEPOPULATE totalitarians from the body politic.

31 posted on 12/27/2012 5:43:24 AM PST by PGalt
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Other members of Nadler’s socialist/totalitarian collective operating in our house...here...

http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/caucus-members/

Their proposal...here...

http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/resolution-on-preventing-gun-violence/

DEFUND/DISMANTLE domestic socialist collectives operating as agents of “government”.

—That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

DEPOPULATE socialists/totalitarians from the body politic.

live - free - republic


33 posted on 12/27/2012 5:52:50 AM PST by PGalt
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Nadler's beliefs regarding violence are entirely German and Eastern European. These are not in the American tradition.

Just like to say the Nazis eventually used those beliefs to murder the Jews.

That makes Nadler's arguments just so much garbage ~ the man has a diseased mind. He should be locked up for his own good.

34 posted on 12/27/2012 5:57:16 AM PST by muawiyah
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This “state monopoly on legitimate violence” business is straight out of Prussian political theory of the 19th century. Remember, they invented the modern nation-state. They also invented government-run schools.


35 posted on 12/27/2012 5:58:43 AM PST by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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The 2nd Amendment is there to protect us against people like Nadler.


37 posted on 12/27/2012 6:04:09 AM PST by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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Lexington & Concord: those who do not learn from history are bound to repeat it.
38 posted on 12/27/2012 6:10:43 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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A government is only as moral and upright as the people who run it on a day-to-day basis. Unfortunately, our government seems replete with evil people and tyranny has resulted. Our government no longer has the moral standing to create law, let alone define “legitimate violence”. An adequately armed public is the only check-and-balance left on the government because they have corrupted politics and the system for conducting elections. We are down to our LAST line of defense against an evil government. We simply cannot allow them to neutralize an armed citizenry as well or most of us will become slaves to the government. Live free or die. . . .


40 posted on 12/27/2012 6:43:52 AM PST by RatRipper (Self-centeredness, greed, envy, deceit and lawless corruption has killed this once great nation.)
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Did this turd have his stomach removed or something? Last picture I saw of him his neck was wider than my waist, and his girth would not have fit in my two-and-a-half car garage.


43 posted on 12/27/2012 7:04:47 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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This worthless Nazi piece-of-crap Nadler and Adam Lanza should both have been sharing a padded room at a mental institution. They’re both bat $hit crazy.


45 posted on 12/27/2012 7:22:36 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 6, 2012.....A day that will live in infamy!)
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Too bad there was no "state" in Germany from 1933 to 1945. Just imagine if there had been, everything would have turned out all right! [/sarcasm]

PS: I once read a letter from the editor in a local newspaper in which some idiot claimed there would have been no Holocaust if Germany had had gun control! True story!!!

47 posted on 12/27/2012 7:54:13 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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‘The State Ought to Have a Monopoly on Legitimate Violence’

Yup.. It worked so well at Waco, Ruby Ridge..


52 posted on 12/27/2012 9:53:13 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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Nadler is a living example of the need for “spoon control”.


53 posted on 12/27/2012 10:46:54 AM PST by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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Thus speaks Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY) and mouthpiece for fascists, socialists, and Marxists everywhere. How very totalitarian of you, sir!

Bless his little heart. Come and get them, sweet pants; we've prepared a lead enriched diet for you and your thugs.

54 posted on 12/27/2012 10:59:16 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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Everyone to Nadler’s house for nachos and cheese!


56 posted on 12/27/2012 12:59:38 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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Is there a difference between "legitimate violence" and "legitimate rape" that I'm failing to see?

-PJ

58 posted on 12/27/2012 1:03:01 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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