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Arizona Attorney General proposes arming school employees
Fox News ^ | December 27, 2012 | FoxNews

Posted on 12/27/2012 12:32:13 PM PST by Ron C.

Arizona's Attorney General has proposed a program to train one person at each school in the state to use a firearm in an effort to minimize the risk of a repetition of the massacre in Newtown, Connecticut.

Tom Horne introduced a proposal Wednesday that would allow a school principal or designated staff member to have access to a secured firearm on school grounds and receive training in the use of firearms and emergency management.

The attorney general said in a press release that at least three Arizona sheriffs have endorsed the proposal and other sheriffs are considering participating in the program.

Horne said the state's budget constraints resulted in the legislature reducing funding for school resource officers assigned to schools throughout the state. The ideal situation, he said, would be to have an armed officer in each school.

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To: M-cubed

I agree.


41 posted on 12/28/2012 8:27:12 AM PST by DoughtyOne (How about a waiting period for putting crazies out on the streets, say a million years or so.)
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To: Ron C.
A good idea except that the vast majority of those limp wrist liberal (educators?) would wet their Depends if shown even a picture of a weapon.
42 posted on 12/28/2012 3:26:31 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Thanks for your post (sorry so slow in reading, been way too busy to come to FR of late.)

That's quite a story, and the same could work for many schools, but God help us, school administrations today are mostly led by union goons of the left that do not want what is best for the students at the schools... they just want money, lots of it, with little to nothing required of them.

43 posted on 12/28/2012 7:54:54 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: Carry_Okie
"...to get it REALLY right..."

Yes indeed - hiring military vets, particularly those who continue with their marksmanship, own their guns and use them frequently would be among the best schools could hire!!

44 posted on 12/28/2012 8:01:00 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: Don Corleone

LOL - Tx Don, for the funniest post on the thread! Sad that we have such near-useless liberals dominating education these days.


45 posted on 12/28/2012 8:03:18 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.

The most cost effective method for providing school safety would be to provide a few tables and chairs, free Dunkin’ Donuts and coffee to the local police force on staggered coffee breaks.


46 posted on 12/28/2012 8:53:31 PM PST by Enough is ENOUGH
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To: DoughtyOne; All

“Our staff is armed, trained, and determined to use lethal force in defense of our students!”

I would like to add that it should be a written policy within the district that those teachers who are certified and armed while on the job at the school where they work, and functions outside the premises with their students, should be kept extremely confidential, and under penalty of termination, if even a question (or opposition) is raised by any staff member no matter what their opinion, or reason for the inquiry...

Loose lips sink ships...And gets people and kids killed!!!

The reason being is tht unless you understand the culture of teachers today,they are not like what some of us are used to...I know, my wife is one, and some the folks she works with are a bunch of nervous ninnies right now, and it is a vicious, vindictive community with factions (groups) that if even the question is asked who are these armed teachers in their midst, the armed teachers WILL be ostrasized, scrutinized in a very prejudical manner...

I believe the only ones that need to know, are the teachers themselves, and administrators who are armed...So that they do not take shots at one another in a crisis situation...The Principal of the school, and the district administration who keep the names and certifications secret from the rest of the district...

No one (other teachers and administrators) needs to converse, ask, or assume, under penalty of termination, any adult who might be under those parameters of this effort to secure and make these schools a HARD target to even the most deranged idiot who contemplates such an abhorant act...

My wife DOES have a current Texas CHL, and one of her buddies there at the school where she works has asked me to get her up to speed on that certification at the start of this next year...

The state of Texas needs to allow all teachers and school officials who choose to accomplish this task, a no charge permit (CHL) or at least a severely reduced fee to allow this to not be a block to those that want to do this...

I believe Gov. Perry would be amiable to this idea, as he has stated that teachers should be armed while on the clock at their schools...

I believe that if there are teachers opposed to this idea, then they are free to go and work someplace where they believe no one is armed, and continue with their careers...

Just my opinion...


47 posted on 12/29/2012 12:04:23 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Ron C.

Things haven’t changed much over many years. Even when administrators weren’t unionized, circumstances conspired to often make them grasping.

In some states, school administrators are still seen as patronage jobs. In others, radicals populate local school boards and seen them as their puppets. States give money to schools based on how many students attend, so principals are discouraged from suspending or expelling students.

If a teacher or a student really fouls up, the principal gets in trouble. Holding back students with bad grades can result in adults in high school with kids, and a 17 year old high school freshman is a disaster in the making. So it is to their benefit to promote them even if illiterate.

Nationwide, there is a perpetual shortage of principals, because it is such an onerous and unrewarding job.


48 posted on 12/29/2012 6:16:43 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: stevie_d_64

I agree with your post, with one reservation.

There are good teachers out there who don’t have the mental makeup to be a good CCW carrier. I’m not convinced they should be fired for it.

That doesn’t mean there isn’t a case to be made against my take on it.

These kids are placed under the care of the school administrators and teachers, who (it could be argued) should be prepared to defend them against attack. That being said, not all parents are armed either when their kids are under their care.

I do firmly believe any teacher that is moved to do so, should carry. I also believe the administrators should urge their teachers who are comfortable doing so, to do so.


49 posted on 12/29/2012 9:19:59 AM PST by DoughtyOne (How about a waiting period for putting crazies out on the streets, say a million years or so.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Things sure have changed since I was in grade school. For some dire infraction that I don't remember, I wound up in the principles office, he took out a BIG paddle and I got four or five hard blows on my butt - THAT I remember all to well.

The principle called my foster parents and after I got home, I got another whipping that was far worse. Needless to say, I didn't dare do anything that would land me in that position again.

The main problem with parents today is that they don't support corporal punishment in schools - and their kids aren't disciplined at home. But worse than that school teachers and administrators rarely enforce discipline if at all. Hence, we've raised two generations of hooligans, thieves, robbers, liars and rapists. Sad.

50 posted on 12/29/2012 2:00:37 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: Enough is ENOUGH

LOL - sounds like a good plan, but free coffee for law enforcement officers is commonly available in many restaurants where cute waitresses are far more attractive than the view is at most schools. 8^)


51 posted on 12/29/2012 2:05:49 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.

Corporal punishment left the schools when litigation entered the picture. Even going back as far as the 1930s, there were some parents who “shopped” their wicked children to schools, knowing they would get corporal punishment, and then the parent would sue.

I heard this from an old man who had been a young principal at the time. Given a heads up about this woman and her vicious little brat, when the boy got into a third floor classroom not his own, and threw its pet hamsters out the window, the principal did not touch the boy.

Instead he rescheduled him, so that as a third grader he would take recess with the fifth graders. And they had no tolerance for his antics and whupped him. Then when his mother showed up and threatened a lawsuit, he noted that the school was legally blameless, but if she wanted to, she could sue the parents of the “river rat” (PWT) kids who beat her son.

Knowing there was no money in that, she and her son moved to the next town, where the principal informed that town’s school principal what was on the way.


52 posted on 12/29/2012 2:15:11 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: DoughtyOne

I agree...Anyone who wishes to do so, should do it...Without any restrictions...

My concern was the exranious personel at these schools who absolutely may not agree with us, will do what they can to sabotage the effort, one of which would be to point out those, if they somehow find out who they are, those who are carrying, and they will make that information public knowledge without ANY thought to the ramifications in doing so...

So that is why I believe there should be a severe enough punishment (in place,, whether you believe in the “plan” or not) and well understood by ALL) to take the wind out of the negative nancy sails before they get a chance to do so...

Time to turn the tables on these ill-informed and obstructionists...The lives of many hang in the balance...


53 posted on 12/29/2012 6:16:01 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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